IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Sunday, 2012-03-04

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LinuxCodeif any of you type int eh wrong shell for root03:06
LinuxCodeand $ root doesnt work anymore03:06
LinuxCodesudo gainroot works anyway03:06
merlin1991because sudo gainroot03:08
merlin1991does not set the environment03:08
LinuxCodemerlin1991, perfect ;-}03:09
LinuxCodeand I even got an explanation03:09
LinuxCodejust glad I didnt have to reflash03:09
LinuxCodeI only had my N900 for 3 days03:10
LinuxCodeI ordered one over a year ago, but it got stolen out of the box, before they shipped it03:10
LinuxCodeso, had to battle with the retailer03:10
LinuxCodeshame Nokia abandoned this, few more years of dev, it would have been a perfect platform03:11
LinuxCodemerlin1991, do you use your front cam often ?03:11
LinuxCodeI had it lock up on me a few times now03:11
LinuxCodeonly way to fix that was to reboot03:11
LinuxCodethe red led stays on03:11
merlin1991odd03:12
LinuxCodesaying that, I have not tried killing the process03:12
LinuxCodeso maybe I should try figuring that out first, which process locks it03:12
merlin1991camer-ui03:12
merlin1991possibly03:12
merlin1991or wait03:12
LinuxCodemerlin1991, I get more info03:12
merlin1991am I confusing back and front?03:12
merlin1991which cam do you mean?03:12
LinuxCodeback = 5MP03:13
LinuxCodefront = crap 0.3MP03:13
LinuxCode;-}03:13
merlin1991okay :)03:13
LinuxCodeI say crap, 0.3 isnt bw hungry03:13
merlin1991okay back camera if anything should be affected by camera-ui03:13
LinuxCodek03:13
LinuxCodeI look into it mate03:13
merlin1991unless you have stuff like fcam or bless900 and all the other alternative cam stuff03:14
LinuxCodedo we have a bugzilla for the community effort ?03:14
merlin1991bugs.maemo.org03:14
LinuxCodeahh k03:14
merlin1991there is a component community ssu03:14
LinuxCodekk cool03:14
merlin1991current buglist is in /topic03:14
LinuxCodebless900 and fcam, interesting03:14
LinuxCodeI keep you posted and will file a bug, if I find something interesting03:15
LinuxCodethank you for your responses so far, much appreciated03:16
LinuxCodeoff to bed nn03:16
LinuxCode;-}03:16
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DocScrutinizererr wut? bug in CSSU re front cam? nonsense05:32
DocScrutinizerthough actually nikocam might mess up the muxing between front and main cam05:33
DocScrutinizeryou know front and main cam share same SoC HW IF, muxed by a switch. So are mutually exclusive use05:37
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int_uaHi, I've installed sp-rich-core and have three dumps already. The last errors in oopslog are perl and dbus-launch crashes. Can I differentiate between hardware malfunction and software bugs with these dumps?13:53
int_ua(kernel oops dumps)13:53
int_uashould I report a bug? One or multiple?13:55
int_uaI'm using stock kernel, not the KP13:55
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DocScrutinizeryou basically never can tell apart for sure hw and sw bugs, unless you analyzed the dump to the root cause and see if e.g. the null pointer was never initialized or got wrong data via a defect bus from a defect RAM15:25
DocScrutinizerhw bugs are hard to spot15:25
DocScrutinizerthey come in 5 dozen disguises15:26
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DocScrutinizeroops seems that's no proper substantiv15:26
DocScrutinizers/disguises/camouflages/15:27
DocScrutinizeranyway neither dbus nor perl itself should coredump. Perl might on extremely rogue perl code it has to execute. dbus *never* may15:29
DocScrutinizerso I guess yes, it would be more than appropriate to open a ticket against dbus15:29
DocScrutinizerfor perl you should find out which perl code it executed and if the fault was inside perl interpreter or rather inside the code15:30
DocScrutinizerotherwise a ticket against perl is rather useless15:30
DocScrutinizerat least that's according to my poor knowledge of perl. I don't assume it is built in a way so it never ever could reasonably coredump on a rogue sequence of perl commands15:33
DocScrutinizercompare BASIC - if your basic interpreter doesn't have any peek, poke, or call romcode subroutine commands, it should be impossible to make it coredump. As soon as you can poke to arbitrary memory locations, you obviously can make it segfault easily15:35
DocScrutinizermeh, he's gone :-//15:36
Lava_Croftthe yoke of having JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS ignored in irssi ;)15:37
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