IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Wednesday, 2012-02-01

merlin1991wut?00:08
merlin1991phonelog.db fix?00:08
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DocScrutinizermerlin1991: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=4262409:36
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Lava_Croftheh nice fix12:54
Lava_Croftfinally12:54
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freemangordon_woMohammadAG,merlin1991: ping13:52
merlin1991freemangordon_wo: pong13:56
freemangordon_womerlin1991: What do wyou think about worldclock replacement in CSSU. The one  initially developed by cepi perez, it has a new maintainer and it seems the replacement works pretty well13:58
merlin1991I heaven't seen it myself yet14:03
merlin1991if it works 100% I see no reason not to include it, but it has to be at least feature complete to the current stock one14:03
Lava_Croftfreemangordon_wo: using worldclock replacement myself14:10
Lava_Crofti think there's still some small things left to do on it14:11
Lava_Croftit behaves different too, with for example one-time alarms14:11
freemangordon_woLava_Croft: according to ade that should be fixed in version to be ncluded in CSSU14:13
Lava_Croftnice14:13
freemangordon_womerlin1991: agree14:13
Lava_Croftwell, i love the replacement worldclock anyway14:13
freemangordon_woLava_Croft: any other known inconsistencies14:17
Lava_Croftwell, the bug i reported was fixed14:25
Lava_Crofthavent seen any other ones after that14:25
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aapoHi, seems there are happening *almost* realtime chat on TMO about 'adeclock'. Are participants in here, so we can continue with real realtime?18:06
merlin1991aapo: there seems to be no dicussion at all about adeclock in here :D18:27
merlin1991which is odd18:27
merlin1991because all the people who steer cssu are in here18:27
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aapook, time for discuss adeclock18:28
aapoI got it compiled from command line so it can be packed and pushed to the repository18:29
aapoShould I first test building on extras-devel?18:29
merlin1991that makes close to no sense18:30
freemangordon:nod:18:30
merlin1991since if it replaces clock-ui it can only be installed for cssu users and therefore should come from the cssu repo18:30
freemangordonaapo, where is the repo?18:30
freemangordonwith source code18:30
aaposo far, I fetch code from git and built locally18:31
aapoI will push it to the extras-devel asap18:31
merlin1991btw I wonder what ade meant with "the CSSU counsel"18:31
freemangordonwell, push it back somewhere so it can be pulled in CSSU18:31
freemangordonnfc18:31
freemangordonaapo, forget about extras-devel18:32
freemangordonance you package it you lose all commit history18:32
freemangordon*once18:32
merlin1991also what's there with shellscript wrapping?18:32
freemangordonmerlin1991, some nasty workaround18:33
aapofreemangordon, ok. I can make clone to gitorious for debian-folder18:33
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merlin1991where's the original repo?18:33
aapohttps://gitorious.org/osso-clock/18:34
freemangordonhttps://gitorious.org/osso-clock/18:34
freemangordonbeat me :D18:35
freemangordonaapo, do you have changes in you local git tree?18:35
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aapofreemangordon. no I haven't18:36
aapofor me, extras-devel is best way to check is debian-packaging made properly, including every build-dependencies18:37
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merlin1991aapo: why not just use a scratchbox?18:37
merlin1991also you can use dpkg-checkdeb or how it is called to check build-dependencies18:38
merlin1991and thirdly cssu doesn't use the autobuilder18:38
aapomerlin1991: because I have libraries installed already, and not sure which one is used18:38
aapomerlin1991, ok.  I though cssu uses autobuilder18:39
merlin1991-testing never did18:39
merlin1991I tried it with stable in order to have the process more open, but qt sources just refused to work on the autobuilder18:40
freemangordonaapo, maybe it is a good idea to do a diff and send the patch to ade for merging it to git tree18:42
aapofreemangordon, yes I can do it via gitorious18:43
freemangordondoes not matter, as long as history is kept18:43
* merlin1991 wonders how block select in vim worked again18:44
freemangordonmerlin1991, sorry for not keeping my promise re HAM, I saw Pali take that. Do you know is he going to re-work "problems" tab?18:44
merlin1991yes he said so18:44
mase_76is there any chance to disable rotation for the desktop only? the symbols and widgets are messed up when it rotates.18:46
merlin1991mase_76: you can disable the desktop rotation + launcher roatation18:46
merlin1991or you just fix your symbols18:46
merlin1991h-d stores 2 configurations for symbols + widgets18:47
freemangordonmase_76, widgets positions are separate for portrait and landscape, just edit their positions18:47
merlin1991so if you rearrange them in portrait it does not affect landscape18:47
mase_76ah! that was my next question.18:47
merlin1991it's just that there is no proper algorithm in place for the initial placement of the stuff in portrait18:47
freemangordonmerlin1991, any idea when the meeting is going to happen?18:49
merlin1991soo far it looks like we have the biggest chance on thursdays18:49
merlin1991since I'm out of town next week I suggest the 16th18:49
merlin1991but I still have no reply from Sc0rpius18:49
freemangordonhmm, I am in Rome on that day :D. Have no clue whether there will be wireless in the hotel.18:50
merlin1991most probably it will be 16th februar 21:00 UTC18:50
merlin1991damn :D18:50
merlin1991I guess I'll contact everyone with 16th and 23rd and pick the date where we get most people18:51
merlin1991so whatabout 23rd for you?18:51
freemangordonNP so far18:51
freemangordonmerlin1991, let me re-check when exactly i will be back18:52
merlin1991btw what are you doing in rome, holidays or business trip?18:52
freemangordonholiday18:52
freemangordonit is cold here :D18:52
merlin1991hehe18:53
merlin1991Rome is nice, I've been there twice18:53
mase_76freemangordon: thx! it worked!18:55
merlin1991freemangordon: the best pizza I had in rome was here: http://maps.google.at/maps?saddr=41.897603,12.479135&hl=de&ll=41.897426,12.478704&spn=0.003206,0.006968&sll=41.89761,12.47917&sspn=0.001603,0.003484&mra=mift&mrsp=0&sz=19&t=m&z=1818:55
freemangordonNever been there. And because there will be carnival in Venice during the same period while I will be in Rome I hope all bars there will work just for me :D18:55
merlin1991though that place is a takeaway and is only open at lunch times18:56
merlin1991but the pizza was incredible18:56
merlin1991about wifi, well both times I was there the hotel had none18:57
merlin1991but when you go out every second cafetria has wifi18:58
freemangordonyeah, I have experience with hotels in the UK, it is incredible how much they charge per hour. But at least there is wifi. TBH I don't get it. Here in Bulgaria almost every hotel and every cafe and bar has wifi at no charge.19:00
merlin1991in roms cafes and bars were that way, but hotels not19:00
merlin1991kinda weird19:00
freemangordonyeah19:01
merlin1991best thing regarding wifi so far I had in crete19:01
merlin1991hotel had really silly paysystem which you could easily cirumvent if you knew a mac addres of someone who had paid19:01
freemangordon:D19:01
merlin1991but the cafe around the corner had free wifi :P19:01
freemangordonwell, we have reaver by now ;)19:02
merlin1991well it worked differently there, it was an unencrypted wifi that had a mac filter for outgoing traffic19:02
merlin1991so if you snooped someons address who had paid you could connect using his mac and surf happily :P19:02
merlin1991ofc all that was done on the n900 :D19:03
freemangordonwell, it seems I am back in Sofi on 15th19:03
freemangordon*Sofia19:03
freemangordonthat was good to know :D19:04
merlin1991so you're actually at home on the 16th19:04
freemangordonyep19:04
freemangordonso, no problem on my side for 16th of February19:04
freemangordonbb for now, going to chase KP DSP bug19:05
merlin1991hf19:05
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_ade_Any direct questions about the replacement clock? Remember I am new here on IRC, so don't blame me if I don't do thinks by the book ;-)19:22
freemangordonmerlin1991 ^^^19:23
_ade_One thing that would be good in my opinion is to have the replacement clock within the CSSU git (like the replacement calculator of Pali)19:27
merlin1991hey _ade_19:33
merlin1991I heaven't seen the replacement clock so far19:33
merlin1991only got to know it about 3 days ago :P19:33
aapoade, I'm just writing/testing packeting for 'adeclock'. I made branch to gitorious and will push files there19:33
merlin1991btw about irc, irc is async, expect delays up to 14 hours to get an anwser :P19:34
_ade_merlin1991, what are the conditions for acceptation (visually). Would no background in portrait and seconds added in the clock be okay?19:36
Lava_Croft_ade_: cannot add some settings menu?19:37
Lava_Croftso a user can choose between options and you can default them to resemble stock worldclock19:37
_ade_has been discussed on talk.maemo.org a lot. I rather not have internationalization conflicts and the extra effort it will take me. Others can be free to add such options19:40
freemangordonDSP "bug" does not exist :)19:55
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merlin1991_ade_: seconds should not be a problem at all20:08
merlin1991no background in portrait is odd though20:09
merlin1991and should be fixable20:09
aapomerlin1991: issue is that refreshing seconds with background cause also background refressed, and that is taking 10% CPU20:10
freemangordonaapo, why is that?20:10
freemangordonyou should not redraw the whole background to have some text changed20:11
merlin1991aapo that is odd20:11
aapoMaybe it is qt's way to refresh full screen20:11
aapoI haven't yet read the code, just compiled it20:11
freemangordonno, that is for sure,20:11
_ade_The text is just updated on the background, no full redraw afaik20:12
merlin1991btw why does it work in landscape then?20:12
freemangordongood question20:12
freemangordoncould it be because actually there is no background in portrait?20:13
_ade_No, some misunderstanding. There was never a background in portrait (should be rotated or so)20:13
_ade_The issue is updating with seconds in landscape with background on20:14
freemangordonaah, ok20:14
aapoade, where in code that drawing is done?20:14
_ade_in mainwindow.cpp20:14
_ade_just a ui->label->setText(new time)20:15
freemangordonwell, better focus on packaging, once in CSSU git tree I am sure me and maybe Pali will join the "clean the mess" patry :)20:15
freemangordon*party20:16
merlin1991well we can't have the drawind issue, but no background is no option either20:16
_ade_I think there will be a lot of cleaning needed taking my skills in account ;-)20:16
freemangordonmerlin1991, have in mind that there will be a lot of cleanup20:17
aapofreemangordon, I made first attempt already. I'm just compiling gcc and binutils and my computer is running hot, it took 72minutes to make adeclock.deb20:17
merlin1991aapo why do you use sb2?20:17
aapomerlin1991, I like it more20:17
freemangordonwhere is the repo, I have 4 Phantom cores here sitting in idle :p20:17
merlin1991whenever I search sb2 there are close to no docs20:18
aapoAnother computer has sb1 with harmattan-target and I'm trying to like it too20:18
merlin1991why don't you simply add the fremantle target?20:18
aapoI tried some wacky with sb1 and didn't get them working, even they work on sb2, like free pascal compiler and ARM-qmake20:19
freemangordonaapo, while waiting package build to finish - any progress on gcc 4.6.2?20:19
aapoI picked gcc-4.6.1 because I got packaging from Ubuntu-11.10 (which I'm using)20:20
aapoCurrently it is running gcc.c-torture -tests, so seems it is working20:21
aapook, package removes clock-ui and put own binary to the /usr/bin/worldclock and it can be started from terminal. But clicking on panel-applet will not start it. Should there be same service files what clock-ui uses?20:26
_ade_don't think so. Is it executable?20:27
_ade_sorry, you say it can be started from terminal20:28
aapoade, when you have /usr/bin/worldclock replacent do you still have e.g. file /usr/share/dbus-1/services/com.nokia.worldclock.service ?20:29
_ade_I just replace the /usr/bin/worldclock file with the new executable. Not seen issues with start menu launch20:30
aapoOk, and now they are removed because of uninstalling clock-ui20:31
_ade_that's the problem alright20:32
aapoyes, added it and now it starts. I add it to the package20:33
aapoade, you know that stock clock-ui has worldclock symlinked to the maemo-invoker which (some how) then calls /usr/bin/worldclock.launch . It is also wrapped!20:43
_ade_Technically you are right about that. But a QT app should be about to run standalone...20:45
_ade_* be able to run20:46
amiconnfreemangordon: Regarding icon and widget positions for both desktop orientations - that doesn't help if a widget is simply too wide to fit in portrait mode. That's the case for me with omweather20:46
_ade_aapo, thanks for the packaging effort so far, I'm leaving the room now20:54
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merlin1991hm I'm starting to get slightly brainfucked, but it was Sc0rpius who hacked on modest, right?20:56
freemangordonas far as I remember, yes21:00
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