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| Pali | merlin1991, DocScrutinizer, see https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-hildon-application-manager/commit/f947268d854d90b22c9f5b0ca35cc5bb49dca83d | 00:59 | 
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| merlin1991 | Pali: where can one set that interval? | 01:02 | 
| Pali | via gconf | 01:02 | 
| Pali | should be: gconftool-2 -t int -s /apps/hildon/update-notifier/check-interval <minutes> | 01:04 | 
| Pali | I need to know if somebody else can reproduce that stupid bug | 01:05 | 
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| Pali | sorry correct is: gconftool -t int -s /apps/hildon/update-notifier/check_interval <minutes> | 01:06 | 
| Pali | merlin1991: can you try to reproduce that bug (with default HAM)? I need to know if this is really bug | 01:07 | 
| Pali | set interval to very big number: 2147483647 | 01:08 | 
| Pali | and try to install, uninstall or update packages | 01:08 | 
| Pali | and what do you think about enabling red pill mode in HAM UI again? | 01:13 | 
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| merlin1991 | I never saw red pill mode, what is it? | 01:44 | 
| merlin1991 | btw if you're hacking on ham it would be perfect if you could do a patch to get red of the pc-suite warning and display the real error instead | 01:47 | 
| merlin1991 | Pali: ^^ | 01:47 | 
| Pali | yes, this stupid message is on my list :D | 01:48 | 
| Pali | but I do not have (still) scratchbox installed | 01:48 | 
| merlin1991 | Pali: yeah setting the interval to that value leads to constatnt update checks | 01:54 | 
| merlin1991 | Pali: what would the defualt value be? | 01:54 | 
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| Pali | not remember, but interval is in minutes | 02:01 | 
| Pali | so if you want to run apt-get update every day set it to 60*24*2 | 02:02 | 
| amiconn | Why *2 ? | 02:37 | 
| Pali | sorry every two days :-) | 02:41 | 
| DocScrutinizer | I think there's been an issue with too large intervals though - either gconf or ham doesn't handle all the range to MAXINT(32) | 03:06 | 
| Pali | yes, problem in HAM | 03:07 | 
| DocScrutinizer | so setting this interval to something "reasonable" like e.g 60*24*700 is probably the better choice | 03:07 | 
| Pali | see my patch which fixing it | 03:07 | 
| Pali | DocScrutinizer, if I read some data from file desc, it is possible to simulate push data back (to buffer) and when I use read() again it will return that pushed data? | 03:11 | 
| Pali | something like ungetc? | 03:14 | 
| Pali | wow red pill mode working :-) | 03:42 | 
| Pali | https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-hildon-application-manager/commit/81a425da2cd77b02d6b9c45ae32881a522d1d529 | 03:42 | 
| Pali | this patch should be for developers enabled in CSSU! | 03:42 | 
| Pali | then in HAM you can enable e.g. option "Show all packages" | 03:43 | 
| Pali | not only packages in user/ section | 03:43 | 
| Pali | merlin1991, DocScrutinizer, see ^^^ | 03:44 | 
| merlin1991 | Pali: why didn't you tie it to the r&d mode? | 03:54 | 
| Pali | r&d mode checking is done via CAL | 03:55 | 
| merlin1991 | also how does it work? | 03:55 | 
| Pali | what CAL? | 03:55 | 
| merlin1991 | nah red pill mode for ham | 03:55 | 
| Pali | Red Pill Mode is on wiki: http://wiki.maemo.org/Red_Pill_mode | 03:56 | 
| Pali | it was enabled in Diablo, but nokia decided to remove this usefull mode | 03:56 | 
| Pali | when you enable Red Pill mode, you can see new "Option" button in menu | 03:57 | 
| Pali | and here you can configure for example "Show all packages" or "Use MMC for downloading packages" | 03:58 | 
| Pali | isn't this usefull? | 03:58 | 
| merlin1991 | I didn't even know it existed :P | 03:59 | 
| Pali | yes, because nokia deleted this feature, thanks to git we have history :-) | 04:01 | 
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| merlin1991 | silly irc servers dropping my connection :/ | 05:45 | 
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| MohammadAG | merlin1991, ping | 16:09 | 
| MohammadAG | <Pali> it was enabled in Diablo, but nokia decided to remove this usefull mode | 16:09 | 
| MohammadAG | it was in Fremantle PR1.0 | 16:10 | 
| MohammadAG | and PR1.1 I think | 16:10 | 
| MohammadAG | or actually I Think it was removed in 1.2 | 16:10 | 
| MohammadAG | anyway it was there for quite some time | 16:10 | 
| MohammadAG | I still use it by manually editing the config in ~ | 16:10 | 
| Pali | ok | 16:10 | 
| Pali | I think that this is good feature, could it be enabled in CSSU? | 16:11 | 
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| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: pong | 16:12 | 
| MohammadAG | Pali, it was disabled for the Ovi Store because paid packages were in the repos | 16:16 | 
| MohammadAG | after someone pointed out they could be installed through apt they disabled apt | 16:16 | 
| MohammadAG | then a month later they started hosting debs on a standalone non-repo server | 16:16 | 
| MohammadAG | so yes, it can be reversed | 16:16 | 
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12463 | 16:17 | 
| povbot` | Bug 12463: transitions.ini got corrupt | 16:17 | 
| Pali | ok | 16:17 | 
| MohammadAG | I'm blaming CPU patch and overclocking | 16:17 | 
| merlin1991 | yeah I have nfc how it could happen otherwise | 16:17 | 
| merlin1991 | we *never* write to the ini | 16:17 | 
| MohammadAG | manually no | 16:19 | 
| MohammadAG | it's part of hildon-desktop, but if the package corrupted it then dpkg is fucked | 16:20 | 
| MohammadAG | but since dpkg works fine on Debian, it's filesystem corruption due to overclocking | 16:20 | 
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, want to have your say on the bug report? | 16:20 | 
| MohammadAG | because it made its way to the wiki | 16:20 | 
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, http://wiki.maemo.org/CSSU#QA_and_bugs | 16:20 | 
| MohammadAG | that should be removed right? | 16:21 | 
| MohammadAG | actually remove it, I'll have my say on the bug | 16:21 | 
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| DocScrutinizer | WUT? we had a meeting? | 20:51 | 
| DocScrutinizer | at 15:oo CET? that'S insane | 20:51 | 
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, we did? | 20:54 | 
| MohammadAG | we didn't afaik | 20:54 | 
| DocScrutinizer | looked to me like | 20:54 | 
| DocScrutinizer | lots of traffic, even MohammadAG, and discussing bugs | 20:55 | 
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, I looked at tmo, found the banner, clicked it, reviewed the wiki, and found someone talking about a bug by editing the page | 20:56 | 
| DocScrutinizer | what's tmo? | 20:56 | 
| MohammadAG | that page we used to use to have proper discussions :p | 20:57 | 
| DocScrutinizer | but never succeded in actually having any? aaah that one, yeah I recall | 20:57 | 
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| DocScrutinizer | MEH which banner? | 20:59 | 
| DocScrutinizer | the one that's not visible when you select a sane theme? like --classic light | 21:00 | 
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| DocScrutinizer | just the mention it before I forget about it again: what's with this phonelog.db fix? | 21:39 | 
| DocScrutinizer | should go into cssu, no? | 21:40 | 
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