| Estel_ | backupmenu backups and restore Your rootfs form nand and optfs *exactly* like it wa sin moment of doing backup | 00:00 |
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| tadzik | which is not too bad I guess, if I can easily backup my /home and then bring it back | 00:00 |
| tadzik | right | 00:00 |
| Estel_ | generally, experienced people are Ok to restore rootfs or optfs only | 00:00 |
| Estel_ | if Yuo knwo how to handle de-sync between rootfs and optfs (i.e. things one expect to exist but lacking in another) | 00:00 |
| tadzik | now that I listen to you I don't think I can handle it :) | 00:01 |
| tadzik | so I guess the easiest way to go is: 1) restore backup from backupmenu 2) install cssu again 3) bring back my apps | 00:01 |
| Estel_ | ;) if you don't have anything important | 00:01 |
| tadzik | well, I do | 00:01 |
| tadzik | but it's all in /home I guess | 00:01 |
| Estel_ | ...outside maemo's backup from backup program | 00:01 |
| Estel_ | the most bulletproof apporoach would be to flash FIASCO | 00:02 |
| Estel_ | as backupmenu is backuping /home/ alongside optfs | 00:02 |
| Estel_ | which is, probably, only one drawback of this program | 00:02 |
| Estel_ | I've suggested to split it to 2 optional backups, as, for example, I've preenv games in /home/games and backuping them alongside optfs, made bgackup # Gb in size | 00:02 |
| Estel_ | s/#/3/ | 00:03 |
| infobot | Estel_ meant: I've suggested to split it to 2 optional backups, as, for example, I've preenv games in /home/games and backuping them alongside optfs, made bgackup 3 Gb in size | 00:03 |
| tadzik | okay, let's get this straight. I want to reinstall the whole system, but somehow keep my smses, contacts, calendar, wolfenstein saves and so on | 00:03 |
| Estel_ | I don't know about wolfenstein save,s but rest should be in your backup from osso-backup | 00:03 |
| Estel_ | so, screw backupmenu backup this time, backup Your game's saves manually... | 00:03 |
| Estel_ | then reflash FIASCO | 00:03 |
| Estel_ | install CSSU | 00:03 |
| Estel_ | restore backup | 00:03 |
| Estel_ | and prepare proper backup with backupmenu | 00:04 |
| Estel_ | now, you're free to mess with whatever You want :p | 00:04 |
| tadzik | before I google FIASCO, I think I could just backup whole /home/user | 00:04 |
| Estel_ | don't google fiasco, just check article in maemo.org's Wiki "Updating the firmware" | 00:04 |
| tadzik | does that sound sane? tar.gz it and then unpack it again after restoring backup and reinstalling CSSU | 00:04 |
| Estel_ | I know, tricky name | 00:04 |
| Estel_ | You could, although, in home user, there are also hidden files like ".configsomething", and I'm not sure if You need it | 00:05 |
| tadzik | yeah, I'm aware of them | 00:05 |
| tadzik | ok, backupmenu goes first | 00:05 |
| Estel_ | so why not | 00:05 |
| tadzik | and while I'm going full crazy, how stable is cssu-testing? :) | 00:05 |
| Estel_ | very stable. | 00:06 |
| Estel_ | Only once in history there was a small mistake-update that amde people's device unbootable, but now, we have cssu-devel too | 00:07 |
| tadzik | oh, I didn't know about that one | 00:07 |
| Estel_ | Unles you perfectly know what You're doing, stick to cssu-testing and You'll be OK | 00:08 |
| tadzik | oh crap, seems that bootmenu's broken | 00:08 |
| Estel_ | BTw, welcome in our little Community :) | 00:09 |
| tadzik | hey, thanks :) | 00:09 |
| Estel_ | how come? | 00:09 |
| tadzik | no eye deer. "Error with: cp /usr/bin/evkey bla bla bla", No Such File Or Directory, Press Any Key To Continue | 00:09 |
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| tadzik | and it hangs | 00:09 |
| tadzik | even the led hanged | 00:09 |
| Estel_ | ops | 00:10 |
| Estel_ | I know wtf | 00:10 |
| Estel_ | I hoped they fixed it already | 00:10 |
| Estel_ | if You can boot to device, just do | 00:10 |
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| Estel_ | as root | 00:10 |
| tadzik | hold on, I removed the battery and now rebooting | 00:10 |
| Estel_ | wont help | 00:10 |
| tadzik | I hope it will, otherwise I have a bricked phone | 00:11 |
| Estel_ | Youre sure that it is "Error with: cp /usr/bin/evkey", and not /usr/sbin/evkey? | 00:11 |
| tadzik | could've been sbin | 00:11 |
| Estel_ | why broken? | 00:11 |
| Estel_ | can't boot normally to Maemo again? | 00:11 |
| tadzik | well, if you say "reboot wont help"... ;) | 00:11 |
| tadzik | Maemo has just booted | 00:11 |
| Estel_ | reboot won't help bootmenu | 00:11 |
| tadzik | I see | 00:11 |
| Estel_ | ok | 00:12 |
| Estel_ | now go back to device turned off | 00:12 |
| Estel_ | and re-check error message :p | 00:12 |
| Estel_ | as it's important to fix | 00:12 |
| tadzik | oh wtf | 00:12 |
| Estel_ | if it's /usr/sbin/evkey | 00:12 |
| Estel_ | You need to, from Maemo, as root: | 00:12 |
| Estel_ | cp /usr/bin/evkey /usr/sbin/evkey | 00:12 |
| Estel_ | otherwise, just turn it upside down | 00:12 |
| tadzik | hold on, something sensemaking seems to happen | 00:13 |
| Estel_ | You can also ln -s it | 00:13 |
| tadzik | maemo now wants to update stuff, and qtm-blabla is on the list | 00:13 |
| Estel_ | hm.... | 00:13 |
| tadzik | I'll see what happens | 00:13 |
| Estel_ | sure thing | 00:13 |
| tadzik | I don't expect success, as I tried installing CSSU-Testing once CSSU-Stable didn't want to reinstall | 00:14 |
| tadzik | so thing might've gone crazy | 00:14 |
| Estel_ | updating from cssu-stable to testing is ok | 00:14 |
| Estel_ | won't work other way | 00:14 |
| tadzik | understandable | 00:15 |
| tadzik | I know what you mean, I tried downgrading debian testing to debian stable once | 00:15 |
| Estel_ | ;) | 00:15 |
| tadzik | was an...interesting experience, to say it gently | 00:15 |
| tadzik | okay, that didn't fix anything. Back to bootmenu | 00:22 |
| tadzik | it's the sbin one that's missing | 00:23 |
| tadzik | oh wait | 00:26 |
| tadzik | Estel_: if I create a new backup using bootmenu, the old one will go away? | 00:26 |
| Estel_ | no, it's saved with data appended to it | 00:26 |
| tadzik | as in, There Can Be Only One? | 00:26 |
| Estel_ | s/data/date/ | 00:27 |
| infobot | Estel_ meant: no, it's saved with date appended to it | 00:27 |
| Estel_ | + time | 00:27 |
| Estel_ | you just need to keep and eye on it, or you can lose orientation which backup is which easily | 00:27 |
| tadzik | I'll backup /home/user first, Justin Case | 00:27 |
| tadzik | Estel_: hmm. Does restoring rootfs and opts touch /home/user at all? | 00:39 |
| Estel_ | yea | 00:41 |
| Estel_ | as I've said, backupmenu optf contain /home/user too | 00:41 |
| Estel_ | for reasons unknown, honestly | 00:41 |
| Estel_ | it doesn't touch MyDocs only | 00:41 |
| tadzik | oh, ok | 00:41 |
| tadzik | I'm now creating a new backup in bootmenu, in case that in an hour I'd be even in worse situation that I'm in now :) | 00:42 |
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| tadzik | Estel_: seems that everything works, with cssu-testing onboard :) | 01:41 |
| tadzik | thank you very much for your help | 01:41 |
| Estel_ | nice to hear :) | 01:41 |
| Estel_ | no problem, yw. | 01:41 |
| Estel_ | don't forget to prepare full rtootfs and optfs backup | 01:41 |
| Estel_ | so you can always go back to current situation | 01:41 |
| tadzik | right | 01:42 |
| tadzik | oh, and it actually did preserve my dotfiles, those in /home/user but not in MyDocs | 01:43 |
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| rzs19 | hello, i have upgraded to the latest stable version of maemo cssu and now i get a segmentation fault, when i try to start camera-ui. | 01:49 |
| tadzik | hmm | 01:49 |
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| rzs19 | okay, i got it, fcam driverswas the problem, i removed itand now everything is fine :) | 02:05 |
| rzs19 | creating groups i nthe contact app would be nice. | 02:06 |
| rzs19 | is there a way to disable all the 3dstuff? | 02:22 |
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| int_ua | anyone online? | 03:16 |
| rzs19 | yeah :D | 03:39 |
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| tadzik | is there a way to disable portrait mode for the main screen only? | 13:01 |
| tadzik | As in, the desktop, with widgets | 13:01 |
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| freemangordon | arcean, ping | 13:35 |
| Estel_ | tadzik, yes, there is | 13:36 |
| Estel_ | via some gconf command | 13:36 |
| Estel_ | although I agree it should be configurable via menu | 13:36 |
| freemangordon | which is described on CSSU wiki AFAIK | 13:36 |
| Estel_ | unf., You should search for this command in TMO | 13:36 |
| Estel_ | ah | 13:36 |
| Estel_ | so it's better | 13:37 |
| tadzik | gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/desktop_orientation_lock -t bool true | 13:37 |
| tadzik | ftr | 13:37 |
| tadzik | right, it was on the wiki | 13:37 |
| freemangordon | tadzik, don't think that is the correct command | 13:37 |
| Estel_ | morning freemangordon ;) | 13:37 |
| freemangordon | there should be another value | 13:37 |
| tadzik | it's described as Disable rotation of desktop | 13:37 |
| freemangordon | hmm | 13:37 |
| freemangordon | ok | 13:37 |
| freemangordon | Estel_, morning | 13:37 |
| tadzik | I'll just run it and see what blows up ;) | 13:37 |
| Estel_ | freemangordon, why another value? | 13:38 |
| freemangordon | iirc | 13:38 |
| freemangordon | gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate -t bool false | 13:38 |
| Estel_ | smth instead of true/false | 13:38 |
| Estel_ | hm, but he want to kill only desktop rotation | 13:39 |
| tadzik | seems to have worked | 13:39 |
| Estel_ | and keep rotating everything else | 13:39 |
| freemangordon | yes | 13:39 |
| Estel_ | ah | 13:39 |
| Estel_ | freemangordon is right | 13:39 |
| tadzik | now I have desktop still, and application list rotating, which is what I wanted | 13:39 |
| Estel_ | tadzik, what You've achieved is just like pishing on button in status menu | 13:39 |
| Estel_ | "orientation lock" | 13:39 |
| tadzik | nope | 13:39 |
| freemangordon | yep | 13:40 |
| freemangordon | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Features | 13:40 |
| tadzik | that's where I'm looking | 13:40 |
| freemangordon | here ^^^ | 13:40 |
| tadzik | Disable rotation of Task Switcher, Launcher and desktop -- that's what I not want | 13:40 |
| tadzik | Disable rotation of desktop -- that's what I meand | 13:40 |
| freemangordon | but,but... no application willrotate | 13:40 |
| tadzik | s/meand/meant/ | 13:40 |
| infobot | tadzik meant: Disable rotation of desktop -- that's what I meant | 13:40 |
| tadzik | oh | 13:40 |
| tadzik | no, conboy rotates as well | 13:40 |
| Estel_ | strange, when I use orientation lock, my program's list doesn't rotate | 13:41 |
| tadzik | so does fapman | 13:41 |
| Estel_ | bug? :D | 13:41 |
| freemangordon | tadzik, do what you want, you've been warned :P | 13:41 |
| * Estel_ investigates | 13:41 | |
| tadzik | well, I did that and have everything working as I wanted | 13:41 |
| freemangordon | gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/desktop_orientation_lock -t bool true | 13:41 |
| tadzik | please allow me to keep that for the sake of bug-wards compatibility :P | 13:41 |
| tadzik | right | 13:41 |
| freemangordon | aaah | 13:42 |
| freemangordon | sorry, my fault | 13:42 |
| tadzik | that's desktop-only, and sounds like so | 13:42 |
| freemangordon | I misread the value you're changing | 13:42 |
| Estel_ | yep | 13:42 |
| Estel_ | orientation_lock seems misguiding | 13:43 |
| freemangordon | Pali, ping | 13:43 |
| Pali | freemangordon, pong | 13:43 |
| tadzik | well, it's specifically desktop_orientation_lock | 13:43 |
| Estel_ | tadzik, right, everything is ok | 13:43 |
| freemangordon | Pali, my question why your HAM is not in -devel repo was not a joke | 13:43 |
| Estel_ | rest assured :D | 13:43 |
| tadzik | but that's odd that it's called orientation-lock in the menu, and ui_can_rotate in gconf | 13:43 |
| tadzik | can be confusing | 13:43 |
| freemangordon | that is the very reason we have it after all | 13:43 |
| Pali | freemangordon, because I forgot to upload it :) | 13:44 |
| Estel_ | Pali, nice to see You here - I've got interesting response in bug report | 13:44 |
| Estel_ | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12415 | 13:44 |
| povbot | Bug 12415: Missing source code of osso-backup | 13:44 |
| freemangordon | Just merge your changes back to master, build the .debs and but them on the -devel repo | 13:44 |
| Estel_ | see what Jaffa is implying there | 13:44 |
| Estel_ | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12415 | 13:44 |
| povbot | Bug 12415: Missing source code of osso-backup | 13:44 |
| Pali | Estel_ I read it, but I do not have time to write other mail/request/... to other nokia people | 13:44 |
| Estel_ | Pali, AFAIK You got sources on dvd from Nokia | 13:45 |
| Estel_ | is it there? | 13:45 |
| freemangordon | Pali, check for powertop too :) | 13:45 |
| Estel_ | wasn't it proper request? | 13:45 |
| Pali | freemangordon, Estel_ that DVD is only dump of repository.maemo.org maemo5 | 13:46 |
| Estel_ | understood | 13:46 |
| Pali | I check it no other maemo5 source code | 13:46 |
| freemangordon | damn | 13:46 |
| Estel_ | so what is "proper" way of requesting code that Jaffa is reffering to? | 13:46 |
| freemangordon | Estel_, check your "About" | 13:46 |
| Estel_ | yea | 13:46 |
| Estel_ | seen that | 13:46 |
| freemangordon | there is a mail there | 13:46 |
| freemangordon | that's it | 13:47 |
| Estel_ | honestly, I don't think bug is bad place for that, it seems like forgotten code by mistake | 13:47 |
| Estel_ | we can try it if nothing else helps | 13:47 |
| Pali | it is not proper way - it is better for nokia people "ask someone else, I do not have time to do it myself" | 13:47 |
| arcean | freemangordon, Pali: there's some kind of character encoding problem in ke-recv, http://i.imgur.com/6Nluf.png | 13:47 |
| Estel_ | but I doubt we will get any answer, and way of "enforcing" code for it is rather not-efficient | 13:47 |
| Estel_ | Pali, but Jaffa isn't Nokia employee, he just play wise there ;) | 13:48 |
| freemangordon | arcean, how to reproduce that? | 13:48 |
| Estel_ | let's wait for qgil response, after all hes Nokia contact for us for a reason | 13:48 |
| Pali | arcean, on parition names was working freemangordon | 13:48 |
| arcean | freemangordon: install cssu-testing and change language to PL :) | 13:48 |
| Estel_ | hey, I have it | 13:49 |
| Estel_ | where should I find bug? | 13:49 |
| freemangordon | good, now arcean will guide you :P | 13:49 |
| freemangordon | arcean, is it possible that the translation is screwed up? | 13:49 |
| Estel_ | well, I got total mess there | 13:49 |
| arcean | i don't think so | 13:50 |
| freemangordon | Estel_, arcean, install the latest freom cssu-devel, there a poile of bugfixes | 13:50 |
| freemangordon | *pile | 13:50 |
| * freemangordon think that he needs another coffee | 13:50 | |
| freemangordon | arcean, ke-recv in -testing (along with several other related packages) is screwed up | 13:51 |
| Pali | Estel_, so Jaffa cannot resolve that bug, so he wrote that we should ask someone else (eg. people in nokia) | 13:51 |
| Estel_ | honestly, I've never expected it to show properly polish chars, so I'm using other names anyway | 13:52 |
| tadzik | odd, the ę below is fine | 13:52 |
| freemangordon | arcean, enable -devel repo, upgrade, and report if the bug is still reproducible | 13:52 |
| Estel_ | Pali, Jaffa is just user commenting | 13:52 |
| Estel_ | he wasn't address of this bug | 13:52 |
| tadzik | heh, Estel_ you're Polish too? | 13:52 |
| Estel_ | it's just random user comment | 13:52 |
| Estel_ | yea. Expected, that You're polish tadzik | 13:52 |
| Estel_ | for obvious reasons | 13:52 |
| tadzik | right. 'tis a small world | 13:52 |
| Pali | ok, so we need to wait until someone from nokia write answer | 13:52 |
| freemangordon | the name? | 13:52 |
| Estel_ | yea | 13:52 |
| Estel_ | Pali, yea | 13:53 |
| Pali | or if you want you can start writting letters to nokia (to nokia finland post address) :D | 13:53 |
| Estel_ | freemangordon, but it's correctly displaying proper char in "Udostępnione multimedia" | 13:53 |
| Estel_ | btw, I remember how surprised I was, when stumbled upon arcean in polish Maemo forum, while searching for something | 13:54 |
| freemangordon | Estel_, once again, ke-recv is screwed up in -testing, do apt-get upgrade with -devel enabled. | 13:54 |
| Estel_ | and plentora of other names from TMO | 13:54 |
| Estel_ | yea | 13:54 |
| Estel_ | acknowledged | 13:54 |
| tadzik | seems that we could organize a hackathon or such :) | 13:54 |
| Estel_ | tadzik, why not... + arrange some striptizers to attacrt kernel devs :( | 13:55 |
| tadzik | exactly | 13:55 |
| Estel_ | s/attacrt/attract/ | 13:55 |
| infobot | Estel_ meant: tadzik, why not... + arrange some striptizers to attract kernel devs :( | 13:55 |
| arcean | tadzik, IIRC there was http://www.n9party.pl/ a week ago | 13:56 |
| Estel_ | tadzik, if You know any polish kernel dev, try to attract her/him into hacking N900 kernel alongside freemangordon and Pali - we can even think about donating device :P | 13:56 |
| tadzik | there was, but it was not meant to be a technical meeting of any sort | 13:56 |
| tadzik | at least that's what the organizer claimed, and it was just as he said | 13:57 |
| tadzik | Estel_: well, Stskeeps is in Poland for some time now :) | 13:57 |
| tadzik | not sure how much kernel hacking he's doing, but he's the Mer guy | 13:57 |
| Estel_ | yea, but he failed to Mer'd oomcrack ;) | 13:57 |
| Estel_ | seriously, Mer is ok | 13:57 |
| tadzik | didn't try it yet | 13:57 |
| Estel_ | but I rather though about someone from outside | 13:58 |
| freemangordon | hmm, I am note sure Stskeeps has any interests in Maemo | 13:58 |
| tadzik | still in the phase of "yeah, I'll order my sdcard tomorrow" | 13:58 |
| Estel_ | I'm sure he don't have any :D (interest) | 13:58 |
| Estel_ | well, some lucky people will be able to install it in N950's/N9's in ~5 weeks time | 13:59 |
| Estel_ | so they're saving on buying sd card ;P | 13:59 |
| Estel_ | freemangordon, decided already if You're going to apply for N950 without microS card reader and fmtx? :P | 14:00 |
| Pali | Estel_, see http://nds1.nokia.com/phones/files/guides/Nokia_N900_UG_en.pdf | 14:00 |
| Pali | page 127 | 14:00 |
| freemangordon | Estel_, I already answered that question :P | 14:00 |
| Estel_ | ouh? Sorry, memories fade, I don't remember | 14:01 |
| Estel_ | except for fact that it's yes | 14:01 |
| freemangordon | in short: "yes, but the only way it could become my primary device, is to find a way to connect fmtx to anthenna" | 14:02 |
| Estel_ | Pali, there is stated that it should be available via maemo.org | 14:02 |
| arcean | freemangordon, the creepy bug is still there | 14:02 |
| freemangordon | arcean, did you name memory card by hand? | 14:03 |
| Estel_ | could You post this quotation from manual as response to jaffa's comment? | 14:03 |
| arcean | no | 14:03 |
| freemangordon | arcean, then it is some translation bug | 14:03 |
| Estel_ | strange, I got "memory card" there | 14:04 |
| Estel_ | and I'm using polish too ;) | 14:04 |
| freemangordon | arcean, could you try to name it manually (8 chars max), using that missing character? | 14:05 |
| arcean | hmm | 14:06 |
| freemangordon | arcean, BTW which char should be there, a legular "t", or crossed "t" | 14:06 |
| freemangordon | *regula | 14:07 |
| freemangordon | aah, damn | 14:07 |
| Estel_ | hey, BTW, why Jaffa have Maemo's sign next to his name in bugzilla? | 14:07 |
| Estel_ | it's missleading | 14:07 |
| freemangordon | Estel_, better ask him directly | 14:08 |
| Estel_ | Pali though hes someone from Maemo's.org infrastructure | 14:08 |
| Estel_ | will do. | 14:08 |
| Estel_ | as soon as I manage to contact X-Fade, who is contactable as... always. | 14:08 |
| freemangordon | Estel_, did yoiu try to PM him? | 14:08 |
| arcean | freemangordon, it's not possible to type special PL char when renaming mem card | 14:09 |
| Estel_ | yea, hopeless case. I'm almost determined to open bug "Niels breet, who is assigned to:<> is not contactable" | 14:09 |
| freemangordon | arcean, I see, VFAT shit | 14:09 |
| Pali | also what about kernel-power repository bug? :P | 14:10 |
| Estel_ | it still exist?! | 14:10 |
| freemangordon | arcean, could you check your osso-filemanager-plpl or whatever is the translation | 14:10 |
| Estel_ | I thought it have been wiped out? | 14:10 |
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| arcean_ | freemangordon: np | 14:10 |
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| Estel_ | Pali, what's still non-working re kernel-power and repositories? | 14:11 |
| freemangordon | arcean_, as even if there is a bug, it is not in ke-recv, but in osso-gnome-vfs or in osso-filemanager | 14:11 |
| freemangordon | Estel_, KP cannot be promoted to extras | 14:11 |
| Pali | need to remove old version from extras | 14:12 |
| freemangordon | because one of its dependencies (KPS) cannot be promoted IIRC | 14:12 |
| Pali | http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power/ | 14:12 |
| freemangordon | aah, yeah | 14:12 |
| freemangordon | arcean_, I saw you've cloned h-d, another bug? | 14:14 |
| arcean_ | no :). I'm going to implement support for catalogs, creating removeing etc | 14:15 |
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| freemangordon | arcean_, great | 14:15 |
| freemangordon | you mean grouping applications? | 14:16 |
| freemangordon | in app launcher? | 14:16 |
| arcean_ | yes | 14:16 |
| freemangordon | perfect | 14:16 |
| freemangordon | BTW could you implement some "mark" when application is closed from within tasknav? I.e when "x" is clicked thumbnail to be kade darker, or something like that, it does not really matter | 14:17 |
| freemangordon | *makde | 14:18 |
| * freemangordon wonders what is wrong with his fingers these days | 14:18 | |
| Estel_ | I'm going to fill bug report, so it's matter of clearing old version from extras or ptomotion of kernel-power-settings? | 14:19 |
| Estel_ | arcean_, yea, such marking would help a lot | 14:19 |
| arcean_ | yeah, i like the idea | 14:21 |
| freemangordon | BTW a big red X accross the thumbnail will do the job and I think it will be very easy to be implemented using clutter | 14:22 |
| freemangordon | just two crossing lines | 14:22 |
| freemangordon | as adjusting the brigtness will be a bit harder AFAIK | 14:22 |
| freemangordon | the other option is to draw a mesh, but NFC how hard will be that | 14:23 |
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| Estel_ | making it darkes seems like best compromise | 14:25 |
| Estel_ | but of course even big ugly red X would do the job | 14:26 |
| freemangordon | NFC if clutter allows us to play with brightness | 14:26 |
| Estel_ | btw, it's still pending question: | 14:26 |
| Estel_ | <Estel_> I'm going to fill bug report, so it's matter of clearing old version from extras or ptomotion of kernel-power-settings? | 14:27 |
| freemangordon | Pali: ^^^ | 14:27 |
| Pali | ist better to tell this directly to X-Fade? | 14:28 |
| Pali | I filled kernel bug year ago | 14:28 |
| Estel_ | telling directly doesn't leave a trace | 14:29 |
| Estel_ | could You provide bug number? | 14:29 |
| Estel_ | I'll reincarnate it | 14:29 |
| Pali | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12284 | 14:29 |
| povbot | Bug 12284: kernel-power in maemo.org package interface | 14:29 |
| Estel_ | thanks | 14:29 |
| Estel_ | will reincarnate it + post in mailing list | 14:29 |
| Estel_ | + send it to X-Fade | 14:30 |
| Estel_ | at least he is supposed to answer to those reports | 14:30 |
| Pali | ok, thanks | 14:30 |
| Estel_ | what a bastards, N9's from device seeding are 16 GB! | 14:31 |
| Estel_ | honestly, for such program they could have spared 64 ones :P | 14:32 |
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| tadzik | woow, couldgps is pretty awesome | 15:05 |
| tadzik | heh https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5795 "The age of a software is not an argument" | 15:15 |
| povbot | Bug 5795: Update shipped Perl version to a recent one (currently: 5.8.4) | 15:15 |
| tadzik | I guess Security Bugs in Regexes are not an argument either | 15:15 |
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| kent_autistic | arcean_: ping | 15:39 |
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| arcean_ | kent_autistic: pong | 15:40 |
| kent_autistic | the h-d catalogs thats you mentioned. are those like folders in task launcher? | 15:41 |
| arcean_ | exactly | 15:42 |
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| kent_autistic | cool beans! | 15:43 |
| arcean_ | well, we'll see :) | 15:43 |
| kent_autistic | i have a suggestion on the X mark that freemangordon requested. | 15:44 |
| kent_autistic | whenever pressing on the small x in a window in task launcher, a big red X within the window flashes | 15:44 |
| freemangordon | kent_autistic, that is not feasible aiui | 15:45 |
| freemangordon | will be too much of a coding | 15:45 |
| kent_autistic | k got it | 15:45 |
| freemangordon | that will be another animation and that is not an easy task | 15:46 |
| kent_autistic | i'd like to test the new h-d in cssu devel but whenever I apt-get install hildon-desktop, it says I already have the latest version | 15:51 |
| freemangordon | kent_autistic, are you sure you'd enabled -devel repo? | 15:51 |
| freemangordon | and did apt-get update? | 15:51 |
| kent_autistic | yyyyep and yep | 15:51 |
| freemangordon | hmm, that is strange | 15:52 |
| kent_autistic | new kernel stuff is even shown in ham | 15:52 |
| freemangordon | what? | 15:52 |
| freemangordon | kernel-cssu? | 15:52 |
| freemangordon | kent_autistic, it is not extras-devel repo you have to enable | 15:53 |
| freemangordon | it is cssu-devel | 15:53 |
| kent_autistic | think so? yup it is cssu-devel, i made sure it is the only one enabled | 15:54 |
| freemangordon | kent_autistic, what is your current h-d version? | 15:55 |
| kent_autistic | how do i find out? | 15:55 |
| freemangordon | dpkg -l | grep hildon-desktop | 15:56 |
| freemangordon | for example | 15:56 |
| kent_autistic | freemangordon: 1:2.2.142-16-l32606 | 16:01 |
| freemangordon | kent_autistic, that seems like portrait-lock version, check if it is not pinned | 16:02 |
| kent_autistic | what's in the latest h-d? | 16:03 |
| freemangordon | check changelog | 16:04 |
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| arcean_ | desaturation should be enough, looks awesome :) | 17:10 |
| freemangordon | arcean_, :nod: | 17:27 |
| freemangordon | it was desaturation I was talking about, not brightness :D | 17:27 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991, ping | 17:38 |
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| Jaffa | Estel_: the "maemo" sign is like the IRC cloaks. | 19:44 |
| Estel_ | Could You elaborate? i'll admit that I still don't know what IRC cloaks are for (X-Fade wasn't contactable during weekend will try later) | 19:45 |
| Estel_ | Also, posting on council blog haven't generated threa don TMO automaticaly, i had to do it via hand :( | 19:45 |
| Estel_ | despite tyring with both "Council" category - while posting to blog, - and "news" category too | 19:46 |
| Jaffa | Estel_: I'm not "involved" in maemo.org's infrastructure in any actionable capacity | 19:46 |
| Estel_ | I know. | 19:46 |
| Jaffa | Estel_: Then contact Reggie - because he set up the RSS feed -> post on my request | 19:46 |
| Estel_ | OK, will do that. thanks for a pointer. | 19:47 |
| Jaffa | Estel_: Basically the "maemo.org" badge is like the "Nokia" badge. It's given to council members (past and present) and the folks who *are* involved in running the site. | 19:47 |
| Estel_ | understandable, although i'm not sure if should be kept for past - as, as You see, it tend to confuse people. | 19:47 |
| Jaffa | Estel_: Then raise a bug against the website and/or a discussion in maemo-community. | 19:48 |
| Estel_ | (Pali wasn't only one that thought "Andrew Flegg" is someone related to maemo infrastructure) | 19:48 |
| Estel_ | (and not everyone know Andrew=Jaffa) | 19:48 |
| Estel_ | discussion first. | 19:48 |
| Jaffa | Estel_: If only the names were clickable to take you to the profile... oh. They are ;-) | 19:48 |
| Estel_ | Maeybe people would like to keep it as a recognition - i'm not against it, i'm rather about practical side | 19:48 |
| Estel_ | ;p | 19:49 |
| Estel_ | thanks a lot for feedback, anyway. I'll leave now for some RL | 19:49 |
| Estel_ | feel free to write, i'll read it later | 19:49 |
| Estel_ | see ya! | 19:49 |
| Jaffa | Estel_: The counter-argument would be a) I know a lot of history so my comments (and similar people's comments) perhaps provide more context; b) I know the people who are involved so can escalate through backchannels if - say - the current council are AWOL | 19:49 |
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| merlin1991 | freemangordon: pong | 20:20 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: I couldn't test it yet since mag still didn't push a new update to -testing | 20:20 |
| Pali | ok | 20:22 |
| merlin1991 | I'll keep pushing mag though I think I'll just run a test against a temp repo if I find time tomorrow | 20:23 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991, would you do *-pr thing for -thumb repo for me. Everything else is in place | 20:49 |
| freemangordon | I meen, kernel, package dependencies, etc. | 20:49 |
| freemangordon | AND as AFAIK you have a SW helper which eases *-pr stuff, that is why I am asking | 20:50 |
| freemangordon | aah, wait, I forgot to push new libstdc++ | 20:52 |
| freemangordon | but anyway, the other stuff is in place | 20:52 |
| merlin1991 | I only have the hw helper on top of my shoulders for that :D | 21:46 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: did you add the dependency on the thumb errata to all thumb packages? | 21:51 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991, yep | 21:53 |
| merlin1991 | I'll look into it later :) | 21:54 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991, I will need some time to prepare libstdc++ package, so no hurry. And have in mind it will be binary only ;) | 21:55 |
| merlin1991 | :/ | 21:55 |
| freemangordon | no way to build gcc inside SB | 21:56 |
| merlin1991 | yeah true | 21:56 |
| freemangordon | and as I didn't use debianized package to build gcc, but the vanilla source, it is beyond my capabilities to debianize it :D | 21:59 |
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| Estel_ | Pali, Quim assigned bug 12415 to himself :) | 23:12 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12415 Missing source code of osso-backup | 23:12 |
| Pali | Estel_, now I read it :) | 23:12 |
| Jaffa | Estel_: As he raised he, he should've got an automatic notification | 23:12 |
| Pali | Now I belive that somebody in Nokia find missing code | 23:13 |
| freemangordon | Pali, since when you are a believer? :P | 23:14 |
| Pali | since now when somebody from Nokia read 8 months old bug :D | 23:15 |
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| Estel_ | :D You see, new Council is doing magic :D | 23:43 |
| Estel_ | Jaffa, you mean that he should get auto notification from now on, OR that he should get some kind of notification long time ago, and something failed? | 23:44 |
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