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| DocScrutinizer | hah, no infobot here | 15:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | I could change this, on public demand - if there's any such demand | 15:40 |
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| jonwil | neither of the people I want to talk to seem to be around in any case | 15:55 |
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| merlin1991 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PBAP <-- we should consider contacitng the devs to inlcude this to cssu | 18:41 |
| merlin1991 | it's an obvious case for a software update that makes sense | 18:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | does it need replacement of system libs or daemons, or changes to system config so the system can't work anymore with the stock configured components? | 18:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | (which the latter one afain would need replacement of stock components to make them work with the new system config) | 18:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | if not, then I do't think it couldn't get deployed via extras(-devel) repo and thus wouldn't qualify for inclusion to CSSU | 18:53 |
| merlin1991 | it needs to replace obexd | 18:53 |
| merlin1991 | wich is a system deamon | 18:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | ok, fair enogh | 18:53 |
| merlin1991 | it's basically an update for obexd to newer upstream source | 18:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 18:54 |
| merlin1991 | wich enables transfer of phone library ... on a lot of car-kits | 18:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | straight candidate for CSSU then | 18:54 |
| merlin1991 | I just hate it that that wasn't working with n900, and it doesn't work again on the n9 | 18:55 |
| * merlin1991 wonders why the bluetooth software stack on maemo and meego is in sucha bad shape | 18:55 | |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: ping | 18:57 |
| merlin1991 | http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/mp-fremantle-community-pr/blobs/master/debian/changelog#line15 was a fix in qt? | 18:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | btw regarding all the "nice to have improvements / app that don't qualify for CSSU" (like nicocam), I had the idea to publish a system backup app backup-file that has all the "recommended apps" not included in CSSU. You could download the backup and "restore" it, even select which apps/applets/whatever you want or reject | 18:57 |
| * merlin1991 has no clue how the backup app works actually, never tried it | 18:59 | |
| DocScrutinizer | it's just using HAM to install a list of apps, and you can [un]checkmark each single app prior to the restore process | 19:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | so basically it's like a giant install file | 19:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | that also includes some tar'd config files etc | 19:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | so this restore is like a nifty options-dialog for "augmented functions recommended and tested by XXX (CSSU-team, whatever)" | 19:06 |
| merlin1991 | sry, for some reason I thought you meant backup-menu | 19:06 |
| merlin1991 | the backup app I know | 19:06 |
| merlin1991 | actually been extracting data from some backups by hand :D | 19:07 |
| merlin1991 | and I still wonder how an application marks it's config files for backup because I know that xchat settings ended up in the backup files | 19:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | restore of a "clean fresh" system from a publicly available backup.tgz seems the right thing to do | 19:07 |
| merlin1991 | but doesn't the backup normally include the sources.list too? | 19:08 |
| merlin1991 | you'd possibly break setups of other users, or can you exclude it and still have the backup working? | 19:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | (how X marks...) some entry in some setting file(s) in /etc/<backup-app-config>/* | 19:08 |
| MohammadAG | you pinged? | 19:09 |
| merlin1991 | <merlin1991> http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/mp-fremantle-community-pr/blobs/master/debian/changelog#line15 was a fix in qt? | 19:09 |
| merlin1991 | besides that changelog is in order again | 19:09 |
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| MohammadAG | merlin1991, paste the line? on wG | 19:10 |
| MohammadAG | 2G | 19:10 |
| merlin1991 | * Segfaults in apps like marble fixed. | 19:10 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, yes | 19:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | ls -l /etc/osso-backup | 19:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | less /etc/osso-backup/applications/xchat.conf | 19:12 |
| merlin1991 | whatabout sources.list though? | 19:12 |
| merlin1991 | if it works the idea is defenitely nice | 19:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | wtf is sources.list? | 19:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | some apt stuff? | 19:13 |
| merlin1991 | afaik back application also restores /etc/apt/sources.list | 19:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | the repo list? afaik it just adds repos needed to fetch app pkgs | 19:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | which seems reasonable as you can't install foobar without having the repo in sources.list where foobar lives | 19:15 |
| merlin1991 | we have to try that though, i'm not usre if it adds, or simply replaces | 19:15 |
| merlin1991 | I somehow got the feeling that it just brings the repo list with the backup and just replaces | 19:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | nevr heard of a bug report like that | 19:15 |
| merlin1991 | I'm simply saying we should do such a backup and the cross check if it breaks anything on installing it, or does only what we want | 19:16 |
| merlin1991 | s/and the/and then/ | 19:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure we shouldn't publish such a thing without testing it thoroughly ;-P | 19:17 |
| merlin1991 | I guess it's time I'll reflash my n900 then | 19:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | for testing that source.list stuff? really not needed | 19:20 |
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| merlin1991 | it is, I added the cssu to the hildon-app-manager specific catalogue file in a way that is not the default cssu way | 19:20 |
| merlin1991 | so if I test I can't tell if sources.list works fine because I did crazy stuff or because backup app is just fine :D | 19:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | just add a rage repo (opera? firefox?) and do a backup of that app (and all apps). Then remove that rare repo as well as testing and devel repo, and restore just that one app from that rare repo. Your sources.list should have rare-repo then after restore, but no testing and devel repo enabled | 19:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | rs/rage/rare/ | 19:23 |
| merlin1991 | I'll give it some testing and will come back with my results | 19:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | :-) | 19:24 |
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