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| kakashi__ | hi all | 13:52 |
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| kakashi__ | I want to reinstall everything on n900 from scratch | 13:52 |
| kakashi__ | can I directly install cssu | 13:52 |
| kakashi__ | any pointers to that_ | 13:52 |
| NIN101 | afaik, there no official images with CSSU, so I think: no. | 13:53 |
| kakashi__ | so PR 1.3 and then cssu? | 13:53 |
| NIN101 | official as in "coming from the CSSU team"... | 13:53 |
| NIN101 | yes | 13:53 |
| kakashi__ | yes | 13:53 |
| kakashi__ | and any progress on mer/meego (by any chance maemo replacement)? | 13:55 |
| NIN101 | no maemo replacements. | 14:40 |
| * amiconn would rather keep maemo than go meego, but would like to see a few things updated | 14:41 | |
| * amiconn would also like to know a few things | 14:42 | |
| amiconn | Like, what stops kernel development from actually updating the kernel to a newer 2.6.x or even 3.x? | 14:42 |
| NIN101 | for example, depricated interfaces. | 14:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer | amiconn: newer kernels not compatible OOTB to the closed blobs we still have on fremantle (gfx-accel only most popular example) | 16:52 |
| amiconn | I didn't know we do have such blobs. I thought such things aren't allowed for kernel stuff, as its license forbids that? | 16:54 |
| merlin1991 | amiconn: it's what all the vendors do | 16:55 |
| merlin1991 | have a gpl "interface" in the kernel | 16:55 |
| merlin1991 | and a closed userspace blob that does the actual stuff | 16:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | on fremantle we got plenty of that | 17:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, scratch that statement, not all of what I thought of is actually kernel related | 17:44 |
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| MohammadAG | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=3CWfP2Gw | 20:32 |
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| *** ChanServ changes topic to "Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo2 (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo2.1" | 20:33 | |
| Sicelo | MohammadAG: new cssu? | 20:34 |
| Sicelo | \o/ | 20:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | o.O | 20:36 |
| MohammadAG | Sicelo, no, we decided to shut it down and raise the version number one final time | 20:36 |
| MohammadAG | :P | 20:36 |
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| *** DocScrutinizer changes topic to "Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo2; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo2.1" | 20:37 | |
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| Sicelo | lol | 20:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | lol? | 20:38 |
| * Sicelo uses stable.. so doesn't really know current versions of testing | 20:38 | |
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| freemangordon | MohammadAG, ke-recv is missing, as are alarmd and libhildonfm | 20:44 |
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| MohammadAG | freemangordon, libhildonfm is there, I wasn't told to include the first two | 20:44 |
| freemangordon | well, linhildonfm is there but two others not | 20:44 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, ping | 20:44 |
| freemangordon | libhildonfm is because ke-recv, and alarmd has a bugfix | 20:45 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: ke-recv and alarmd will go into the next update | 20:47 |
| merlin1991 | end of coming week or after | 20:47 |
| freemangordon | I am not sure libhildonfm is tested with a version of ke-recv outside of latest in CSSU repo. and ke-recv seems rock-stable, as is alarmd, why those are not included? | 20:48 |
| merlin1991 | because building started before those were finished | 20:49 |
| merlin1991 | + next update should be really quick anyway | 20:49 |
| freemangordon | aah, ok | 20:49 |
| merlin1991 | there are a few things that can go into it | 20:50 |
| Sicelo | thanks to all involved. :) | 20:50 |
| freemangordon | :) | 20:50 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991, I am ok with that, as soon as it is not a mistake | 20:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | how to close friggin pdf reader when fullscreen and no hw kbd? | 20:54 |
| merlin1991 | unfullscreen and use the x? | 20:55 |
| Sicelo | guess you bring it out of full-screen first.. or power button ? | 20:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | aah, power button "close recent app" | 20:55 |
| Sicelo | :) | 20:55 |
| merlin1991 | ah it did crash? | 20:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: Sicelo: well, HOW do I bring it out of fullscreen? | 20:56 |
| merlin1991 | tap screen | 20:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | no way | 20:56 |
| merlin1991 | then you get the icon lower right corner | 20:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | nope | 20:56 |
| merlin1991 | hm that is with the pdf reader in stock maemo | 20:56 |
| merlin1991 | let's see on my -testing device | 20:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | neither with tap nor double- nor long-tap | 20:56 |
| merlin1991 | hm it's there | 20:57 |
| merlin1991 | lower right corner left from the scrollbar | 20:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | opened a pdf from xchat, then clicked the icon lower right and it went fullscreen and that''s it | 20:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | two ti | 20:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | tiny scrollbars right and bottom, and a context menu on tap-and-hold | 20:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | no way to go from fullscreen to "normal" mode | 20:59 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: http://cdnm.at/~christian/maemo/Screenshot-20120318-195923.png | 21:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm weird, maybe I used hw kbd to enter a special fullscreen mode | 21:01 |
| Sicelo | tapping anywhere on mine brings up the full-screen icon at lower right | 21:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | MEH I zoomed in | 21:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | the lower-right icon is almost invisible white on white | 21:02 |
| * Sicelo buys DocScrutinizer a new set of glasses ;) | 21:03 | |
| * DocScrutinizer buys Sicelo a book about GUI design principles and general usability | 21:04 | |
| * merlin1991 Tells #maemo-ssu to FIX IT | 21:04 | |
| merlin1991 | ffs we have the pdf reader already in the cssu | 21:05 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 21:05 |
| merlin1991 | though I wonder what would be a good solution | 21:05 |
| merlin1991 | have the icon with a non transparent bg? | 21:06 |
| MohammadAG | on first start, black everything, then point to the arrow with espeak saying "This is the exit fullscreen button" | 21:06 |
| merlin1991 | uh oh | 21:06 |
| MohammadAG | or do what the browser does, and have a transparent gray background | 21:06 |
| merlin1991 | that reminds me of the fsckd "this is how you swipe" intro on the n9 | 21:07 |
| Sicelo | so, cssu stable.. can we 'expect' one soon? | 21:07 |
| merlin1991 | unskippable up to a certain point and comes back whenever you reflash | 21:07 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, there's no such thing on the N950 :D | 21:07 |
| merlin1991 | Sicelo: I'm looking forward to inlcude the current hildon-desktop, hildon-home, hildon-status-menu, clutter and freetype after a short period of widespread -testing | 21:08 |
| Sicelo | kewl | 21:09 |
| merlin1991 | biggest feature you'll get is portrait wallpapers :) | 21:09 |
| Sicelo | pdf reader has translations now? and calculator, is it fixted? | 21:11 |
| Sicelo | *fixed | 21:11 |
| merlin1991 | pdf reader translation will show up in the next -testing | 21:12 |
| Sicelo | what about calculator? | 21:14 |
| merlin1991 | I'm not sure but I think the bug in calculator is fixed already | 21:14 |
| merlin1991 | though I have to investiagte | 21:14 |
| Sicelo | for us in stable it's not, yet | 21:15 |
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| Raimu | Ah, new testing release. Should it be updatable through app manager and community-testing repo now? | 22:34 |
| Raimu | (I don't see it yet) | 22:34 |
| merlin1991 | o_O it didn't land in repo | 22:40 |
| merlin1991 | I guess I'll have to pm X-Fade tomorrow | 22:40 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991, try to help with KP50 too. | 22:41 |
| merlin1991 | yeah I'll get a 5€ wrench and seek him out :D | 22:42 |
| merlin1991 | nah I'll see what I can do | 22:42 |
| freemangordon | both WFM :D | 22:42 |
| Raimu | However, I did get KP50 through some repo. | 22:43 |
| freemangordon | Raimu, after several tries it landed in repo, but is unaccesible through maemo extras interface, so cannot be promoted | 22:43 |
| Raimu | Ah, same old problem. | 22:43 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 22:44 |
| merlin1991 | headers and debug are in the package interface though | 22:44 |
| freemangordon | but only those :( | 22:45 |
| merlin1991 | so kp50 made it into the repo but not the interface? | 22:46 |
| freemangordon | yeah, the same as kp49 | 22:46 |
| kakashi___ | this is one stupid question, how do I know if I have PR1.3 | 22:47 |
| Raimu | It's not a stupid question. | 22:47 |
| kakashi___ | not the cssu, I am about to install the cssu, but I want to know if I have PR1.3 or not! | 22:48 |
| Raimu | "PR1.3" isn't a string that's displayed anywhere in the n900 | 22:48 |
| kakashi___ | yep | 22:48 |
| Raimu | You need to know it by its date revision number. | 22:48 |
| Raimu | 20.2010.36(PR1.3) or 21.2011.38(PR1.3.1) | 22:48 |
| Raimu | In settings -> about | 22:49 |
| kakashi___ | 20.2010.36-2 | 22:49 |
| kakashi___ | so now, can I install cssu? | 22:49 |
| Raimu | You sure can, I think. | 22:49 |
| kakashi___ | you still think there is a small bit of uncertainity? | 22:50 |
| Raimu | No. | 22:50 |
| Raimu | Just a figure of speech. | 22:50 |
| kakashi___ | ah! so, I can! | 22:50 |
| Raimu | Yes! | 22:51 |
| kakashi___ | thanks Raimu | 22:51 |
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