IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Tuesday, 2012-01-31

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Palimerlin1991, DocScrutinizer, see https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-hildon-application-manager/commit/f947268d854d90b22c9f5b0ca35cc5bb49dca83d00:59
merlin1991Pali: where can one set that interval?01:02
Palivia gconf01:02
Palishould be: gconftool-2 -t int -s /apps/hildon/update-notifier/check-interval <minutes>01:04
PaliI need to know if somebody else can reproduce that stupid bug01:05
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Palisorry correct is: gconftool -t int -s /apps/hildon/update-notifier/check_interval <minutes>01:06
Palimerlin1991: can you try to reproduce that bug (with default HAM)? I need to know if this is really bug01:07
Paliset interval to very big number: 214748364701:08
Paliand try to install, uninstall or update packages01:08
Paliand what do you think about enabling red pill mode in HAM UI again?01:13
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merlin1991I never saw red pill mode, what is it?01:44
merlin1991btw if you're hacking on ham it would be perfect if you could do a patch to get red of the pc-suite warning and display the real error instead01:47
merlin1991Pali: ^^01:47
Paliyes, this stupid message is on my list :D01:48
Palibut I do not have (still) scratchbox installed01:48
merlin1991Pali: yeah setting the interval to that value leads to constatnt update checks01:54
merlin1991Pali: what would the defualt value be?01:54
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Palinot remember, but interval is in minutes02:01
Paliso if you want to run apt-get update every day set it to 60*24*202:02
amiconnWhy *2 ?02:37
Palisorry every two days :-)02:41
DocScrutinizerI think there's been an issue with too large intervals though - either gconf or ham doesn't handle all the range to MAXINT(32)03:06
Paliyes, problem in HAM03:07
DocScrutinizerso setting this interval to something "reasonable" like e.g 60*24*700 is probably the better choice03:07
Palisee my patch which fixing it03:07
PaliDocScrutinizer, if I read some data from file desc, it is possible to simulate push data back (to buffer) and when I use read() again it will return that pushed data?03:11
Palisomething like ungetc?03:14
Paliwow red pill mode working :-)03:42
Palihttps://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-hildon-application-manager/commit/81a425da2cd77b02d6b9c45ae32881a522d1d52903:42
Palithis patch should be for developers enabled in CSSU!03:42
Palithen in HAM you can enable e.g. option "Show all packages"03:43
Palinot only packages in user/ section03:43
Palimerlin1991, DocScrutinizer, see ^^^03:44
merlin1991Pali: why didn't you tie it to the r&d mode?03:54
Palir&d mode checking is done via CAL03:55
merlin1991also how does it work?03:55
Paliwhat CAL?03:55
merlin1991nah red pill mode for ham03:55
PaliRed Pill Mode is on wiki: http://wiki.maemo.org/Red_Pill_mode03:56
Paliit was enabled in Diablo, but nokia decided to remove this usefull mode03:56
Paliwhen you enable Red Pill mode, you can see new "Option" button in menu03:57
Paliand here you can configure for example "Show all packages" or "Use MMC for downloading packages"03:58
Paliisn't this usefull?03:58
merlin1991I didn't even know it existed :P03:59
Paliyes, because nokia deleted this feature, thanks to git we have history :-)04:01
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merlin1991silly irc servers dropping my connection :/05:45
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MohammadAGmerlin1991, ping16:09
MohammadAG<Pali> it was enabled in Diablo, but nokia decided to remove this usefull mode16:09
MohammadAGit was in Fremantle PR1.016:10
MohammadAGand PR1.1 I think16:10
MohammadAGor actually I Think it was removed in 1.216:10
MohammadAGanyway it was there for quite some time16:10
MohammadAGI still use it by manually editing the config in ~16:10
Paliok16:10
PaliI think that this is good feature, could it be enabled in CSSU?16:11
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merlin1991MohammadAG: pong16:12
MohammadAGPali, it was disabled for the Ovi Store because paid packages were in the repos16:16
MohammadAGafter someone pointed out they could be installed through apt they disabled apt16:16
MohammadAGthen a month later they started hosting debs on a standalone non-repo server16:16
MohammadAGso yes, it can be reversed16:16
MohammadAGmerlin1991, https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1246316:17
povbot`Bug 12463: transitions.ini got corrupt16:17
Paliok16:17
MohammadAGI'm blaming CPU patch and overclocking16:17
merlin1991yeah I have nfc how it could happen otherwise16:17
merlin1991we *never* write to the ini16:17
MohammadAGmanually no16:19
MohammadAGit's part of hildon-desktop, but if the package corrupted it then dpkg is fucked16:20
MohammadAGbut since dpkg works fine on Debian, it's filesystem corruption due to overclocking16:20
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, want to have your say on the bug report?16:20
MohammadAGbecause it made its way to the wiki16:20
MohammadAGmerlin1991, http://wiki.maemo.org/CSSU#QA_and_bugs16:20
MohammadAGthat should be removed right?16:21
MohammadAGactually remove it, I'll have my say on the bug16:21
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DocScrutinizerWUT? we had a meeting?20:51
DocScrutinizerat 15:oo  CET? that'S insane20:51
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, we did?20:54
MohammadAGwe didn't afaik20:54
DocScrutinizerlooked to me like20:54
DocScrutinizerlots of traffic, even MohammadAG, and discussing bugs20:55
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, I looked at tmo, found the banner, clicked it, reviewed the wiki, and found someone talking about a bug by editing the page20:56
DocScrutinizerwhat's tmo?20:56
MohammadAGthat page we used to use to have proper discussions :p20:57
DocScrutinizerbut never succeded in actually having any? aaah that one, yeah I recall20:57
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DocScrutinizerMEH which banner?20:59
DocScrutinizerthe one that's not visible when you select a sane theme? like --classic light21:00
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DocScrutinizerjust the mention it before I forget about it again: what's with this phonelog.db fix?21:39
DocScrutinizershould go into cssu, no?21:40
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