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| MohammadAG | thp, yes | 09:56 |
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| thp | MohammadAG: but not released as an update i suppose? | 10:14 |
| MohammadAG | thp, no, not yet, the new update will have Qt 4.7.2 so I'm testing that a bit | 10:15 |
| thp | the cssu or official ssu? | 10:17 |
| MohammadAG | thp, cssu | 10:20 |
| MohammadAG | thp, someone removed the flip to landscape when launching apps, if the desktop is in portrait mode Qt apps fail to launch and segfault | 10:20 |
| MohammadAG | we the need the fix for that, but since I also want git commit history I'm getting sources from the repo | 10:21 |
| thp | ok | 10:22 |
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| *** ChanServ changes topic to "Maemo Community SSU channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version: 20.2010.36-2maemo13" | 12:06 | |
| chem|st | \o/ | 12:12 |
| MohammadAG | Just added a link to sources, not a new update :P | 12:13 |
| chem|st | MohammadAG: no hurry... didn't install the current as I don't even know the package name | 12:14 |
| Damnshock | MohammadAG: there's plenty of people waiting for the update hehehe you got us all anxious | 12:17 |
| Damnshock | you and the cssu team | 12:18 |
| thp | MohammadAG: btw, can we get stuff like qt mobility 1.2 in the cssu as well (it's currently in extras-devel) or is that out of scope/? | 12:31 |
| MohammadAG | thp, isn't it highly experimental? | 12:31 |
| thp | Works For Me(tm) | 12:32 |
| thp | what about qtm 1.1? | 12:32 |
| MohammadAG | if it's stable enough, why not :) | 12:32 |
| MohammadAG | thp, though how do we allow people to push their apps? | 12:33 |
| thp | hm? | 12:33 |
| MohammadAG | we have to either add the cssu to the builder, or launch some extras-devel-cssu? | 12:33 |
| MohammadAG | the builder will still build against 1.0 | 12:33 |
| thp | yep, true (for c++/compiled apps) | 12:33 |
| thp | not so much of an issue with python apps :p | 12:34 |
| MohammadAG | lol | 12:34 |
| thp | also, i wonder if the new qt version wouldn't have a problem with apps built against older versions as well | 12:34 |
| thp | even though it should be binary compatible between 4.7.x afaik | 12:34 |
| MohammadAG | thp, 4.6.2 apps work with 4.7 | 12:35 |
| MohammadAG | 4.7 apps don't work with 4.6.2 | 12:35 |
| MohammadAG | so all apps in devel should work, but if we add the CSSU to the builder, then all devices without the CSSU won't | 12:35 |
| thp | true | 12:36 |
| thp | hmm | 12:36 |
| thp | anyway, it's not that urgent. but would be nice if we could have recent versions of qt qnd qtm shipped with the cssu at some point | 12:37 |
| MohammadAG | thp, again, 4.7.0 will be updated to 4.7.2, so that's a start :P | 12:38 |
| Damnshock | wow, this is kinda overwelming | 12:43 |
| Damnshock | there's so many things to look at | 12:43 |
| Damnshock | do you guys have any automated way for building everything from git? | 12:45 |
| MohammadAG | nope | 12:45 |
| Damnshock | there's like 20 different programs in community cssu gitorious | 12:46 |
| Damnshock | that sounds like a pain | 12:46 |
| MohammadAG | which reminds me | 12:46 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991 suggested git submodules | 12:46 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, is there a way to do that without breaking anything? | 12:47 |
| thp | MohammadAG: you could just create one overarching repo that has every cssu git repo as submodule | 12:48 |
| thp | that would leave the other repos as-is | 12:48 |
| Damnshock | MohammadAG: what would that help for? | 12:50 |
| MohammadAG | thp, hmm | 12:51 |
| MohammadAG | Damnshock, you can pull all sources in one step | 12:51 |
| Damnshock | yeah, that might be right | 12:54 |
| Damnshock | although it's not that difficult to get all the sources by one command ;) | 12:54 |
| MohammadAG | neither is building them then :P | 12:55 |
| MohammadAG | suppose you have them all in one folder | 12:55 |
| MohammadAG | for folders in *; do cd $folders && fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -b && cd ..; done | 12:56 |
| MohammadAG | or "$folders" ;) | 12:56 |
| Damnshock | which solves what was going to be my next question | 12:58 |
| Damnshock | xD | 12:58 |
| Damnshock | however, building can get errors while downloading can't (usually at least) | 12:58 |
| Damnshock | I guess I'll have to install the sdk on my computer | 12:58 |
| Damnshock | hahahaha | 12:59 |
| MohammadAG | well yeah, you can't build without that | 12:59 |
| Damnshock | MohammadAG: "$folder" is safer as it takes care of "white spaces" in the directory names | 12:59 |
| MohammadAG | yeah, but I'm sure there are none in this case | 13:00 |
| MohammadAG | :) | 13:00 |
| Damnshock | well, in my experience... you never know | 13:00 |
| Damnshock | wheter by mistake or maliciously sometimes can happen | 13:00 |
| Damnshock | whether | 13:00 |
| Damnshock | crap, now is one of those little moment when I'm angry because of not having a debian based distro | 13:02 |
| Damnshock | it'd make things so much easier sometimes | 13:02 |
| Jaffa | Doesn't having a Debian-based distro make *everything* easier? | 13:09 |
| MohammadAG | not if working with MeeGo lies under the everything category :P | 13:10 |
| Damnshock | Jaffa: no, it does not | 13:12 |
| Damnshock | bleeding edge software is rather difficult with a debian based distro | 13:12 |
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| Lava_Croft | yup | 13:58 |
| Lava_Croft | it takes a while for carrier pigeons to transfer sourcecode written on stone slabs to the debian cave | 13:58 |
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| thp | Damnshock: if you want to run bleeding edge sw, you can simply use debian unstable | 14:21 |
| Damnshock | thp: not bleeding edge enough | 14:21 |
| MohammadAG | not to mention PPAs | 14:21 |
| Damnshock | running Archlinux here :) | 14:21 |
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| Damnshock | obviously bleeding edge is not the only reason to run Arch | 14:21 |
| Damnshock | ;) | 14:21 |
| thp | isn't arch based on debian? | 14:22 |
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| Damnshock | hell no | 14:22 |
| thp | is that the pacman thingie? | 14:22 |
| Damnshock | thp: yep | 14:22 |
| Damnshock | if it's based in something that is in bsd | 14:22 |
| thp | ah.. alright ;) | 14:23 |
| thp | anyway, debian/ubuntu with ppas is "bleeding edge" enough for me | 14:23 |
| Lava_Croft | arch is based on crux | 14:23 |
| Jaffa | And, for anything else, rebuild from source yourself into /usr/local | 14:23 |
| Lava_Croft | and its awesome | 14:23 |
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| thp | i haven't used arch yet | 14:24 |
| thp | pretty much settled on debian-based stuff after a long journey starting from RH8 over Slackware to Ubuntu, then Debian and then Ubuntu again | 14:25 |
| merlin1991 | Lava_Croft: especially when you use it with the awesome window manager :D | 14:25 |
| Lava_Croft | merlin1991: xfce4 here, after years of ratpoison:> | 14:25 |
| Lava_Croft | debian is too much of a mess for real tinkering, to me | 14:26 |
| Lava_Croft | im not too technical, im just logical | 14:26 |
| * Damnshock is a KDE guy | 14:26 | |
| Lava_Croft | and not religious either | 14:26 |
| Damnshock | kwin supports tiling as well :) | 14:26 |
| Lava_Croft | i have a 1.6ghz athlonxp | 14:26 |
| Lava_Croft | i dont feel like wasting half my resources to kde | 14:26 |
| Damnshock | Lava_Croft: some people would ask you which is the difference | 14:26 |
| Lava_Croft | i would use it if i had a way faster computer, it looks nice | 14:26 |
| thp | ok. calm down. didn't want to start a flamewar.. | 14:27 |
| Damnshock | kde runs well on my old centrino 1.5ghz | 14:27 |
| Lava_Croft | thp: no flaming at all! :D | 14:27 |
| thp | Vim rules! emacs sucks. | 14:27 |
| thp | :p | 14:27 |
| merlin1991 | now you did .D | 14:27 |
| Damnshock | thp: it's not a flamewar, just a friendly discussion | 14:27 |
| Damnshock | ;) | 14:27 |
| Lava_Croft | its bad with open source folks that they always think that if you are not praising something | 14:27 |
| Lava_Croft | there must be flaming going on! | 14:27 |
| merlin1991 | wait there's something else between praising an flaming? | 14:27 |
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| Lava_Croft | :) | 14:28 |
| Lava_Croft | you have to very careful around open source people | 14:28 |
| Lava_Croft | i came to find out | 14:28 |
| Lava_Croft | before you know it, an irc channel turns into a huge flamewar concerning different pieces of the same shitty software | 14:28 |
| merlin1991 | did they backstab you for not praising their stuff? | 14:28 |
| Lava_Croft | always makes me feel bad:< | 14:28 |
| Damnshock | in my experience the lack of personal contact is a heavy burden | 14:28 |
| Lava_Croft | the social inadequacy can be quite scary | 14:29 |
| Damnshock | writting not always shows what you feel about the thing you are wrting | 14:29 |
| Lava_Croft | anyhow.... | 14:29 |
| Damnshock | vim rules! | 14:29 |
| Damnshock | :P | 14:29 |
| Lava_Croft | im happy debian runs on my n900 and not arch | 14:29 |
| Damnshock | just kidding ;) | 14:29 |
| Lava_Croft | since at least debian can be kind of trusted to keep running! | 14:29 |
| Lava_Croft | there, said something negative about arch, it all evens out now | 14:29 |
| Damnshock | that's not negative | 14:30 |
| Damnshock | it's just the way it is | 14:30 |
| Damnshock | arch only runs in x86 and x86_64 | 14:30 |
| Damnshock | ;) | 14:30 |
| Lava_Croft | but like i said, have to be careful around open source people! :D | 14:31 |
| Damnshock | anyway, what's the actual statuls on cssu? I recall MohammadAG saying something about qt apps segfaulting whenever run from portrait mode? | 14:31 |
| Lava_Croft | i want to, completely out of the blue, thank nokia for that metal band around the n900 screen | 14:32 |
| Lava_Croft | if it wasnt there, with a lot of paint scratched off, my screen would be so damaged | 14:33 |
| * Damnshock agrees | 14:34 | |
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| * chem|st nods | 16:59 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | just it's not any metal ;-D | 17:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | I learned whe I dropped my device and a small piece broke out of that frame | 17:47 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ooops nevermind | 17:49 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | actually I'm talking bout that 0.5mm rim at base of that frame | 17:49 |
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| merlin1991 | lol | 21:13 |
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