IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Thursday, 2012-05-31

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rzs19hmm, the kernel ignores swappiness, is this a known bug, or i'm doing something wrong? swappiness is set to 10, so it should only start to swap, when 10% are left.12:32
rzs19per default it is at 100% and i don't think its good for the flash12:32
tadzikI have it set to 0 on my pc and the kernel ignores it as well12:32
rzs19but why?12:33
tadzikno eye deer12:33
rzs19and which kernel version?12:33
tadzikany version I ever tried, 3.2.0 included12:33
tadzikI suppose it knows better than me anyway12:33
rzs19yeah but swapping on flash, i don't thin kits good for the lifetime.12:34
rzs19and why i should neeed a big disk cache on a handy?12:34
amiconnThe N900 is quite short on RAM12:34
* amiconn experienced several OOM kills already12:35
rzs19i know 256, but it should be enough.12:35
amiconn"640 KB RAM should be enough for everybody" ;)12:36
rzs19:D12:36
rzs19i wish there would be a more lightweight version of maemo12:37
rzs19no fancy effects12:37
rzs19well... the xterm is all i need ;D12:38
rzs19after my secondary n900 will be there, i can play a little with the gui12:41
rzs19and the services and whatever :)12:41
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kent_autisticarcean: ping14:42
arceankent_autistic, pong14:43
kent_autisticany eta to your task launcher with folders?14:44
arceanunfortunately no14:45
arceanmaybe in july there'll be a testing release :P14:46
arceani'm busy right now, as i'll have to defend my thesis soon. Which means a lot of work :)14:47
kent_autisticjuly!?!?! the next release of testing is on july!?!? why so long14:47
kent_autisticoh goodluck then14:47
arceanmost of the needed stuff is already in place, the biggest challange will be to adopt gui to new functions14:50
arceanwhich has to be done in 'hildon' way ;)14:51
merlin1991arcean:  "defend your thesis" ?14:52
arceanyeah :/14:53
arceanit's about some math stuff and harmattan :D14:54
merlin1991rofl14:54
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merlin1991freemangordon: ping15:13
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freemangordonmerlin1991, ping15:48
merlin1991could you upload the gcc sources you used to build the gcc and libstc++ to the develdebs folder?15:49
merlin1991also I jsut finished packing the lib15:49
merlin1991wasn't easy :D15:50
freemangordonmerlin1991, it is gcc4.6.2 release from gcc site15:51
merlin1991gimme the full link and I'll just wget it on the server15:51
freemangordonjust a second15:51
merlin1991thanks to gpl we can't simply say get it over there :/15:51
freemangordonactually we can15:51
freemangordonAFAIK15:52
merlin1991not really15:52
merlin1991gpl states that *we* have to provide the source15:52
freemangordonif requested :)15:52
merlin1991true :D15:52
merlin1991anyway better be on the safe side :)15:52
freemangordonso if someone request it, we can give him the link15:52
merlin1991uh oh15:53
merlin1991I just checked what you did with the qt version number15:53
freemangordonadd -thumb015:54
freemangordonany problem?15:54
merlin1991yea so when -testing does a cssu7 this goes over the -thumb015:54
freemangordonnah15:54
merlin1991oh yes it does :D15:55
freemangordoni've already tried that with h-d15:55
freemangordonadding -thumbX and after that increasing the version should work15:55
freemangordonI think dpkg is smart enough15:55
freemangordonBTW if -testing goes cssu7, it is better those having thumb-compiled to wait for cssu7-thumb0 before upgrading ;)15:56
merlin1991you can never trust the user ;)15:57
merlin1991remember how many people suggest to use apt-get upgrade on tmo15:57
freemangordonmerlin, either ways we are safe15:57
merlin1991and something+cssu5 is > than something+cssu4-thumx for dpkg15:57
merlin1991yeah sure the debs from -testing should still work15:58
freemangordonmerlin1991, exactly15:58
merlin1991though you'll have odd results regarding "is it really thumb" and "what keeps happening to my rootfs"15:58
freemangordonthat way thumb users will receive latest -testing (even ARM-only compiled) while I am preparing -thumb version15:58
merlin1991on the other hand you'll probably update more often than -testing :D15:59
freemangordonthere is NP with it, as only thumb-compiled Qt is on rootfs, master is on /opt15:59
freemangordonyeah, maybe15:59
merlin1991hm I wander that to use for the mp version15:59
freemangordonhmm, the rate should be the same as for -devel15:59
merlin1991*wonder*16:00
freemangordonthe "-thumb0" suffix16:00
merlin1991makes sense16:00
freemangordonor only -thumb16:00
merlin1991yeah only -thumb16:01
merlin1991afaik mag pushed an update to -testing yesterday16:01
merlin1991freemangordon: which packages did you compile for thumb already?16:03
merlin1991well actually, just give me the versions + package names you currently have thumb ready16:07
merlin1991so I can do the mp16:07
freemangordonmerlin1991, isn't it easy to just get Packages.gz from the repo?16:08
freemangordon*easier16:08
freemangordonas I don't have su a list16:08
freemangordon*such16:08
merlin1991dang you should keep such a list in the future :D16:09
freemangordonfor the future I won't ask you tu update mp packages, just this time16:09
freemangordon:)16:09
freemangordonaaah, merlin1991, wait16:10
freemangordonQt depends on libstdc++ 4.2.1, should depend on 4.6.2 or whatever the lib package version is16:11
Raimu"what keeps happening to my rootfs" :D16:11
merlin1991shit16:11
freemangordonYeah, I will have to rebuild it16:12
merlin19914.6.2+cssu016:12
merlin1991is the libstdc++ version16:12
freemangordonthe package is in the repo?16:12
merlin1991not yet16:12
freemangordonpush it, as otherwise I won't be able to test that all dependencies are in place16:13
merlin1991on my way16:13
merlin1991freemangordon: should be there16:16
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freemangordonok, thanks16:18
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