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| freemangordon | MohammaAG look here http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1084756&postcount=33 and https://gitorious.org/maemo-5-certificate-manager | 11:07 |
| freemangordon | MohammadAG ^ | 11:12 |
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| MohammadAG | tell me there's going to be a PR1.4 just for that | 12:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: why does maemo5 community SSU package 16.5 show up as update while I got the CSSU repo disabled? | 12:03 |
| MohammadAG | freemangordon, i'll pull it in | 12:05 |
| freemangordon | MohammadAG I don't believe there will be, but who knows | 12:05 |
| freemangordon | Hm, maybe it is better to wait for a while | 12:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | (enabled repo as there were a zillion pkgs missing so "problems on update, please use PCsuite". Now I disable it again to watch what catalog it actually comes from then) | 12:06 |
| RST38h | Doc: Probably disabled it in the wrong place | 12:06 |
| freemangordon | it seems the author is communicating with Nokia, on TMO thread he said he will sena d message to council when Nokia's position is clear | 12:06 |
| RST38h | And use apt-get | 12:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | ok, here we go | 12:07 |
| freemangordon | WOW, DocScrutinizer is installing CSSU :P | 12:08 |
| RST38h | the world will end | 12:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | hah, no "here we go" - it doesn't show the source :-( | 12:08 |
| freemangordon | MohammadAG did you see my latest MR re QT segfaulting? | 12:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | summary: "for installing this pkg you need to use Nokia PC-Suite... bla bla" KTNX - problems: "update not possible. missing pkgs: <zillion> [[actually all that's from CSSU catalog I guess]]" | 12:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | so how the fsck can maemo 5 community SSU Package show up in HAM as update, while CSSU catalog is disabled?? | 12:11 |
| MohammadAG | it won't | 12:12 |
| freemangordon | seems like mp-fremantle-community pr is still in devel repo | 12:12 |
| MohammadAG | X-Fade, ... | 12:12 |
| freemangordon | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7ihjV3_wQo :P | 12:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: it *does* here | 12:16 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, yeah, honest mistake | 12:17 |
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| MohammadAG | I wish X-Fade would reply to my pings | 12:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: seems like a possible explanation (alas HAM doesn't think it's necessary to tell where from the pkg came, when there are problems) | 12:18 |
| freemangordon | It is not only possible, that is what happens | 12:18 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, I forgot community-ssu when uploading | 12:19 |
| amiconn | meh | 12:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: I'm confident in BM, that's all ;-P | 12:19 |
| * amiconn wants desktop to stay in landscape mode *without* blocking autorotation for other apps | 12:19 | |
| MohammadAG | set gconf value to true? | 12:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | friggin portrait mode support | 12:20 |
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| MohammadAG | haters gonna hate | 12:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | no, it's just breaking UX compatibility, as there seems no way to configure the whole thing so it behaves like stock | 12:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | not to talk about making this the default when shipping | 12:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | CSSU is way to arrogant with forcing new stuff to user, even if the user maybe doesn't want that new stuff. Same for portrait mode as for camera etc | 12:24 |
| amiconn | My main grief about it is that it doesn't improve anything (for me), but in turn looks bad. Wallpapers don't fit when flipping screens, and large widgets are cut off (OMWeather...) | 12:26 |
| amiconn | In some apps I do want autorotate though (phone app, image viewer) | 12:26 |
| * andre__ continously mumbles "it's in testing stage, it's in testing stage" | 12:26 | |
| PeterPark | you can still switch it off..I love it! | 12:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | andre__: BS | 12:27 |
| PeterPark | however the wallpaper issue is difficult | 12:27 |
| andre__ | DocScrutinizer, SW | 12:27 |
| PeterPark | how does andriod/ios solve this? | 12:27 |
| amiconn | PeterPark: how? | 12:29 |
| amiconn | (switch it off) | 12:29 |
| MohammadAG | PeterPark, Android/iOS are locked to portrait in homescreen/areas where the wallpaper is | 12:30 |
| MohammadAG | who else can edit the repos? besides X-Fade | 12:31 |
| PeterPark | MohammadAG, aha thanks for the answer | 12:32 |
| PeterPark | a small question (and no complaint): | 12:35 |
| PeterPark | It "feels" that CSSU is somewhat slower on starting applications? At least this was my impression. I never did any benchmarks, also I think device is getting slower on long uptimes. I had 21 days of uptime and ovi maps started in 90 seconds after reboot it starts very fast again (45 sec) | 12:35 |
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| MohammadAG | I would test, but I've only got an uptime of 2 days at most | 12:36 |
| PeterPark | ;) | 12:37 |
| PeterPark | I really appreciate the work, guys, thumbs up! | 12:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | device sits flat on my desk, left to my laptop, showing HAM-"catalogs". I'm grabbing it with my left hand and lift it up a bit to look at the screen... screen rotates to *portrait mode* as I slightly tilted the device to the right to better look at it (max 30°). That's not excusable by "testing mode, testing mode" | 12:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | >:-( | 12:39 |
| psycho_oreos | there's a blacklist option :) | 12:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | then FUCKING SHIP IT with a blacklist set up so UX meets that of stock!!! | 12:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/mode/stage/g | 12:42 |
| psycho_oreos | some programs works alright in portrait mode, so if you have blacklist setup to block all the usual landscaped programs which can also do pretty decent in portrait will be locked as landscape only | 12:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | so what? | 12:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's a blacklist! | 12:43 |
| andre__ | DocScrutinizer, so edit it. what's your issue? | 12:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | you're free to edit it to *enable* portrait mode | 12:43 |
| andre__ | you could have done that already instead of bitching around | 12:43 |
| psycho_oreos | its going stir up tmo :) some users already like certain stock programs to have portrait capability | 12:43 |
| psycho_oreos | it goes either way, you could have it setup that users could go adjust the blacklist to their own taste or you could set it up in the opposite way where people have to manually adjust it just to have portrait functionality | 12:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | no, not really any option here. Default is CSSU behaves like stock | 12:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | it seems we agreed on opt-in for additional feature long ago | 12:45 |
| freemangordon | Mohammad AG - seems there is another issue with QtWebKit, looks like facebook OAuth login thinks we are connecting from IPhone and sends javascript which QWebView cannot parse :D | 12:47 |
| freemangordon | You can reproduce it by logging out from sociality and trying to log on back | 12:48 |
| MohammadAG | noticed that yesterday | 12:49 |
| freemangordon | It does not happen if user agent is microb's one | 12:49 |
| MohammadAG | thought it was a facebook bug | 12:49 |
| freemangordon | seems like | 12:49 |
| MohammadAG | what was the useragent on 4.7.0? | 12:50 |
| freemangordon | lets check in qt documentation | 12:50 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, ping | 12:51 |
| freemangordon | "Mozilla/5.0 (%Platform%; %Security%; %Subplatform%; %Locale%) AppleWebKit/%WebKitVersion% (KHTML, like Gecko) %AppVersion Safari/%WebKitVersion%" On mobile platforms such as Symbian S60 and Maemo, "Mobile Safari" is used instead of "Safari". | 12:52 |
| freemangordon | so difference is only in versions | 12:52 |
| freemangordon | someone should mail facebook | 12:54 |
| freemangordon | I googled for the error and it seems it happens on n8 too | 12:54 |
| MohammadAG | freemangordon, can it be fixed? | 12:55 |
| freemangordon | Why not, we just need to change browser user-agent | 12:58 |
| freemangordon | I mean in QtWebkit | 12:58 |
| freemangordon | In meantime do would you consider a mail to facebook support? | 12:59 |
| MohammadAG | yes | 12:59 |
| MohammadAG | what's the user agent? | 12:59 |
| freemangordon | hm, I have tcpdump traces on my desktop, but again cannot connect. You know how to use tcpdump, are you? | 13:00 |
| freemangordon | tcpdump -i wlan0 -s 8192 -w log.cap or something like that | 13:02 |
| freemangordon | and when trying to log on choose alternative logon method, so no encryption to take place | 13:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | I repeat my suggestion to enable rotation (change) according to accelerometer only during cam focus switch is pressed | 13:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | of course except for those apps that are meant to autorotate, most prominent instance: dialer | 13:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | should I "update all" - incl 7645 libqtm-* pkgs **and Community SSU enabler**? Or should I start with just updating Maemo 5 Community SSU Package only? | 13:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooh, actually just 10 libqtm-* packages | 13:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hmm... "problems: update of libqtm-publishsubscribe not possible. Conflicting packages: libqt-(opengl|declarative|xmlpatterns|webkit|gui|maemo5|sgl|svg|multimedia|phonon|translation) (4.7.0-git20100909-0maemo1-0m5) | 13:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | " | 13:19 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer : only "Maemo 5 Community SSU Package" | 13:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | ok | 13:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | installed: 20.2010.36-2maemo13; available: 20.2010.36-2maemo16.5 | 13:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | is there a way to extend the time those yellow notification popups show up? I wasn't able to read all that's been written there on "all OS successfully updated. Restart of device will..." | 13:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | mhm, "community SSU enabler: update available!" | 13:40 |
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| freemangordon | was'n there a wiki page somwhere describing how to install CSSU? | 13:41 |
| * DocScrutinizer wonders if the CSSU enabler could get uninstalled | 13:41 | |
| DocScrutinizer | on the bright side, the libqtm-* updates are gone, incl their conflicts ;-D | 13:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: I bet there's a site describing CSSU installation - I guess I even followed the instructions there, several months ago | 13:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer | so what to do with CSSU enabler now? update? ignore? uninstall? | 13:49 |
| freemangordon | update maybe, who knows | 13:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, or maybe updating triggers another full CSSU install | 13:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | and I think there are some guys around who should know | 13:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: ^^^^ ? | 13:51 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, update | 13:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | ok | 13:59 |
| MohammadAG | if you already have it, it won't install an icon in the menu | 13:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ok, now for desktop rotation - how to disable it? | 14:04 |
| fw190 | there is an icon in the statu menu to lock landscape | 14:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | locks my dialer into landscape :-( | 14:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | so that's not a proper option obviously | 14:07 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, check hildon-desktop gitorious repo | 14:07 |
| MohammadAG | it shows the gconf key, a boolean | 14:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | what? | 14:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm | 14:08 |
| MohammadAG | I would paste how, but I'm on windows screwing with an android | 14:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | would that gconf key also disable autorotation for HAM, modest, younameit ? | 14:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | I guess no, so my question probably is: how to tweak CSSU autorotation so that it behaves exactly identical to stock? Enable rotation lock plus place dialer on whitelist? | 14:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | pretty please - how can I get rid of all this new autorotation stuff? | 14:13 |
| RST38h | there is a status menu widget | 14:14 |
| RST38h | lets you disable rotation | 14:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: read backscroll, just a few 5 lines or so | 14:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer | AIUI there *is no* way to configure CSSU so it behaves exactly like stock fremantle regarding orientation/rotation | 14:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | I at very least had to edit a blacklist for each new app I install | 14:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | please correct me if I'm wrong, I so much hope I'm wrong this single time | 14:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | can't whitelist help me out? | 14:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | anybody? | 14:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: how would I block autorotation for all apps/screens, but allow dialer and only dialer to do its thing? | 14:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | meh, I knew I'd hate it | 14:36 |
| * DocScrutinizer considers `` find $PATH -print > grep -v dialer >$blacklist; '' would that work? | 14:38 | |
| DocScrutinizer | err | 14:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | `` find $PATH -print | grep -v dialer >$blacklist; '' | 14:39 |
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| Jaffa | MohammadAG: pong | 15:15 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, mind asking someone to remove mp-fremantle-community-pr from extras-devel? | 15:16 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Did you oops? | 15:16 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, yes, I'm only human :p | 15:16 |
| MohammadAG | X-Fade isn't replying to my pings | 15:16 |
| X-Fade | MohammadAG: I'm not? | 15:17 |
| Jaffa | :) | 15:17 |
| Jaffa | Speak of the... errr.... devil ;-) | 15:17 |
| X-Fade | Where did you ping? | 15:17 |
| MohammadAG | right when I oopsed two days ago | 15:17 |
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| MohammadAG | and today iirc | 15:18 |
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| X-Fade | Will try to fix it. I have to go now, but I'll be back later. | 15:30 |
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| stsdema28 | guys is there any problem-bug to update from maemo16 to maemo16.5? someone report that had to flash the kernel.... | 15:37 |
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| MohammadAG | the CSSU doesn't touch the kernel | 15:51 |
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| merlin1991 | Back from rome, do I need to update changelog (did we release?) | 16:32 |
| MohammadAG | topic | 16:34 |
| merlin1991 | Lemme /topic then :P | 16:34 |
| merlin1991 | Hm I removed the metapackge for qt testing, no idea wich version I have :P | 16:35 |
| merlin1991 | But the set date looks like I have something todo | 16:35 |
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| mensoif | Hi, since PR 1.3.3.7-10 my portrait mode homescreen is broken, is this a know issue? | 16:48 |
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| MohammadAG | mensoif, broken? | 17:21 |
| arcean_ | mensoif: what do you mean by 'broken'? | 17:21 |
| mensoif | all icon are grouped at top of the screen | 17:24 |
| merlin1991 | mensoif: regroup then and after that they stay that way | 17:25 |
| merlin1991 | it remembers the state of portrait and the one of landscape seperately | 17:26 |
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| merlin1991 | wtf where did my camera-ui bugreport go? | 17:27 |
| merlin1991 | ah still here | 17:28 |
| merlin1991 | bug #12318 | 17:28 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12318 camera-ui open lid dialog has no close button | 17:28 |
| merlin1991 | and still valid :/ | 17:28 |
| arcean_ | merlin1991: bug #12381 is better :P | 17:29 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12381 camera corrupts USER DATA (deletes existing pictures by overwriting them) | 17:29 |
| merlin1991 | yeah I'm just backing up my pics from rome | 17:29 |
| merlin1991 | to be sure :P | 17:29 |
| merlin1991 | what exactly does it overwrite? | 17:29 |
| arcean_ | heh | 17:29 |
| arcean_ | probably photos created by the others apps | 17:30 |
| merlin1991 | or rahter when does it go nuts? | 17:30 |
| merlin1991 | hm "Desktop can be locked to landscape separately" where? xD | 17:31 |
| arcean_ | gconftool-2 --type=bool --set "/apps/osso/hildon-desktop/desktop_orientation_lock" "true | 17:32 |
| merlin1991 | and the whitelist stuff? | 17:32 |
| arcean_ | in transitions.ini | 17:33 |
| merlin1991 | I'm 4 days away in rome and exactly then the update rolls | 17:33 |
| merlin1991 | I hate that :D | 17:33 |
| arcean_ | yeah, you're lucky ;) | 17:34 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: what's the status on eventually introducing proper portrait to conversations? | 17:34 |
| MohammadAG | not looked into | 17:34 |
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| arcean_ | #bug 11975 is fixed already | 17:35 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/11975 CSSU Upgrades remove user-enabled hildon-desktop options | 17:35 |
| merlin1991 | arcean_: I see you worked on the changelog did you go through all packages already? | 17:35 |
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| sam23m | portrait conversations and vkb PLEASE! | 17:35 |
| arcean_ | yes, i think it's ok | 17:35 |
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| merlin1991 | arcean_: nope changelog isn't complete | 17:46 |
| arcean_ | merlin1991: what is missing? | 17:47 |
| merlin1991 | ah wait | 17:47 |
| * merlin1991 should check back with the actual changelog before making claims | 17:47 | |
| merlin1991 | thought there's somehting missing, but it's actually there :P | 17:47 |
| arcean_ | :P | 17:48 |
| arcean_ | is there anyone who can close some bugs? | 17:48 |
| merlin1991 | arcean_: afaik anyone can edit the bug status | 17:49 |
| arcean_ | but without me:D | 17:50 |
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| alien__ | hi, is the rewritten media player already in the SSU? | 17:56 |
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| merlin1991 | alien__: no it isn't | 17:59 |
| alien__ | are there any plans? | 18:00 |
| merlin1991 | alien__: it's all up to MohammadAG, the rewritten media player is written by him, but in the current state is not cssu ready | 18:00 |
| alien__ | ok | 18:01 |
| alien__ | I would like to jump into CSSU development | 18:01 |
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| alien__ | so this might be a first step | 18:01 |
| merlin1991 | I'm sure he'll be happy about patches | 18:01 |
| alien__ | ok, I gotta go now | 18:02 |
| merlin1991 | the mediaplayer source is here: https://gitorious.org/qt-mediaplayer/mediaplayer | 18:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | how to tweak CSSU autorotation so that it behaves exactly identical to stock? Enable rotation lock plus place dialer on whitelist? | 19:06 |
| arcean_ | DocScrutinizer: you mean disable rotation for desktop, app launcher and task switcher? | 19:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | I mean disable rotation for * minus dialer | 19:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | I "only" want it to act *exactly* like stock fremantle regarding rotation | 19:08 |
| arcean_ | i think it is possible | 19:08 |
| arcean_ | sec, i'll check that | 19:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | and I'm seriously about to file a ticket against that | 19:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer | alien_: merlin1991: why would it need to go to CSSU? what stops you from using it alternatively/concurrently to stock mediaplayer right now? | 19:11 |
| amiconn | DocScrutinizer: Just a nitpick - disabling autorotation for anything but dialer would *not* be identical to stock firmware. There are several apps in stock nokia which autorotate by default (e.g. image viewer) | 19:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | mediaplayer should not replace stock media player in CSSU, exactly like camera-ui should never have been replaced | 19:16 |
| arcean_ | DocScrutinizer: please, check this: gconftool-2 --set /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate -t bool false | 19:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | amiconn: god point | 19:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | good | 19:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | dialer rotates only after/on opening a menu in dialer | 19:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | so that's not it, though it seems to lock rotation of desktop just fine | 19:19 |
| RST38h | which is probably a bug | 19:19 |
| arcean_ | DocScrutinizer: so why it works for me :D? | 19:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | dunno | 19:20 |
| arcean_ | will perform reboot, maybe some problems with h-d | 19:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe your dialer isn't configured to always open in portrait ? | 19:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | ok, I killall'd hildon-desktop, will reboot now | 19:21 |
| arcean_ | i've tried with automatic and portrait settings | 19:21 |
| arcean_ | uuu, never killall hildon-desktop :P | 19:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Features#Applying_the_changes_to_transitions.ini | 19:23 |
| arcean_ | h-d often behaves strengly after killall | 19:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | sounds like the missing bit in the § I linked above ;-D | 19:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | \o/ | 19:26 |
| arcean_ | yeah | 19:26 |
| * DocScrutinizer dances | 19:26 | |
| DocScrutinizer | now I probably just want to get rid of the autorotation-button in status menu | 19:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | and I'm back to my beloved usual behaviour of H-D | 19:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | I gather this works flawlessly by "usual means" of editing those define files for the status applets? | 19:29 |
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| arcean_ | I think so, but MAG should know better | 19:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | arcean_: I owe yu a beer | 19:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | many thanks :-) | 19:35 |
| arcean_ | np :) | 19:35 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: I don't remember what it was (because I'm using the play by mag quite long already) but there was a bug in the stock player | 19:38 |
| merlin1991 | and since mags player aims to be a 1&1 copy with enhancements still providing all base features I think it is a valid cssu candiate when it's "bug free" | 19:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, that would be a fair reason to get a replacement, but tbh I've not seen any bug yet that I could recall and think that needs a replacement | 19:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | if it actually proves to fix a bug while not same time introducing others then yes, it is a valid candidate for CSSU | 19:40 |
| * DocScrutinizer ponders same thing about camera right now | 19:42 | |
| DocScrutinizer | keep or roll back to stock camera app? that's the question | 19:42 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, /usr/share/applications/hildon-status-menu | 19:43 |
| MohammadAG | rm / mv the .desktop file | 19:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | for sure I'd feel better with my known-to-work stock camera-ui and the nicocam as an alternative I'm free to use or not to use | 19:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: thanks | 19:43 |
| MohammadAG | wtf is a vtable | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | yay vtables | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_method_table | 19:46 |
| MohammadAG | /home/mohammad/sociality-mtf-build-harmattan/../sociality-mtf/placespage.cpp:12: error: undefined reference to `vtable for PlacesPage' | 19:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | hungarian notation for a variant vtable? | 19:50 |
| MohammadAG | I just had to run qmake again | 19:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | ok fols, I feel I owe you this: | 19:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | weldone, the 16.5 update seems to works just nice | 19:52 |
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| MohammadAG | I better push 16.6 with that Qt bugfix before you change your mind | 19:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | yet another Qt bug? | 19:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | e.g Fahrplan works just fine here | 19:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | so I thought it's fixed? | 19:58 |
| MohammadAG | Open Marble | 19:59 |
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| merlin1991 | what was broken this time? | 20:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | pooof | 20:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-/ | 20:01 |
| MohammadAG | it's fixed upstream | 20:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | marble is mandatory | 20:02 |
| MohammadAG | I'll push the update now | 20:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | so yes please publish 16.6 ASAP | 20:02 |
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| RST38h | Marble? Mandatory? Who says? | 20:10 |
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| MohammadAG | freemangordon, ping | 20:13 |
| freemangordon | MohammadAG MohammadAG, pong | 20:14 |
| freemangordon | oops | 20:14 |
| freemangordon | :D | 20:14 |
| MohammadAG | freemangordon, anything other than Qt to be in 16.6? | 20:14 |
| freemangordon | Maybe modest translations | 20:14 |
| freemangordon | BTW ask arcean whether portrait wallpaper segfault should be included | 20:15 |
| arcean_ | nope | 20:15 |
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| arcean_ | brave tester needed ;) | 20:15 |
| freemangordon | :D | 20:15 |
| taziff | :) | 20:15 |
| freemangordon | and who will be that brave soul? | 20:16 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, ping | 20:16 |
| freemangordon | not me, now I am burried in QT XML parser, trying to find facebook login problem | 20:16 |
| MohammadAG | btw, it affects Harmattan too | 20:18 |
| MohammadAG | so it's not our fault | 20:18 |
| MohammadAG | Kasvopus on Harmattan fails to login | 20:18 |
| MohammadAG | so does sociality-mtf, I removed &display=touch so it renders the full site, that seems to work | 20:18 |
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| freemangordon | yep, this is 100% upstream bug, somewhere in QXmlStreamReader | 20:22 |
| barzam | hey everyone, I have a question: is it possible to see the sms conversations in portrait mode without horizontal scrolling (as discussed here: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11976) | 20:23 |
| povbot | Bug 11976: viewing sms conversations in portrait mode without horizontal scrolling (patch) | 20:23 |
| barzam | I don't really follow the discussion in the bug report | 20:23 |
| arcean_ | barzam: not yet | 20:23 |
| barzam | but if I patch it myself it works? | 20:23 |
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| MohammadAG | yes | 20:26 |
| barzam | ok thanks for making that clear, is the inclusion of this patch considered in a future update or does it break stuff (generally speaking :) )? | 20:27 |
| MohammadAG | it's considered, but no one's working on it | 20:29 |
| freemangordon | MohammadAG, this is offending line from HTTP responce "<script type="text/javascript">window.Bootloader && Bootloader.done(["LayX0","jmiSQ","eA0FZ"]);</script>" if you wish and have time to debug | 20:30 |
| freemangordon | "&&" bugs XML parser | 20:30 |
| freemangordon | but only in QML | 20:31 |
| MohammadAG | how so? | 20:31 |
| MohammadAG | sociality-mtf also fails to login | 20:31 |
| freemangordon | QML? | 20:32 |
| MohammadAG | MTF at the end should've given that away | 20:32 |
| barzam | arcean_, MohammadAG: allright, thanks again for explaining | 20:32 |
| MohammadAG | it's C++ | 20:32 |
| freemangordon | On of the things I did is to save the whole html in a file and to open it with QtMWeb | 20:33 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: pong | 20:33 |
| freemangordon | no problem at all | 20:33 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, brave soul needed | 20:33 |
| merlin1991 | uh oh | 20:33 |
| merlin1991 | wassup? | 20:33 |
| MohammadAG | arcean_, ^ | 20:34 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 20:34 |
| arcean_ | merlin1991: someone needs to test portrait wallpapers :D | 20:34 |
| merlin1991 | what exactly are "portrait wallpapers" ? | 20:35 |
| arcean_ | you will have separate sets of wallpapers for both modes | 20:35 |
| merlin1991 | well does it have a proper gui to configure? | 20:36 |
| arcean_ | so when you turn device it will also change wallpapers | 20:36 |
| merlin1991 | because nice in theory, but that has to be easily accessible | 20:36 |
| arcean_ | yes, change wallpaper applet | 20:36 |
| arcean_ | in desktop edit mode | 20:37 |
| * DocScrutinizer seems to witness the start of the legendary CSSU16 hackaton weekend | 20:37 | |
| arcean_ | but the thing is, it may crash your h-d and/or h-h | 20:38 |
| merlin1991 | I'm brave (cuz drunk) but sadly currently gaming at friends, so I'll have to decline the offer to be your guinea pig | 20:39 |
| arcean_ | :P | 20:39 |
| merlin1991 | if I get wifi in crete I have the full afternoon tomorrow though | 20:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | crash h-d seems not a too bad thing, it recovers, no? | 20:39 |
| merlin1991 | lmao | 20:39 |
| merlin1991 | reboot loop ftw | 20:39 |
| arcean_ | nope | 20:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooh it *permanently* crashes h-d, that'S BAD(tm) | 20:40 |
| arcean_ | and that's why I said "brave" tester :D | 20:40 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, if you have R&D mode, yeah, it does | 20:40 |
| merlin1991 | arcean_: if I'm online tomorrow I'll be happy to brick my device :D | 20:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | I once got this on PR1.1 iirc, when h-d segfaulted while I moved weatherapplet from one screen to the other -> bootloop | 20:41 |
| arcean_ | merlin1991: ok :D | 20:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | BM FTW | 20:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | I think we should consider sth like mandatory recovery tools in CSSU rather than fazzing around with standard apps replacements | 20:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/mandatory/default packaged/ | 20:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd be all positive about including BM into mp-cssu | 20:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | plus a lifetime free delivery of Club Mate hackersoda to robbiethe1st :-D | 20:45 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, sec | 20:47 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/%23maemo-ssu.2011-09-06.log.html#t2011-09-06T21:25:17 | 20:48 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, read that, you'll like the idea | 20:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hehe, yeah. I'll look into it right away | 20:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | not sure about the X11 window, but keeping dsme from rebooting after 3 consecutive h-d aborts seems simple enough, no? | 20:52 |
| MohammadAG | just change the dsme line to an X11.post script | 20:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | I always thought h-d *is* our special flavour of X11-server? | 20:53 |
| MohammadAG | if it crashes, it respawns, and keeps on respawning | 20:53 |
| MohammadAG | hildon-desktop is the same as KDE/gnome/unity/whatever | 20:54 |
| MohammadAG | it's just a window manager | 20:54 |
| MohammadAG | actually, err | 20:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah | 20:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | so what's our Xserver process? | 20:54 |
| MohammadAG | KWin, compiz, etc | 20:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | ps ax|grep <what>? | 20:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | matchbox? | 20:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | dunnowhatelse? | 20:55 |
| MohammadAG | Xorg | 20:55 |
| MohammadAG | matchbox is the underlying window manager | 20:56 |
| MohammadAG | it's started somewhere at bootup and replaced by hildon | 20:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ps ax|grep -i x -- doesn't leave me any wiser | 20:57 |
| MohammadAG | ps x | grep Xorg | 20:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway include BM and set a flag so it gets invoked on boottime no matter if kbd slide open or not | 20:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | dang I'm blind | 20:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure, there's Xorg and always been | 20:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | 867 root 32324 S < /usr/bin/Xorg -logfile /tmp/Xorg.0.log -logverbose 1 | 20:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | never mind | 20:59 |
| * DocScrutinizer wonders if the coffee was too thin | 20:59 | |
| DocScrutinizer | whatever, back to hacking up dsme cmd parameters for h-d | 21:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | the whole "magic": | 21:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | #!/bin/sh | 21:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | export HILDON_DESKTOP_APPS_PRESTART=auto | 21:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | # sadly, we have to use dsmetool here, so we cant respawn session.. | 21:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | /usr/sbin/dsmetool -c 3 -T 180 -m -17 -t /usr/bin/hildon-desktop | 21:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | /etc/X11/Xsession.post/21hildon-desktop | 21:03 |
| MohammadAG | #!/bin/sh | 21:03 |
| MohammadAG | export HILDON_DESKTOP_APPS_PRESTART=auto | 21:03 |
| MohammadAG | # sadly, we have to use dsmetool here, so we cant respawn session.. | 21:03 |
| MohammadAG | /usr/sbin/dsmetool -c 3 -T 180 -m -17 -t /usr/bin/hildon-desktop | 21:03 |
| MohammadAG | can't segfaults be captured? | 21:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | replace -t by -f in this file and you are a lot better than before | 21:04 |
| MohammadAG | so the default file can be restored and the offending file be copied to transitions.ini.this.file.fucked.hd | 21:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | meh, nothing as simple as that: /usr/bin/hildon-desktop||/usr/local/bin/myACMErecover-whenHDsegfaults | 21:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | throw this into a script, call the script from dsmetool rather than the /use/bin/hildon-desktop | 21:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | and - for gods sake - replace the -t (for "then do sw-reset") in dsmetool h-d-invokation by -f (for "then give up")! | 21:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer | nobody needs bootloops! | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | so a sw-reset id almost always a TERRIBLE idea | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | is* | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd consider replacing -t by -f in /etc/X11/Xsession.post/21hildon-desktop a valid "bugfix" that may go into CSSU immediately | 21:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | AIUI the max risk is we end needing to remove battery to trigger a reboot | 21:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/we end/we run into/ | 21:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | and honestly I prefer this to a bootloop, each day | 21:13 |
| MohammadAG | almost? | 21:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | almost? | 21:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | the idea of including BM to CSSU, give it an additional check for a /BM-show-up-please flag file, and set this flag file on bootloop conditions like the above h-d segfault - has some charm. Just make sure BM itself removes the flag file after reading it, so we don't run into a BM "bootloop" deadlock ;-D | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | "yeah, sorry user. You have to enter the debug shell of BM and enter `rm /BM-show-up-please`. What, you got no display on BM shell, you got no powerkernel and thus no fb? too bad, please reflash!" X-P | 21:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | "don't cry! without CSSU and BM you'd probably see a bootloop and had to reflash as well... Sorry Sir? Please, calm down..." | 21:21 |
| MohammadAG | mce doesn't die when hd does | 21:22 |
| MohammadAG | max risk is invalid | 21:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | max risk is challenged to be less than anticipated | 21:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | challenger MohammadAG still struggles to prove his point about mce being immortal | 21:23 |
| MohammadAG | ha, it segfaulted on me once | 21:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | shall I build a package for >> sed -e "s/ -t / -f / -i /etc/X11/Xsession.post/21hildon-desktop << ? | 21:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | shall I build a package for >> sed -e "s/ -t / -f /" -i /etc/X11/Xsession.post/21hildon-desktop << ? | 21:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: or will you simply slip it in on next update? | 21:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | if you plan to do so, I'd like to request some sparring about potential side effects here | 21:27 |
| MohammadAG | it's just a letter | 21:27 |
| MohammadAG | won't harm | 21:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd honestly like to see it reviewed by another devel first | 21:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, let's try some game ;-D | 21:29 |
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| MohammadAG | I'm pushing the modified apt which doesn't prevent installation from certain categories in this update | 21:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, ok | 21:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's apt, not HAM, right? | 21:59 |
| merlin1991 | yep | 22:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: NB if you fsckup apt then the rollback will be rather hard (some manual dpkg messing) | 22:01 |
| MohammadAG | yes | 22:02 |
| MohammadAG | just an additional compilation flag | 22:02 |
| MohammadAG | it's nokia's code | 22:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | also double-check if HAM actually *can* update apt | 22:02 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, don't worry, it's been in testing | 22:02 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, it was a method to get apps that didn't appear in the ovi store for some people | 22:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer | oh, ok then, should be safe uh? | 22:03 |
| MohammadAG | and HAM can update apt, since apt can update itself | 22:03 |
| MohammadAG | yeah, totally | 22:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, thought as much, but better check back | 22:03 |
| MohammadAG | FYI, dsme gave up on starting hildon-desktop | 22:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-) | 22:03 |
| MohammadAG | and there's no funny message in syslog about reboot suppressed by R&D flag | 22:04 |
| MohammadAG | but someone with a normal device should check | 22:05 |
| merlin1991 | a "brave" one? :P | 22:07 |
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| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, | 22:27 |
| MohammadAG | I'll keep the update without a meta package | 22:27 |
| MohammadAG | can we both do testing on a 16.5 device and see what happens? | 22:27 |
| MohammadAG | then I'll push the meta package | 22:27 |
| MohammadAG | Segmentation fault | 22:31 |
| MohammadAG | dpkg: error processing khweeteur (--configure): | 22:31 |
| MohammadAG | why is a compiled app running in khweeteur's postinst o_O | 22:31 |
| merlin1991 | trout khertan? | 22:31 |
| * amiconn asks once more about the packages being lost when installing or updating cssu | 22:33 | |
| amiconn | Last time (v16 -> v16.5) they did not get uninstalled, but somehow marked as being manually installed, so the next autoremove would have removed them | 22:33 |
| amiconn | How can this happen? | 22:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: sorry, what do you want me to do? | 22:34 |
| amiconn | Err, makred as *automatically* installed | 22:34 |
| amiconn | *marked, bah | 22:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | amiconn: aiui a pkg marked "manually installed" won't get removed on apt autoremove | 22:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooh | 22:35 |
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| Creteil | arcean_, up ? | 22:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer | shall I prefer CSSU_Features_Configuration editor or CSSU_Tuner? Or are they complementary? | 22:42 |
| arcean_ | Creteil: hey | 22:42 |
| Creteil | well, lock desktop in landscape sux :-( | 22:42 |
| arcean_ | hmm, why? | 22:43 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, apt-get update; apt-get install apt hildon-desktop libqt4-gui | 22:43 |
| Pali | MohammadAG, what about update libcpaboutcssu? add new contributors... | 22:43 |
| Pali | and will be modest-l10n updated? | 22:44 |
| Creteil | arcean_, when I use the phone app, he orientation leave in landscape sometimes (after I used the sms function IIRC) ... | 22:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: will do as soon as you tld me which of the CSSU tuners to install, and after I've done another reboot with BM backup | 22:44 |
| arcean_ | Creteil: could you give me exact steps to reproduce? | 22:45 |
| Creteil | arcean_, damn I have to reinstall the latest and reboot ... wait 1 ... | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | for now I've been waiting 5 min to get to HAM "install"->"all" search "CSSU". I like to finish on it prior to reboot | 22:45 |
| arcean_ | Creteil: ok | 22:46 |
| MohammadAG | I wish I knew how text2screen worked | 22:47 |
| MohammadAG | it writes directly to framebuffer | 22:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | text2screen is rather rough | 22:47 |
| arcean_ | Creteil: we are talking about desktop_orientation_lock feature? | 22:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway, please suggest what's the deal with CSSU_Features_Configuration editor and CSSU_Tuner | 22:48 |
| Pali | open source version of text2screen is here: https://github.com/slonopotamus/fb_text2screen | 22:49 |
| Creteil | arcean_, yes | 22:50 |
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| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: about them tuners | 22:51 |
| merlin1991 | niether | 22:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | duh | 22:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | why? | 22:51 |
| merlin1991 | I personally didn't try any of them and both are developed by a third party regarding cssu | 22:51 |
| merlin1991 | so can't recommend one without at least glancing at the code | 22:52 |
| merlin1991 | espcially when the cssu is ahead again transistion.ini wise | 22:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure | 22:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU -> >>Note: There is a GUI editor for enabling CSSU features. If you use that, you can ignore the editing and applying sections on this page and just refer to the features directly<< | 22:53 |
| merlin1991 | it's a wiki :D | 22:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | err http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Features | 22:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | I know it's a wiki | 22:53 |
| merlin1991 | but there's even a bug report about that page, I'll try to fix it as soon as I'll find itme | 22:53 |
| merlin1991 | it's missing most gconf keys, ... | 22:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | :nod: thought as much | 22:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | whatever, I installed them both now... meh | 22:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | >>Reading the configuration settings gave FATAL ERROR while loading. Not all settings are available. \n\n Exiting.. << :-P | 22:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | CSSU Features app | 22:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | now or CSSU Tuner which (more logically) lives in Settings | 22:59 |
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| Creteil | arcean_, I cannot reproduce it for the moment, but afternoon this bored me ... | 23:01 |
| Creteil | arcean_, I leave the device with latest, and next time the shit occur I report without deinstalling ... | 23:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | for* | 23:02 |
| arcean_ | [21:44] <Creteil> arcean_, when I use the phone app, he orientation leave in landscape sometimes (after I used the sms function IIRC) ... | 23:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | and yes, this CSSU-tuner looks not that bad | 23:03 |
| arcean_ | Creteil: yum mean desktop in landscape mode? | 23:03 |
| arcean_ | or what? | 23:03 |
| arcean_ | *you | 23:03 |
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| Creteil | arcean_, YES I want the desktop locked always in landscape mode :-) | 23:04 |
| arcean_ | Creteil: but you said, that after closing Phone app, it leaves screen in landscape mode | 23:04 |
| arcean_ | hmm | 23:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | umm, I got it as "dialer sometimes is in landscape mode despite it should be in portrait" | 23:06 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, done the upgrade? | 23:08 |
| arcean_ | so, it would be also a bug against stock hd | 23:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: just about to do BM backup | 23:08 |
| MohammadAG | what's BM? | 23:08 |
| Creteil | arcean_, no | 23:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | BackupMenu | 23:09 |
| MohammadAG | ah | 23:09 |
| MohammadAG | well | 23:09 |
| MohammadAG | hildon-desktop segfaults at launch | 23:09 |
| MohammadAG | let's reboot and see what happens | 23:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | wut? | 23:09 |
| MohammadAG | hopefully it connects at some point | 23:09 |
| Creteil | arcean_, I say sometime the phone app leave in lanscape mode even the configuration is on lock to portrait inside the phone app | 23:09 |
| arcean_ | Creteil: nothing has changed regarding Phone app in h-d | 23:09 |
| MohammadAG | I made snap_to_grid 0, that's known to segfault h-d since PR1.0 | 23:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | aaah | 23:09 |
| MohammadAG | I have a feeling I'm gonna regret this | 23:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | LOL | 23:10 |
| MohammadAG | there's a fine line between bravery and stupidity | 23:10 |
| Creteil | arcean_, that why I say that sux :-) | 23:10 |
| MohammadAG | I think I crossed it | 23:10 |
| arcean_ | MohammadAG: I'll fill a bug against snap_to_grid :P | 23:10 |
| MohammadAG | pfft | 23:10 |
| MohammadAG | bug reports are for the weak | 23:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | if you got no BM backup then yes, you probably crossed it already | 23:10 |
| MohammadAG | copy apple, sue it | 23:11 |
| arcean_ | Creteil: that's another thing to investigate :) | 23:11 |
| Creteil | arcean_, anyhow I leave the latest in place and I will see if it occur another time ... | 23:11 |
| MohammadAG | hildon-desktop started | 23:11 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, no BM in the first place | 23:11 |
| MohammadAG | segfault baby,,booyah | 23:11 |
| MohammadAG | 1st attempt | 23:12 |
| MohammadAG | 2nd attempt | 23:12 |
| MohammadAG | 3rd attempt | 23:12 |
| arcean_ | Creteil: it's highly possible... | 23:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | Creteil: dialer forced to landscape when statusmenu orientation-lock is set is a known "problem" | 23:12 |
| MohammadAG | no reboot | 23:12 |
| MohammadAG | oh and no ssh either, fuck | 23:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | \o/ | 23:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-( | 23:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | time for a rescue system then? | 23:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | or for booting meego? | 23:13 |
| MohammadAG | let's hope omweather refresh connects | 23:13 |
| Creteil | DocScrutinizer, BTW statusmenu orientation-lock is set to auto on my side ... | 23:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | aaah no WLAN connect | 23:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | omweather won't start without h-d | 23:14 |
| MohammadAG | it will | 23:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | ? | 23:14 |
| MohammadAG | widgets live in hildon-home | 23:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 23:14 |
| MohammadAG | all widgets will be scattered | 23:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | hildon-home will live on without h-d? | 23:14 |
| MohammadAG | yeah | 23:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | o.O | 23:14 |
| MohammadAG | just no container to hold widgets | 23:14 |
| MohammadAG | so all 4 views are on one screen | 23:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | haha | 23:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | so what you got now? an X screen without window manager? | 23:15 |
| MohammadAG | love USB networking | 23:15 |
| MohammadAG | yeah | 23:15 |
| MohammadAG | windows show up and such | 23:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | but with widgets scattered all over the screen? | 23:16 |
| MohammadAG | dialogs show up too | 23:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | \o/ | 23:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | I bet you'll have some fun next few hours ;-D | 23:16 |
| MohammadAG | yeah | 23:16 |
| MohammadAG | same as dsmetool -k /usr/bin/hildon-desktop | 23:17 |
| MohammadAG | I'm back in | 23:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | \o/ | 23:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ok | 23:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | so you want me to do >> apt-get update; apt-get install apt hildon-desktop libqt4-gui << ? | 23:21 |
| MohammadAG | yes | 23:23 |
| MohammadAG | well, just libqt4-gui | 23:23 |
| MohammadAG | anyway, I crossed the stupidity line again | 23:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: :-( | 23:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | W: Conflicting distribution: http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3 Release (expected fremantle-1.3 but got ) | 23:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | W: GPG error: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY ADB4438160A655EF | 23:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems | 23:26 |
| MohammadAG | that's a warning line, and it's not our repo :) | 23:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | right it's "W:" | 23:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | ok s here we go | 23:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | WTF? >> | 23:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | Suggested packages: | 23:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | aptitude synaptic gnome-apt wajig dpkg-dev apt-doc lzma python-apt libqt4-dev | 23:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | << | 23:30 |
| gregoa | MohammadAG: with qt +cssu5 I have a working confclerk (which segfaulted with +cssu4 on some actions) | 23:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | 19 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 53 not upgraded. | 23:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | Need to get 19,8MB of archives. | 23:31 |
| gregoa | MohammadAG: BTW, is it possible/allowed/wise to upload a package to extras-devel that depends on the qt version from the CSSU repo? | 23:32 |
| MohammadAG | for 16.7, we want to include the security fix | 23:33 |
| MohammadAG | I just didn't want to rush it much | 23:33 |
| MohammadAG | I might release that today, just need to test it | 23:34 |
| MohammadAG | it's a Nokia upstream fix | 23:34 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, you can just apt-get install mp-fremantle-community-pr now | 23:34 |
| MohammadAG | and install 16.6 | 23:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | meh | 23:34 |
| MohammadAG | possible, yes | 23:34 |
| MohammadAG | allowed, I guess, who'd disallow it | 23:35 |
| MohammadAG | wise, not sure :) | 23:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | Setting up libqt4-translations (1:4.7.4~git20110505+cssu5) ... | 23:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | result: 0 | 23:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | so what now? redo all the foo with 16.6? | 23:36 |
| gregoa | certificate-manager from gitorious also looks good (after adding a missing build dependency on automake) | 23:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | whatever, first reboot | 23:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-P | 23:37 |
| gregoa | MohammadAG: thanks, and good to know I'm not alone in being uncertain about it being wise or not :) | 23:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: what shall I check now? | 23:40 |
| MohammadAG | just apt-get install mp-fremantle-community-pr | 23:40 |
| MohammadAG | all settings are preserved | 23:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | again? | 23:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, whatever you like, darling ;-D | 23:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | just thought you'd want me to test something regarding the results from >> apt-get install apt hildon-desktop libqt4-gui << | 23:42 |
| sunkan | I get a dependency error on maemo-optify-runonces which seems to be unavailable.. | 23:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | hah there are updates available | 23:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer | guess what it is ;-P | 23:43 |
| RST38h | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 23:43 |
| RST38h | mp-fremantle-community-pr: PreDepends: maemo-optify-runonces but it is not installable | 23:43 |
| RST38h | Mohammad: Any pointers? | 23:43 |
| MohammadAG | marble :) | 23:43 |
| RST38h | ? | 23:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: CSSU maemo 5 | 23:44 |
| RST38h | Mohammad: can't apt-get install mp-fremantle-community-pr any more =( | 23:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | didumdidum, another 5 minutes waiting for HAM | 23:45 |
| ThreeM | hehe | 23:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: same problem as RST38h :-/ | 23:46 |
| ThreeM | HAM: one of the fastest peace of softwae ever created | 23:46 |
| freemangordon | enable nokia repos | 23:46 |
| RST38h | ? | 23:47 |
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| freemangordon | make sure nokia catalogs are enabled in HAM | 23:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | HAM info on "Maemo 5 CSSU Package" -> "problems: maemo-optify-runonce missing" | 23:47 |
| freemangordon | it is nokia repos here http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_root_pr1-2_armel/maemo-optify-runonce/0.10-32+0m5/ | 23:48 |
| freemangordon | make sure those are enabled | 23:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | pr1-2 for sure not enabled here | 23:48 |
| sunkan | There seems to be an extra "s" in the dependency | 23:49 |
| RST38h | folks, you are suggesting some pretty dangerous hings | 23:49 |
| RST38h | that too. is there a typo in the -pr control file? | 23:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: EMERGENCY! | 23:50 |
| RST38h | Looks like someone has completely screwed the CSSU rollout process =) | 23:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | HAHAHAHA | 23:50 |
| merlin1991 | well it's supposed to be pr.13 before cssu for a reason | 23:50 |
| RST38h | there is a typo in the dependency - it says runonces | 23:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | LOL | 23:51 |
| freemangordon | confirmed - "Pre-Depends: maemo-optify-runonces" | 23:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah indeed, same here, in HAM | 23:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | HAM info on "Maemo 5 CSSU Package" -> "problems: maemo-optify-runonces missing" | 23:52 |
| arcean_ | "PreDepends are not installable" | 23:53 |
| freemangordon | and where is MohammadAG | 23:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | shitting ;-P | 23:53 |
| freemangordon | again? | 23:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | hihihi | 23:54 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, noticed | 23:54 |
| arcean_ | bug #10423 | 23:54 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/10423 HTTPS URL's Don't Work - certman's C_FindObjects mishandles null return from get_cert | 23:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'm off for now (well, on-the-road for a beer so only available via the device-under-test ;-D ) | 23:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ping me in case, but don't expect me to run any apt-get foo stuff | 23:56 |
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