IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Wednesday, 2012-05-30

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int_uafreemangordon: Hi, we are talking about the 3.0 kernel with mpoirier on the #linaro channel if you are interested :)10:37
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freemangordonarcean, ping12:37
arceanfreemangordon, pong12:38
freemangordonarcean, why new h-d is not in -devel repo, after all that is the whole purpose of that repo12:38
arceanlack of time to make desaturation configurable12:39
freemangordonconfigurable? what needs to be configured?12:39
freemangordonaah, a way to disable it?12:39
arceanyes, the way to enable/disable12:39
freemangordonbut that is not a reason for it to not enter -devel repo12:40
freemangordonAIU12:40
freemangordon*AIUI12:40
arceanhmm12:40
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arceanyou're right :D12:40
freemangordonsee, if we continue to attach .debs ont TMO threads, -devel repo will never start to be what it is supposed to be :)12:41
freemangordonarcean, BTW you have access to -devel repo, ain't?12:42
arceanDo we have the CSSU-devel thread on tmo?12:42
freemangordonarcean, yes12:42
arceanah, great :)12:42
freemangordonarcean, BTW have in mind I have that enabled on my primary phone, be careful what you put in there :P12:43
arcean:D12:43
freemangordonarcean, 10x12:44
arceanat least we'll know if something's broken :)12:44
freemangordonhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=8429212:44
freemangordonyeah12:44
freemangordonarcean, have in ming that usually package version in -devel repo should end up with .X12:46
freemangordon*mind12:46
freemangordoni.e. do not increase package version in changelog, just add .0,.1,..., so next testing update(which will have version increased) will take recedence12:47
arceani don't know about that, thanks :)12:47
freemangordonarcean, what is now in -devel repo is "Version: 1:2.2.142-21.1", so when adding the entry in debian/changelog, you should use 1:2.2.142-21.212:50
freemangordonso the next testing will be 1:2.2.142-22 ;)12:50
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Palifreemangordon, if you have time pack & push my patched HAM to -devel repo for testing13:37
freemangordon_ok13:38
Palihttps://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-hildon-application-manager13:38
Palibut I'm not sure if working correctly, so it really needs testing :)13:38
freemangordon_:-)13:38
RaimuI installed kernel-cssu yesterday.14:09
RaimuAlso installed all of the thumb-compiled pieces from cssu-thumb. That prompted things like this one stickynotes widget and Fapman not starting anymore.14:11
RaimuRunning fapman through terminal gave a error message about some Qt things missing.14:11
freemangordon_Rainu, you're missing new libstdc++ ;-)14:12
freemangordon_Raimu14:13
RaimuI see.14:13
freemangordon_sorry, typing from my n90014:13
freemangordon_I will upload it somewheri in an hour or so and will ping you14:14
RaimuKay!14:14
freemangordon_:-)14:14
RaimuIs there a TMO thread on the thumb experiment, BTW?14:14
RaimuNot that it necessarily needs one YET.14:14
freemangordon_still not, as you see, it is not ready for the general public yet14:15
Raimufreemangordon_: Anything noteworthy different between k-cssu and kp50 except for the fix?14:17
freemangordon_battery charger module14:18
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freemangordonRaimu, here http://dox.bg/files/dw?a=7a7c0ddb1514:32
freemangordonunzip tu /usr/lib and change libstdc++.so.6 to point to libstdc++.so.6.0.1614:33
freemangordon*to14:33
RaimuHuum14:40
freemangordonRaimu, huum as in?14:43
freemangordonRaimu, btw what did apt-get said about how less storage will be used?14:44
merlin1991freemangordon: when the libpackage is ready I can do you the mp :D14:45
freemangordonmerlin1991, thanks, I am still not convinced *-mp is a good idea. -thumb repo follows -devel repo and as it is changed frequently, managing -mp will be a PITA14:46
merlin1991though without mp you can't tell people to go add this repo and be happy :D14:46
merlin1991things are bound to break that way14:47
freemangordonyeah, I know :(14:47
freemangordonwell, ok, will try to make lib thingie today14:47
Raimufreemangordon: As in "let's get cracking". :) Done now.14:47
freemangordonaah :)14:47
freemangordonyou should have everything in place now14:48
Raimufreemangordon: You mean how much rootfs is used by installing the everything thumbed?14:48
Raimu-the14:48
freemangordonRaimu, apt0get upgrade usually tells "n kilobytes will be freed"14:49
merlin1991I think all in all you'll lose a bit of rootfs space since qt moves back into /usr instead of opt14:49
freemangordon:nod:14:49
merlin1991tough ofc overall space consumption goes down14:49
RaimuYes, I recall rootfs space dropped by several megabytes.14:49
freemangordonbut there should be gain from moving Qt to nand14:49
freemangordonand it will be compensated when more packages are thumb-compiled14:49
freemangordonmy question was "how much space we gain by using thumb"14:50
freemangordonno matter if it is in rottfs or in /opt14:51
freemangordonRaimu, BTW is there any visible slowdown from using kernel-cssu?14:52
merlin1991bah it's summer and all I get here is fsckd rain14:55
freemangordonmerlin1991, same here :(14:55
freemangordonit was raining for the last week or so14:55
merlin1991we should do a cssu meetup one day :D14:56
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freemangordonmerlin1991, we should have a new update some day14:56
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merlin1991yeah14:56
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merlin1991 afaik only the mp is missing, I've been pestering mag all week :D14:56
Raimufreemangordon: Not that I can discern.14:58
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freemangordonmerlin1991, would you made that -thumb libstdc++ shit for me, I want to RE facebook stuff14:58
merlin1991hm I guess if you've tared up all the stuff I could try make a package of it14:59
freemangordonmerlin1991, the library here here http://dox.bg/files/dw?a=7a7c0ddb15 is all that is needed so far14:59
freemangordonand a symlink change14:59
merlin1991okay I'll see what I can do14:59
freemangordonmerlin1991, thanks a lot15:00
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freemangordonRaimu, is everything ok with the new library?15:12
RaimuSo far. :)15:15
freemangordonBTW I hope you'de rebooted, so everyone to use newer library15:16
RaimuHnngh, the thumbed libraries ate something like 15 megs off rootfs.15:16
RaimuYeah, I power cycled the phone.15:16
freemangordonRaimu, that is because Qt is moved to rootfs from /opt15:18
freemangordonwe will regain those back when more stuff is thumb-cmpipled15:18
RaimuYeah, I got that they went into rootfs now. It's still an "ouch", because I'm used to trying to converse the space there. :)15:18
freemangordonmove libflashplayer to /opt15:20
freemangordon:D15:20
Raimu*conserve15:20
RaimuYeah, if space becomes ultra-scarce.15:20
Raimufreemangordon: Okay, all done. I'll report about things if they turn up.15:27
freemangordonok15:34
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Raimuarcean: About that monochroming addition for hildon-desktop's closing programs... I noticed it doesn't monochrome the app if you 'x' the program that's maximized currently and then pop on the running apps view.18:28
RaimuDoing this to mark an app window pending for closing is a great idea, by the way.18:29
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