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SpacedOut | merlin1991: Qt .tar.gz isn't available only qt4-x11_4.7.4~git20110505+cssu6.dsc so you can't apt-get source and build it for x86-32. | 02:15 |
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merlin1991 | SpacedOut: yeah qt you have to build either from gitorious | 14:15 |
merlin1991 | or from -stable | 14:15 |
merlin1991 | (stable includes the qt sources | 14:15 |
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DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: 'ting today? | 19:52 |
DocScrutinizer | OOOH *bug*'ting | 19:53 |
merlin1991 | see topic :D | 19:53 |
merlin1991 | 3 hrs to go :D | 19:53 |
DocScrutinizer | what's with "fixed" ke-recv and mountscripts? go to T? | 19:53 |
merlin1991 | that's for after the bugmeeting | 19:54 |
DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 19:54 |
DocScrutinizer | anyway please put it on whatever-2do-list | 19:54 |
DocScrutinizer | so we don't forget about it | 19:55 |
DocScrutinizer | who created this? Pali ? | 19:55 |
DocScrutinizer | Pali: ping | 19:55 |
Pali | I fixed ke-recv for proper automounting | 19:56 |
DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 19:57 |
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DocScrutinizer | we prolly want to get that into T, no? | 19:57 |
Pali | We need it :-) | 19:58 |
Pali | DocScrutinizer, for automounting usb hdd in host mode is needed kernel-power pre v50 | 19:59 |
Pali | there was bug (in kernel usb host mode) which does not send event about host mode state and HAL does not see correct musb state | 20:00 |
DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 20:00 |
DocScrutinizer | anyway that's kernel domain, we still have no CSSU kernel (and won't get that any time soon, if I'm to decide on it) | 20:01 |
Pali | ok, I only wrote this info, because you (and propably other people) could write me that ke-recv does not working in host mode.... | 20:02 |
DocScrutinizer | a compatible bugfixed/augmented ke-recv however is sth we probably want in CSSU, as it perfectly meets the definition for things we get there and not any other way | 20:02 |
DocScrutinizer | Pali: you may want to add an according note to wherever the docs/readme/changenotes for your fixed ke-recv reside | 20:04 |
Pali | to debian/changelog? | 20:04 |
Pali | also it can fix bug 7153 | 20:05 |
povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/7153 Built-in MMC scripts only support FAT-formatted | 20:05 |
DocScrutinizer | "ke-recv work by listening to kernel event nozifications. Due to a flaw in stock kernel and PK up to v49 those event notifications are not sent by kernel for USB attach events..." something like that | 20:05 |
Pali | ke-recv listening to HAL :-) not to kernel | 20:06 |
DocScrutinizer | whatever | 20:06 |
DocScrutinizer | explain it, and we're all happy :-D | 20:06 |
Pali | where to write this info? | 20:06 |
DocScrutinizer | as mentioned above, probably to README.txt in gitorious | 20:07 |
Pali | ok | 20:07 |
DocScrutinizer | or even changelog, whatever fits better | 20:07 |
Pali | it is already in commit message: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv/commit/fef71c1f8acd49fcc780804e603e8d336fffbbdd | 20:08 |
DocScrutinizer | great | 20:09 |
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DocScrutinizer | bbl, off for brinner & tea-with-rum (fight the flu ;-D) | 20:20 |
DocScrutinizer | umm, 21UTC == 22CET, right? | 20:21 |
DocScrutinizer | o/ | 20:22 |
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merlin1991 | yep right | 20:31 |
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freemangordon_ | it is 23 local :-( | 20:41 |
merlin1991 | well if everyone is here we can start earlier | 20:42 |
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merlin1991 | arcean: do you think the fixed hildon-home is ready for a merge request? | 20:47 |
arcean | the fixed h-home? | 20:47 |
arcean | you mean the one with fixed wallpaper sets? | 20:47 |
merlin1991 | yep | 20:48 |
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arcean | hmm, I will create a MR during a weekend | 20:50 |
arcean | at least it's stable enough to include it into testing | 20:51 |
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freemangordon | arcean, I've done some modifications to h-d on top of your repo, still not complete though, will you please wait me until I finish and do a MR | 20:56 |
arcean | freemangordon, ok | 20:56 |
freemangordon | some fixes to task manager (aspect ration for landscape apps in portrait, stuff like that) | 20:57 |
freemangordon | thanks | 20:57 |
arcean | about portrait lock - there's a problem with Qt apps | 20:57 |
arcean | when the forcedrotation is switched off, the portrait lock is simply not working | 20:58 |
freemangordon | arcean, yeah, you told me, but despite, lets put everything on main repo, will fix QT afterwards. I think it will be very easy to change Qt to listen to new dbus signals | 20:58 |
freemangordon | BTW I nad an idea - is it possible to change mce orientation signals, to trick the closed source apps? | 21:00 |
freemangordon | *had | 21:00 |
freemangordon | and write another daemon which emits them under h-d control. | 21:00 |
merlin1991 | wtf | 21:03 |
merlin1991 | why write another deamon | 21:03 |
merlin1991 | h-d is already listening to them to manage app state | 21:03 |
merlin1991 | would only make sense to have h-d listen to changed signals and emit the proper ones himself | 21:03 |
freemangordon | sure, but there are apps (browser for example), which listen directly to mce | 21:03 |
freemangordon | completely ignoring h-d | 21:04 |
merlin1991 | like I said | 21:04 |
merlin1991 | swap mce output | 21:05 |
merlin1991 | listend to swapped and emit old outpot from h-d | 21:05 |
freemangordon | swap? | 21:06 |
freemangordon | hmm, maybe we are talking for one and the same thing (axcluding the daemon :) ) | 21:07 |
freemangordon | yeah, another deamon is not really needed. | 21:07 |
merlin1991 | yep | 21:10 |
merlin1991 | we meant the same thing only I meant that there is no need for yet another deamon | 21:10 |
freemangordon | :nod: | 21:11 |
Pali | other option would be to understad MCE and port open source harmattan MCE to maemo5 :-) | 21:24 |
Pali | and here implement other dbus signal | 21:24 |
arcean | hehe yeah :) | 21:25 |
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merlin1991 | okay who's here (except for pali who timed out) | 21:44 |
freemangordon | I am | 21:45 |
arcean | I'm here too | 21:46 |
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freemangordon | merlin1991, and who is expected to be here? | 21:52 |
merlin1991 | doc, pali, arcean, mag, andrew you and me | 21:52 |
merlin1991 | though they are all expected to be here in one hour | 21:53 |
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freemangordon | yeah | 21:56 |
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merlin1991 | Sc0rpius: ping | 22:03 |
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andre__ | IRC meeting? or so? | 23:01 |
merlin1991 | yes | 23:02 |
merlin1991 | now | 23:02 |
merlin1991 | okay who's here | 23:02 |
freemangordon | merlin1991, ping | 23:02 |
freemangordon | oops | 23:02 |
merlin1991 | :D | 23:02 |
freemangordon | do we have an agenda? | 23:02 |
merlin1991 | arcean_, DocScrutinizer, Sc0rpius ping | 23:02 |
merlin1991 | agenda is | 23:03 |
andre__ | are we here or are we in #maemo-meeting? I assume here? | 23:03 |
merlin1991 | announce bug # and check if already fixed or not | 23:03 |
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merlin1991 | in here simply | 23:03 |
arcean_ | merlin1991, pong | 23:03 |
andre__ | k | 23:03 |
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DocScrutinizer | AYE SIR | 23:03 |
merlin1991 | I wanted to have this mainly to filter out all the bugs that are already fixed but still on the tracker | 23:03 |
freemangordon | merlin1991, you mean from the bugtracker? | 23:03 |
merlin1991 | yep | 23:03 |
freemangordon | ok | 23:03 |
merlin1991 | first bug in question is bug 11990 | 23:04 |
povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/11990 resize patch against PR1.3 hildon-home | 23:04 |
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merlin1991 | arcean_: could you look into that? | 23:05 |
andre__ | errm, well, the complete list (including enhancement requests) would be this actually: https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&product=Maemo%205%20Community%20SSU | 23:05 |
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merlin1991 | andre__: we can filter out a lot of the list for now | 23:06 |
arcean_ | merlin1991, patch was removed from testing some time ago, introduced a bunch of bugs | 23:06 |
merlin1991 | what was the outcome back then, wontfix or needswork? | 23:07 |
DocScrutinizer | andre__: many thanks | 23:07 |
andre__ | merlin1991: sharing the list that we talk about here is nice so everybody could get an overview and take a look at issues, not only once their numbers have been posted here | 23:07 |
merlin1991 | andre__: the list is in the /topic | 23:07 |
merlin1991 | thought everyone knew that | 23:07 |
DocScrutinizer | err wut? | 23:07 |
merlin1991 | | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | | 23:08 |
DocScrutinizer | aah, k | 23:08 |
andre__ | eeks. thanks. | 23:08 |
merlin1991 | arcean_: so whataobut the patch was it ever decided if we fix it? | 23:08 |
arcean_ | merlin1991, AFAIK no | 23:09 |
merlin1991 | do you want to work on it? | 23:09 |
arcean_ | merlin1991, those patches are a bit "hackish" | 23:09 |
merlin1991 | otherwise I think it is a wontfix since the attached patch is faulty | 23:09 |
freemangordon | merlin1991, that is another cosmetic change to h-d, lets first finish what is not finished, WONTFIX if you ask me | 23:10 |
arcean_ | merlin1991, sure, I can take a look | 23:10 |
merlin1991 | arcean_: if you want to look into it otherwise I would say wontfix | 23:10 |
DocScrutinizer | wtf?! this new login "function" in tracker sucks. How's my browser supposed to keep the auto-texts for each single bug page? | 23:11 |
merlin1991 | anybody else is also welcome to hack on it, but afaik arcean knows most about h-d :D | 23:11 |
freemangordon | well, change the status then to needswork (or whatever appropriate) and lets move on | 23:12 |
merlin1991 | okay next one is #11993 | 23:13 |
merlin1991 | bug #11993 | 23:13 |
povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/11993 Mangling email addresses containing accented characters when replying | 23:13 |
merlin1991 | I don't even know what the current state in cssu is | 23:13 |
merlin1991 | I guees needinfo | 23:16 |
freemangordon | someone with accented characters on his keyboard shoud try it, but cyrillic WMF, should be no difference | 23:16 |
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merlin1991 | next up is bug #12011 | 23:17 |
povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12011 Tactile feedback when the phone secures itself | 23:17 |
merlin1991 | I think that one should go into enhancement | 23:17 |
merlin1991 | if anything it has to be reassigned against the tactile package in extras-devel | 23:18 |
DocScrutinizer | 11993 sounds like a different flavour of the xchat DOS attack with rogue string | 23:18 |
merlin1991 | you think it might be related to gtk? | 23:19 |
DocScrutinizer | yep | 23:19 |
DocScrutinizer | a guts feeling | 23:19 |
DocScrutinizer | too similar | 23:19 |
merlin1991 | bug #12030 | 23:19 |
povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12030 Visual artefacts with hildon-menu rotation | 23:19 |
merlin1991 | is a worksforme for me, please check so I know I'm not the only one | 23:20 |
DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: NFC if modest even uses gtk at all | 23:20 |
arcean_ | merlin1991, #12030, it's related to lack of blur effect | 23:21 |
arcean_ | some people use desaturation instead of the blur | 23:23 |
freemangordon | and it seems desaturation is the reason | 23:23 |
arcean_ | yep | 23:24 |
freemangordon | merlin1991, better close that as INVALID/WONTFIX, report is one year old, the author is not in CC list, the bug report is incomplete | 23:25 |
merlin1991 | arcean_: do you think it is fixable easily? | 23:25 |
arcean_ | merlin1991, it's how it was designed | 23:26 |
merlin1991 | so a wontfix? | 23:26 |
DocScrutinizer | LOL | 23:26 |
andre__ | freemangordon: what do you mean by "author is not in CC list"? | 23:27 |
freemangordon | yep | 23:27 |
freemangordon | CC List: 0 users (show) | 23:27 |
arcean_ | each menu/task manager view zooms out wallpaper | 23:27 |
DocScrutinizer | afk 3min | 23:27 |
andre__ | freemangordon, that's a non argument | 23:27 |
andre__ | freemangordon, reporter still receives bugmail as reporter. | 23:27 |
freemangordon | aah, ok | 23:28 |
andre__ | if you mean author = software writer that's a different argument though :P | 23:28 |
freemangordon | I meant the author | 23:28 |
freemangordon | of the bug report | 23:28 |
freemangordon | Anyway the bug in question is INVALID for me | 23:29 |
merlin1991 | arcean_: so is it a wontfix? | 23:29 |
arcean_ | merlin1991, I think so | 23:29 |
merlin1991 | okay | 23:29 |
merlin1991 | bug #12031 | 23:30 |
povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12031 Zoom out (ctrl-shift-f) goes one step too far | 23:30 |
arcean_ | heh, I can reproduce this :) | 23:30 |
merlin1991 | actually I'm in favour of removing that zoom feature from the codebase, it does nothing (screen is neither panable nor useable in zoomed state) but has bugs | 23:30 |
freemangordon | agree | 23:31 |
freemangordon | I'll try to do that | 23:32 |
freemangordon | assign it to me | 23:32 |
merlin1991 | freemangordon: it got introduced by mag I think so it should be a matter of tracking down a commit | 23:32 |
DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: +1 | 23:32 |
merlin1991 | arcean_, andre__ thoughts about removing zoom altogether? | 23:32 |
freemangordon | well, then it is better to ask MAG to remove it | 23:33 |
merlin1991 | I don't think he has the time | 23:33 |
DocScrutinizer | I repeat my prev question | 23:33 |
freemangordon | ok, then I will remove it if everyone agree | 23:33 |
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arcean_ | merlin1991, let's remove it | 23:34 |
freemangordon | DocScrutinizer, agree, but lets not discuss that now | 23:34 |
DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 23:34 |
merlin1991 | andre__: when I want to assign a bug to a bugtracker user, can I somehow get a list of them? | 23:35 |
merlin1991 | or do I have to knew the email addreses? | 23:35 |
merlin1991 | okay next up is bug #12047 | 23:35 |
povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12047 no more charging battery notification when phone is on | 23:35 |
freemangordon | merlin1991, do you have account on garage? | 23:35 |
merlin1991 | yes | 23:35 |
DocScrutinizer | (12031) it's a nice feature, if only it was implemented in a correct and comprehensive way | 23:36 |
freemangordon | because it have a nice project/team management interface | 23:36 |
DocScrutinizer | so don't nuke it, just exclude it from current releases until it riped some more | 23:36 |
freemangordon | could we use it for tasks assigment? | 23:36 |
merlin1991 | freemangordon: I never thought about that :D | 23:37 |
DocScrutinizer | WTF 12047?? | 23:37 |
merlin1991 | we'd need a cssu projekt in there first though, so I leave that as an exercise for the furute | 23:37 |
freemangordon | merlin1991 I think it could be very useful. | 23:37 |
merlin1991 | yeah | 23:38 |
merlin1991 | but just like the question of mag currantly out of scope ;) | 23:38 |
DocScrutinizer | BS, 12047 INVALID | 23:38 |
andre__ | not sure if I understand the bug in https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12031 at least I cannot reproduce here... | 23:38 |
povbot | Bug 12031: Zoom out (ctrl-shift-f) goes one step too far | 23:38 |
andre__ | merlin1991, you cannot easily get a list, no | 23:38 |
merlin1991 | andre__: actually I can't reproduce either | 23:39 |
andre__ | merlin1991, but you can type part of a name and it offers you an autocomplete list then | 23:39 |
andre__ | merlin1991, then let's close if two people cannot reproduce. I'm running testing by the way | 23:39 |
freemangordon | it should be ctrl-shift-f | 23:39 |
merlin1991 | got stable and testing in front of me :D | 23:39 |
andre__ | merlin1991, and if there is only one user matching it will take that one automatically | 23:39 |
DocScrutinizer | amber charge notification NEVER was enabled when screen on | 23:39 |
freemangordon | and I can reproduce it | 23:40 |
DocScrutinizer | close INVALID please | 23:40 |
freemangordon | DocScrutinizer, agree | 23:40 |
merlin1991 | yep invalid | 23:40 |
DocScrutinizer | tnx | 23:41 |
freemangordon | andre__, merlin1991, let me first remove redundant code before closing 12031 | 23:41 |
merlin1991 | btw andre__ I'm writing a list here as we go and will change the bugs afterwards | 23:41 |
merlin1991 | freemangordon: will do | 23:41 |
freemangordon | ok, afk for a cigarrete | 23:42 |
DocScrutinizer | I seem to recall I posted to tmo a hack to edit mce init so it shows charging-ind with screen on | 23:42 |
merlin1991 | okay next up bug #12052 | 23:42 |
povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12052 Orientation lock causes incoming call to not display properly | 23:42 |
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merlin1991 | wontfix due to closed source phone app I think | 23:42 |
arcean_ | merlin1991, without fixing Qt, it's wontfix | 23:43 |
DocScrutinizer | can't comment on that one | 23:43 |
DocScrutinizer | ;-) | 23:43 |
merlin1991 | yeah better not ;) | 23:43 |
arcean_ | merlin1991, we can fix it, with properly modifief qt | 23:43 |
DocScrutinizer | of course except WFM with may-rotate=no | 23:43 |
arcean_ | it's the same problem as with portrait orientation lock and Qt apps | 23:43 |
merlin1991 | is it really qt that is the problem or is it the phone app that listens to mce directly? | 23:44 |
arcean_ | merlin1991, we can override mce in h-d | 23:44 |
DocScrutinizer | I'd guess the latter | 23:44 |
arcean_ | but Qt should listen to h-d | 23:44 |
merlin1991 | but the phone still rotates regardless of the lock | 23:44 |
arcean_ | in September i have poc | 23:44 |
merlin1991 | only the buttons are fsckd | 23:44 |
arcean_ | *have had | 23:45 |
DocScrutinizer | dialer not Qt?? | 23:45 |
merlin1991 | so is it actually the qt problem or a dialer specific problem? | 23:45 |
merlin1991 | because if it's qt it should be new, otherwise wontfix | 23:45 |
DocScrutinizer | so how's dialer problem related to Qt anyway? | 23:45 |
arcean_ | the problem is | 23:46 |
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arcean_ | every app which requests portrait mode will stay in portrait despite of landscape lock | 23:46 |
merlin1991 | anybody with -testing who can do a quick check if it really stays? | 23:47 |
merlin1991 | because I remember that if you turned the phone it "rotated" | 23:47 |
arcean_ | maybe another way, we should lock to landscape only those apps which are not working ONLY in portrait | 23:47 |
arcean_ | and the problem is with Qt | 23:48 |
freemangordon | well, the phone app stays in landscape here | 23:48 |
arcean_ | Qt apps in portrait have REQUEST and SUPPORT portrait flags | 23:48 |
arcean_ | in landscape both flags are removed | 23:48 |
freemangordon | arcean_, leave Qt for a while please, it is another beer | 23:48 |
merlin1991 | arcean_: I still think the phone app was different | 23:48 |
merlin1991 | as in not qt related | 23:48 |
freemangordon | :nod: | 23:48 |
arcean_ | so h-d can check if the window has REQUEST flag, and leave it in portrait ddespite landscape lock | 23:49 |
DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: I git that gconf setting gui-may-rotate=false, and dialer set to portrait-always, and it only rotates to landscape when I open kbd slider, and WFM | 23:49 |
DocScrutinizer | s/git/got/ | 23:49 |
infobot | DocScrutinizer meant: merlin1991: I got that gconf setting gui-may-rotate=false, and dialer set to portrait-always, and it only rotates to landscape when I open kbd slider, and WFM | 23:49 |
freemangordon | arcean_, your latest h-d leaves phone app in landskape if locked | 23:49 |
merlin1991 | but one button is missing afaik | 23:49 |
merlin1991 | depending if it really is in landscape or if it is in portrait (the phone) | 23:50 |
arcean_ | freemangordon, nah, i'm not talking about this | 23:50 |
merlin1991 | but we are :D | 23:50 |
freemangordon | yeah, :D | 23:50 |
merlin1991 | so back to the dialer then, is that missing button something we can actually fix? | 23:51 |
arcean_ | what i'm talking about: we SHOULD lock to landscape only those apps which are not requesting protrait mode | 23:51 |
arcean_ | so, if dialer is set to run in portrait only, it will show in portrait | 23:51 |
DocScrutinizer | it does for me | 23:52 |
arcean_ | and the bug will be somehow fixed | 23:52 |
freemangordon | well, my dialer is set to portrait only, and stays in landscape when locked | 23:52 |
DocScrutinizer | I never use that friggin lock, I got gui-may-rotate=no | 23:52 |
arcean_ | freemangordon, yes, it's locked to landscape despite of REQUEST flag | 23:53 |
merlin1991 | basically I'm asking, confirmed(NEW) or WONTFIX | 23:53 |
arcean_ | which should be changed | 23:53 |
DocScrutinizer | wontfix is a nogo | 23:53 |
merlin1991 | new then | 23:53 |
freemangordon | arcean_, why? This is the purpose of the lock. | 23:53 |
arcean_ | freemangordon, why would you like to lock to landscape app which runs only in portrait? | 23:54 |
freemangordon | if you don't want apps to remain in only one direction, don't use the lock. | 23:54 |
DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: then the specs for the lock are flawed | 23:54 |
merlin1991 | lock should be reworked but we try to go over the buglist atm, so please lets get back to that | 23:54 |
DocScrutinizer | first rule of CSSU: stay compatible | 23:54 |
arcean_ | in my opinion orientation lock should check if the window requests portrait mode or not | 23:55 |
DocScrutinizer | so if dialer doesn't obey to lock, you have to implement your lock in a way it doesn't conflict with dialer | 23:55 |
freemangordon | DocScrutinizer, without the lock we are compatible, that is a new functionality | 23:55 |
freemangordon | But it does not, it behaves as if the keyboard is open | 23:55 |
merlin1991 | there are quite a few more bugs, can we move the whole discussion to a later point like tomorrow? | 23:55 |
freemangordon | and that is ok for me | 23:56 |
DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: where does CSSU "quality is paramount importance" say "new functionality may have bugs" | 23:56 |
DocScrutinizer | ? | 23:56 |
andre__ | sorry, I really got to go now, but I'll check the backlog :-( | 23:56 |
merlin1991 | bb andre__ | 23:56 |
DocScrutinizer | cya | 23:56 |
merlin1991 | I hoped you'd be still around when the security bugs come up you made | 23:56 |
arcean_ | merlin1991, I would say "confirmed" | 23:56 |
merlin1991 | k confirmed, next up bug #12056 | 23:57 |
povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12056 modest cant't write new messages with Nokia Messaging | 23:57 |
merlin1991 | wasn't nokia messaging closed? | 23:57 |
* merlin1991 darkly remembers something | 23:57 | |
merlin1991 | but I never used nokia messaging | 23:57 |
freemangordon | NFC what is that | 23:58 |
DocScrutinizer | close as WUT????? | 23:58 |
DocScrutinizer | ;-) | 23:58 |
merlin1991 | nobody who heard of it? :D | 23:58 |
merlin1991 | needinfo / wut then | 23:59 |
arcean_ | I remember Sc0rpius saying it's closed | 23:59 |
merlin1991 | btw anybody got an email of Sc0rpius | 23:59 |
merlin1991 | he's online all the time but never responds | 23:59 |
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