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| rzs19 | hmm, the kernel ignores swappiness, is this a known bug, or i'm doing something wrong? swappiness is set to 10, so it should only start to swap, when 10% are left. | 12:32 | 
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| rzs19 | per default it is at 100% and i don't think its good for the flash | 12:32 | 
| tadzik | I have it set to 0 on my pc and the kernel ignores it as well | 12:32 | 
| rzs19 | but why? | 12:33 | 
| tadzik | no eye deer | 12:33 | 
| rzs19 | and which kernel version? | 12:33 | 
| tadzik | any version I ever tried, 3.2.0 included | 12:33 | 
| tadzik | I suppose it knows better than me anyway | 12:33 | 
| rzs19 | yeah but swapping on flash, i don't thin kits good for the lifetime. | 12:34 | 
| rzs19 | and why i should neeed a big disk cache on a handy? | 12:34 | 
| amiconn | The N900 is quite short on RAM | 12:34 | 
| * amiconn experienced several OOM kills already | 12:35 | |
| rzs19 | i know 256, but it should be enough. | 12:35 | 
| amiconn | "640 KB RAM should be enough for everybody" ;) | 12:36 | 
| rzs19 | :D | 12:36 | 
| rzs19 | i wish there would be a more lightweight version of maemo | 12:37 | 
| rzs19 | no fancy effects | 12:37 | 
| rzs19 | well... the xterm is all i need ;D | 12:38 | 
| rzs19 | after my secondary n900 will be there, i can play a little with the gui | 12:41 | 
| rzs19 | and the services and whatever :) | 12:41 | 
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| kent_autistic | arcean: ping | 14:42 | 
| arcean | kent_autistic, pong | 14:43 | 
| kent_autistic | any eta to your task launcher with folders? | 14:44 | 
| arcean | unfortunately no | 14:45 | 
| arcean | maybe in july there'll be a testing release :P | 14:46 | 
| arcean | i'm busy right now, as i'll have to defend my thesis soon. Which means a lot of work :) | 14:47 | 
| kent_autistic | july!?!?! the next release of testing is on july!?!? why so long | 14:47 | 
| kent_autistic | oh goodluck then | 14:47 | 
| arcean | most of the needed stuff is already in place, the biggest challange will be to adopt gui to new functions | 14:50 | 
| arcean | which has to be done in 'hildon' way ;) | 14:51 | 
| merlin1991 | arcean: "defend your thesis" ? | 14:52 | 
| arcean | yeah :/ | 14:53 | 
| arcean | it's about some math stuff and harmattan :D | 14:54 | 
| merlin1991 | rofl | 14:54 | 
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| merlin1991 | freemangordon: ping | 15:13 | 
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| freemangordon | merlin1991, ping | 15:48 | 
| merlin1991 | could you upload the gcc sources you used to build the gcc and libstc++ to the develdebs folder? | 15:49 | 
| merlin1991 | also I jsut finished packing the lib | 15:49 | 
| merlin1991 | wasn't easy :D | 15:50 | 
| freemangordon | merlin1991, it is gcc4.6.2 release from gcc site | 15:51 | 
| merlin1991 | gimme the full link and I'll just wget it on the server | 15:51 | 
| freemangordon | just a second | 15:51 | 
| merlin1991 | thanks to gpl we can't simply say get it over there :/ | 15:51 | 
| freemangordon | actually we can | 15:51 | 
| freemangordon | AFAIK | 15:52 | 
| merlin1991 | not really | 15:52 | 
| merlin1991 | gpl states that *we* have to provide the source | 15:52 | 
| freemangordon | if requested :) | 15:52 | 
| merlin1991 | true :D | 15:52 | 
| merlin1991 | anyway better be on the safe side :) | 15:52 | 
| freemangordon | so if someone request it, we can give him the link | 15:52 | 
| merlin1991 | uh oh | 15:53 | 
| merlin1991 | I just checked what you did with the qt version number | 15:53 | 
| freemangordon | add -thumb0 | 15:54 | 
| freemangordon | any problem? | 15:54 | 
| merlin1991 | yea so when -testing does a cssu7 this goes over the -thumb0 | 15:54 | 
| freemangordon | nah | 15:54 | 
| merlin1991 | oh yes it does :D | 15:55 | 
| freemangordon | i've already tried that with h-d | 15:55 | 
| freemangordon | adding -thumbX and after that increasing the version should work | 15:55 | 
| freemangordon | I think dpkg is smart enough | 15:55 | 
| freemangordon | BTW if -testing goes cssu7, it is better those having thumb-compiled to wait for cssu7-thumb0 before upgrading ;) | 15:56 | 
| merlin1991 | you can never trust the user ;) | 15:57 | 
| merlin1991 | remember how many people suggest to use apt-get upgrade on tmo | 15:57 | 
| freemangordon | merlin, either ways we are safe | 15:57 | 
| merlin1991 | and something+cssu5 is > than something+cssu4-thumx for dpkg | 15:57 | 
| merlin1991 | yeah sure the debs from -testing should still work | 15:58 | 
| freemangordon | merlin1991, exactly | 15:58 | 
| merlin1991 | though you'll have odd results regarding "is it really thumb" and "what keeps happening to my rootfs" | 15:58 | 
| freemangordon | that way thumb users will receive latest -testing (even ARM-only compiled) while I am preparing -thumb version | 15:58 | 
| merlin1991 | on the other hand you'll probably update more often than -testing :D | 15:59 | 
| freemangordon | there is NP with it, as only thumb-compiled Qt is on rootfs, master is on /opt | 15:59 | 
| freemangordon | yeah, maybe | 15:59 | 
| merlin1991 | hm I wander that to use for the mp version | 15:59 | 
| freemangordon | hmm, the rate should be the same as for -devel | 15:59 | 
| merlin1991 | *wonder* | 16:00 | 
| freemangordon | the "-thumb0" suffix | 16:00 | 
| merlin1991 | makes sense | 16:00 | 
| freemangordon | or only -thumb | 16:00 | 
| merlin1991 | yeah only -thumb | 16:01 | 
| merlin1991 | afaik mag pushed an update to -testing yesterday | 16:01 | 
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: which packages did you compile for thumb already? | 16:03 | 
| merlin1991 | well actually, just give me the versions + package names you currently have thumb ready | 16:07 | 
| merlin1991 | so I can do the mp | 16:07 | 
| freemangordon | merlin1991, isn't it easy to just get Packages.gz from the repo? | 16:08 | 
| freemangordon | *easier | 16:08 | 
| freemangordon | as I don't have su a list | 16:08 | 
| freemangordon | *such | 16:08 | 
| merlin1991 | dang you should keep such a list in the future :D | 16:09 | 
| freemangordon | for the future I won't ask you tu update mp packages, just this time | 16:09 | 
| freemangordon | :) | 16:09 | 
| freemangordon | aaah, merlin1991, wait | 16:10 | 
| freemangordon | Qt depends on libstdc++ 4.2.1, should depend on 4.6.2 or whatever the lib package version is | 16:11 | 
| Raimu | "what keeps happening to my rootfs" :D | 16:11 | 
| merlin1991 | shit | 16:11 | 
| freemangordon | Yeah, I will have to rebuild it | 16:12 | 
| merlin1991 | 4.6.2+cssu0 | 16:12 | 
| merlin1991 | is the libstdc++ version | 16:12 | 
| freemangordon | the package is in the repo? | 16:12 | 
| merlin1991 | not yet | 16:12 | 
| freemangordon | push it, as otherwise I won't be able to test that all dependencies are in place | 16:13 | 
| merlin1991 | on my way | 16:13 | 
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: should be there | 16:16 | 
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| freemangordon | ok, thanks | 16:18 | 
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