IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Sunday, 2011-11-06

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amiconn[13:48:09] <merlin1991> Lava_Croft: it partly is apts fault, apt decides from time to time that manually installed apps should be autoremoved <== I've never seen that happen with desktop 'apt'01:03
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amiconn[19:33:01] <Lava_Croft> you want irssi with a seperate window for hilights >_> <== No, you want a client with unlimited scrollback :P01:08
Lava_Crofta hilight window seems handier:)01:08
Lava_Croft(yes, i know its useless without any scrollback context01:09
amiconnYou can have that as well01:09
amiconn(plus backlog search, albeit using an additional tool)01:10
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DocScrutinizera linking from those highlight catch window posts to the according chan backscroll would be extremely cool. Click on the line in one window, irc client jumps to the chan window and to the right line there02:22
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merlin1991MohammadAG: ping04:28
DocScrutinizerLOL @ 520: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67905&page=52004:54
DocScrutinizer5200+ posts04:55
merlin1991yeah04:55
merlin1991looking @ http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1117695&postcount=5191 I suggest we write a patch to remove that goddamn warning and display the eror directly instead04:56
* merlin1991 is getting tired of repeated wtf pc-suit? questions04:56
merlin1991that warning is all fine in a non-cssu world but with the cssu it makes no sense04:57
merlin1991and of it spreads fud about what one has todo actually04:57
merlin1991s/of/ofc/04:58
merlin1991DocScrutinizer: what do you think about MohammadAGs suggestion to distinct cssu versions (stable / testing / devel) via epoch?05:00
merlin1991imo that's not needed since a change from stable -> testing will always be an upgrade like you also stated in the tmo thread05:00
DocScrutinizerstable -> testing *should* be possible05:01
DocScrutinizerit's the opposite direction that seems to give headache05:02
DocScrutinizerand I confess I have no clue what's epoch here05:02
merlin1991epoch is the part of a debian package before any :05:04
merlin1991a newer epoch always means newer version05:04
merlin1991so 1:5.6.8 is < than 2:0.0.105:04
DocScrutinizerobvious05:04
DocScrutinizerand what's moh's plan now?05:05
merlin1991[18:42:45] <MohammadAG> I'm thinking of raising testing epoch to 2:05:05
merlin1991[18:42:51] <MohammadAG> Stable will be 1:05:05
merlin1991[18:42:56] <MohammadAG> Devel will be 3:05:05
DocScrutinizerumm05:05
merlin1991tbh I don't think that's such a great idea since that would make the even big headache of testing -> stable bigger05:06
DocScrutinizerthere's NO way of T->S05:06
merlin1991yeah that's my problem with it too05:06
DocScrutinizerand the other way is rather natural aiui as T always newer than S05:07
DocScrutinizerrev.wise05:07
merlin1991btw are you willing to test the stable enabler when it's done?05:08
DocScrutinizerI knew somebody would ask me this :-S05:08
merlin1991I think I can get it running tomorrow05:08
DocScrutinizerI'm still searching for an excuse05:08
merlin1991perfect05:08
merlin1991so I just have to finish in time before you find an excuse :P05:08
DocScrutinizerwell, maybe it's time to give BM a *real* test, finally05:09
merlin1991BM?05:10
DocScrutinizerbackupmenu05:10
DocScrutinizer(epoch) rolls up my footnails05:11
DocScrutinizerand I don't see the purpose at all05:11
merlin1991we agree there :P05:12
DocScrutinizerI *could* see a bit of purpose if it were the other way round05:12
DocScrutinizerso no matter how new the bleeding edge version, the S version always is "newer"05:13
DocScrutinizeraccording to epoch05:13
DocScrutinizerbut honestly I think S/T/X are mutually exclusive repos05:14
merlin1991that is my approach to it too05:14
merlin1991gotta love the flaming on /. win font parsing article05:15
DocScrutinizer??05:15
DocScrutinizerthis friggin N9 is so sleak and shiny, I almost might start to love it a bit05:16
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merlin1991one of the newest /. "articles" is about a zero day vulnerability in win used by Duqu wich comes from the fact that font parsing is done in kernel mode05:17
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DocScrutinizeraaah, I already posted warnings05:17
DocScrutinizeralso on #maemo iirc05:17
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merlin1991tbh I wonder why nobody comented OLD on it though, I've heard about that problem in a lecture about 1 year ago :D05:18
* DocScrutinizer gets amazed while checking the "NOKIA | Carl Zeiss" gravure at back of N9 - looks like lasered05:21
merlin1991did you get your hostmode test unit, or did you buy one?05:21
merlin1991also that metal part of the n9 is a design fail05:22
DocScrutinizerbut lasering a mirror polished steel(?) plate ~0.5mm deep???05:22
DocScrutinizerhm-t unit05:22
merlin1991it's the ONLY part that can easily get visible scratches and ofc it is elevated05:23
DocScrutinizerindeed, it's feeling like shit to the fingertips05:23
merlin1991gues wich part of my n9 got 10 billion scratches :D05:23
DocScrutinizerof course it has a function: mirror to take shots of yourself05:24
merlin1991gorilla glass on the front, but scratch prone elevted metal on the back, lol05:24
merlin1991so how did you get your n9?05:24
DocScrutinizerper DHL?05:24
merlin1991lmao, I meant did you buy it or is it the hostmode research device?05:25
DocScrutinizerhm-t unit05:25
merlin1991ah now that line starts to make sense05:25
merlin1991my brain simply did filter that line out when you wrote it earlier :D05:26
DocScrutinizerhttp://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=34439&postcount=2105:26
merlin1991I should check meego forums more often, same goes for tmo05:27
merlin1991are you planning on swtiching from your n900?05:28
DocScrutinizerHAH I found the 2 screws to disassemble N905:28
merlin1991I just found a serious wtf05:29
merlin1991the powerbutton does start focusing when pressed in the camera app05:29
merlin1991but if you hold it too long device powers off, lmao05:29
DocScrutinizerswitch from N900? no way!05:31
merlin1991I did cut my sim to fit the microsim slot, no way to go back for me :)05:32
merlin1991but I also use the n9 like a phone, and still use the n900 like before :D05:32
merlin1991n900 for me was/is a gadget with phone capabilities for me while n9 is a phone wich might in the future turn into a useful gadget too05:33
merlin1991I don't really want to mess too much with my n9 tbh since I have no firmware images to flash in case I aegis brick it :/05:34
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DocScrutinizerthe calculator is braindamaged - tap and hold  a digit, slide away and back on the digit05:52
DocScrutinizerHAHA quicklauncher broken05:54
merlin1991oO?05:54
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DocScrutinizermerlin1991: no more quicklauncher05:55
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DocScrutinizerI didn't install *anything* yet, just flipped a few settings bits05:56
merlin1991btw the swipe down to close settings is really usefull :)05:56
merlin1991it's in phone->display05:57
DocScrutinizeryes. and was the first thing I just disabled 10s ago as I thought it conflicts maybe05:57
DocScrutinizerreboot fixed it :-o05:58
DocScrutinizerbtw no more boot melody?06:00
DocScrutinizerOK it's broken again06:01
merlin1991random or reproduceable=?06:01
DocScrutinizerswitched slide-down back on, and held vol+ during boot06:02
merlin1991and yeah seems like no more boot melody06:02
merlin1991but you do get a melody just before it finished loading06:02
DocScrutinizeraah, now I got boot melody as I didn't hold vol+?06:02
DocScrutinizerreboot without vol+ held down -> woks again06:03
DocScrutinizershit, now it works with vol+ held down during boot06:06
merlin1991btw there's 1 must have on the ovi store, pinball fantasies, just like the cracked version for dos I used to play :P06:06
merlin1991stones & bones table ftw06:08
DocScrutinizermeh, a random bug06:09
DocScrutinizer(or I'm not able to figure what triggers it)06:09
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merlin1991MohammadAG: ping19:04
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