IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Monday, 2011-04-04

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thpMohammadAG: what's the url for the testing debs of your media player replacement?00:35
MohammadAGthp, no debs yet00:35
MohammadAGthp, http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/mediaplayer00:36
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MohammadAGthp, you can join #maemo-foss, I usually discuss it there00:37
merlin1991that means he usually forces his testing-bitch (me) to test new stuff ;)00:39
MohammadAGthat too ^00:40
thpwow, nice already.00:41
thpentertainment view crashed, though00:41
MohammadAGthp, you don't have the qml file, so yeah :)00:42
MohammadAGI'm not including it in a resource file since that prevents outside access00:42
thpyeah, that's what i'd have suggested now :p00:42
thpMohammadAG: you could add it as resource for fallback when the external qml file doesn't exist00:42
MohammadAGthp, but then I can't the album art00:44
thpwhy not?00:44
MohammadAGthp, it tries to look in :/ instead of /00:44
MohammadAG:/ = resource file00:44
MohammadAG/ = root directory00:45
thpMohammadAG: and when supplying an absolute file:// URL?00:45
MohammadAGthp, it looks in file://:/00:45
MohammadAGor something like that, I tried to do it once00:45
thpthen write a custom image provider and use image://00:45
thphttp://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/qdeclarativeimageprovider.html00:45
MohammadAGthp, tbh, I only worked on it for an hour00:46
MohammadAGI still need to make the slider active, and stretching it (to make it wider) messes it up00:46
MohammadAGI wish I could use QSlider00:46
thpportrait mode is really nice. as is the cover art "shiny shadow" effect00:47
MohammadAG:)00:47
MohammadAGI hate how long Qt takes to repaint though00:47
MohammadAGrotation is a bit slow when the device is under heavy load00:47
MohammadAG(as with all Qt apps)00:47
thpso, what's missing for the public release? the playlist  display?00:48
MohammadAGthp, yeah, can't figure that out00:48
MohammadAGand categories view in videos, but that should be easy00:48
thpvideo playback is also nice. seems to be a bit confused by my forced portrait mode, but that's okay.00:50
thpreally looking forward to seeing that as part of the cssu at some point :)00:50
thpMohammadAG: is there a bug tracker? found an issue with the time display for tracks > 1h00:53
MohammadAGthp, nope, no tracker yet00:54
MohammadAGthp, audio tracks > 1h?00:54
MohammadAGdo those even exist? I assumed not so didn't make a check00:54
MohammadAGI'm guessing it shows 59:5900:54
thpit actually just trims the hour part. so after 59:59, it is 00:00 and goes on from there00:55
thpMohammadAG: you should start listening to more dj sets ;) they are ~ 1h to ~2h mostly00:55
MohammadAGthp, I'm using http://doc.trolltech.com/4.7/qtime.html#toString00:56
MohammadAGwith mm:ss as the format, I should add hh: if time is over 59 minutes and 59s00:56
thpyep00:56
thpboth for position and duration00:57
MohammadAGthp, about video playback, I'm trying to get the bottom bar transparent, it'll look nice00:58
thpMohammadAG: for that you probably only need to get the right background color00:58
MohammadAGthp, it is right, I'm not sure what's wrong00:59
MohammadAG(that's why it's greenish instead of black)00:59
thpor Qt::WA_TranslucentBackground on the widget00:59
MohammadAGthat shows a black background for some reason00:59
MohammadAGthp, btw, the player has DBus methods ready01:00
thpnice. in addition to the mafw interface?01:00
MohammadAGif you edit the .service file in /usr/share/dbus-1/services/com.nokia.mediaplayer.service01:00
MohammadAGand make it point at the new player, the stock widget will open that player01:00
MohammadAGI just need to sort mime_open (it's used by the file manager to open files)01:01
MohammadAGand while the method is ready, I can't figure out how to get the mime type01:01
thpi also like that it keeps state between invocations, although having the music running after closing is confusing at first01:01
merlin1991thp: the last sthing is a settting01:02
merlin1991in the settings ui01:02
thpmerlin1991: there's a settings ui?01:02
thpfound it :)01:03
thpanyway, new day. gotta get some sleep. catch you later :)01:03
MohammadAGnight thp :)01:04
MohammadAG<thp> i also like that it keeps state between invocations, although having the music running after closing is confusing at first <-- one of the things I missed from Symbian01:04
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Lava_CroftMohammadAG: nice work! If you put up a build, I'll try it after work.08:21
Lava_Croftand good morning08:21
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chem|stHELP!!11111:21
* chem|st just needed the 1337 end...11:22
merlin1991chem|st: wassup?11:22
merlin19914v4ryth!ng 3lr!ght?11:22
chem|stI don't know if it is cssu or hardware... my kbd leds are gone11:22
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chem|st/sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0032/leds:lp5523:kb6/brightness nonexistent directory ...11:24
merlin1991cssu shouldn't affect that11:24
chem|stor something else, my girl shutdown the device accidentally and starting it again didn't ask for pin weird enough11:25
chem|stbut then the kbd light was gone too11:25
chem|strestarting it again it asked for gsmPIN but yet no kbd leds... :(11:25
chem|stmerlin1991: that's what I thought11:26
* chem|st is going to #maemo to moan there :(11:26
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thpchem|st: did you try turning it completely off (i.e. switch off without usb cable, then waiting a bit, popping the battery, putthing everything back together and turning it on?)11:33
mecechem|st, wow..spooky11:39
chem|stthp: not yet...11:58
chem|stthp: will charge it a bit before I try... just did backups...11:59
thpchem|st: the other "keyboard leds gone" thing could be R&D mode, but I doubt that she connected the device to a PC and used flasher to set the R&D flags11:59
thpalso, they would blink in a weird fashion then and not be completely gone11:59
chem|stwas connected to win7 and I dont know if the kbd leds worked before12:00
chem|stjust rsyncing stuff now... hope some powerreset like removed battery will help it12:01
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chem|stthp: removing battery worked *puh*12:20
thpchem|st: :)12:23
thpmaybe you didn't really switch off the n900. if it's on the charger, it merely goes into "actdead" mode12:23
chem|stthp: no it was outdoors somewhere oin the fields, she tried to take pictures, and messed up the buttons cause the slide was blocking her fingers from grabbing properly12:35
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chem|stwas a bit scared as unregistered devices without messed up modules points to h/w fault...12:36
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merlin1991what's up with the netsplits today? I thought they blong to the past12:41
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chem|stmerlin1991: there are currently issues with some servers... (some weeks now afair)12:46
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MohammadAGchem|st/sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0032/leds:lp5523:kb6/brightness nonexistent directory ...15:33
MohammadAGrelated to kernel-power15:33
MohammadAGremoving the battery should reset the chip, as it always stays "powered" even when the device is off15:34
MohammadAGcc DocScrutinizer15:34
chem|stehrm does cssu install custom kernel? (didn' check)15:37
Lava_Croftno15:38
Lava_Croftthere was talk about it some time ago, though15:38
chem|stcold boot did fix it yes, I have no kernel-power installed (you mean power-kernel right, or enlighten me pls)15:41
MohammadAGit's called kernel-power15:41
MohammadAGPower kernel is the used name on the forums15:41
MohammadAGname used*15:41
chem|stah ok so no I have not :)15:41
MohammadAGweird15:41
MohammadAGpost output of uname -r, something might've pulled it in15:41
chem|stthere was a hickup as I described where a warm-boot did not ask for gsm-PIN15:42
chem|st2.6.28-omap115:43
DocScrutinizerchem|st: kernel-power == RPN15:44
DocScrutinizer3 enter 5 *15:45
chem|stDocScrutinizer: what are you talking about15:45
DocScrutinizerwhen lp5523 locks up then it possibly can kill even stock kernel's driver to a point where sysfs nodes vanish. Needs bat removal as quoted by MohammadAG15:46
DocScrutinizerRevers Polish Notation15:46
DocScrutinizerHP calculators15:46
DocScrutinizerkernel <enter> power >attribute>15:47
chem|stok, yeah but that never happened before... likely not the gsmPIN thing15:47
chem|stwhere do you want me to enter this?15:48
chem|stand what will it do?15:48
DocScrutinizeror maybe it's french. They also do it all the time, like OTAN instead of NATO15:48
DocScrutinizerSIDA instead of AIDS15:48
chem|styou lost me lines ago15:49
DocScrutinizerobject:kernel attribute:power == this is a power kernel15:49
DocScrutinizercet un kernel power15:49
DocScrutinizera red flower -> une fleur roughe15:50
DocScrutinizeru n kernel power15:50
chem|stI get it but why is this important now?15:51
DocScrutinizernot at all15:51
chem|sto_O15:51
DocScrutinizerjust joking about kernel-power15:51
chem|stI know that package names are sorted the other way round to have all related packages under the same first character...15:52
DocScrutinizeryeah, prolly15:52
DocScrutinizerand I got no idea why it didn't ask for PIN15:53
DocScrutinizerthere *are* warm boot ways that don't need PIN15:53
chem|stthat is something bothering me right now as this is a security risk15:54
DocScrutinizerIIRC dsme watchdog rebooting device is one of them15:54
chem|stthe "warm" boot in this case means "just not removed no battery"15:54
DocScrutinizerthat's really weird15:54
chem|styes15:54
chem|stand currently scaring me15:55
chem|stnever checked but does the device ask for security pin when changing SIMs?15:55
DocScrutinizerjustly15:55
chem|stremoving doesn't afir15:55
DocScrutinizererr15:55
DocScrutinizerit MUST, no?15:56
DocScrutinizera) you have to switch off to change SIM  b) new SIM has new PIN15:56
chem|stthat should be one of the basic features, comes with all phones I owned yet but the 30eur devices back fom 199815:56
DocScrutinizerwhat?15:56
chem|stI mean securityPIN not the gsmPIN15:57
DocScrutinizeraaah, you mean hw-lock15:57
chem|styes15:57
DocScrutinizerwell, I don't think N900 supports hat15:57
DocScrutinizerthat*15:57
chem|stI know...15:57
chem|stI actualy would like to have it set for boot permanently15:58
DocScrutinizeryou have general hw-lock that needs to be entered on each bootup15:58
chem|sthow?15:58
DocScrutinizerenable outolock I guess15:58
DocScrutinizersettings lock15:58
chem|stit does ask if the device was locked during shutdown15:59
DocScrutinizer:nod:15:59
DocScrutinizersounds like a fixable thing15:59
chem|stbut I think it didn't when just autolock was active but not initialized15:59
chem|stlmc15:59
DocScrutinizerI never used lock so dunno much about it15:59
chem|stthat is THE theft protection...16:00
DocScrutinizerchem|st: simple as milk: add the dbus call to lock device to init scripts (actually xsession)16:01
chem|stok active autolock without locked device asks for lockcode at boot!16:01
chem|stI'd love to have double-press powerkey to HW-lock and not just screen/kbd-lock and only the slide-switch for that16:03
DocScrutinizerhmm, not sure if mce.ini can do16:05
chem|stI tried but the command is not available for double press16:05
chem|stactualy I'd have used the standby cmd routines for it but that is not available in rx5116:06
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DocScrutinizer51btw the harmattan mce.ini and mce seems to be a tad smarter16:10
DocScrutinizer51can mix led patterns16:10
DocScrutinizer51err OR states16:10
chem|sthow far is harmattan grown yet?16:10
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chem|stthought it is testing stage already... I'd love to participate in testing16:11
DocScrutinizer51if you request pattern-bat-charged and pattern-IM then mce might search for pattern-bat-charged&IM16:11
chem|st.oO(not only for funny ovi.com merchandise stuff I get for closed betas/alphas^^)16:12
DocScrutinizer51meh, I hope it will never see the daylight16:12
M4rtinKany plans for upgrading the system glib ? any known blockers preventing it ? :)16:12
M4rtinKquite a few newer packages are already demanding 2.24 and above (namely Clutter 1.5+)16:13
chem|stI saw nokia alphas go beta in 4 weeks and beta go productive in 1 week and was like "people pls don't i.0.1 i++ on that it is more like i-- and should stay beta another month at least...16:13
DocScrutinizer51I got goosepimples like 397 times when those 'nolia testers' asked thinks like "what do you use for xterm on maemo?" then "(... not on fremantle here)"16:14
chem|stthey either meego or harmattan'ing16:17
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DocScrutinizermaego hartamman MEEH16:20
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DocScrutinizerI know exactly, it will be like 75s after I got my hands on that, and tried in vain to find out how to make those unbearably ugly mickeymouse gnomes vanish on desktop wallpaper, that I smash the device against the wall16:23
DocScrutinizerhonestly, this wallpaper will stop every semi-serious user from picking up the device at store to have a first look at it16:25
DocScrutinizerand fine so, as the rest of the UX is just in line with this boiler plate16:25
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DocScrutinizerwell maybe this is the right chan to express hope for hildon get a port to mee(ae)go harmattan HE, but then I ask "why do we need friggin meego HE anyway?"16:28
chem|styeah sad to see nokia going down the stream...16:28
chem|stand someone paid some newspapers to recommend WP7 will outnumber iphone fall 2011...16:29
chem|stas soon as we be able to flash maemo+cssu on new hardware, I am happy!16:30
chem|stnokia germany stopped selling n900s online...16:30
chem|stI think I will buy another for spare when it drops to 2xx€16:31
DocScrutinizeryeah16:31
DocScrutinizeryeah16:31
chem|stor even 2 just in case16:31
DocScrutinizeryeah16:31
chem|stthis device will suite me for the next years!16:31
DocScrutinizerI'm expecting an EOL of no less than 5 years from now16:32
DocScrutinizerwell, 4 now16:32
DocScrutinizergot it >12 months ago16:32
chem|stthey have to keep up with spareparts for another 10 afair16:32
DocScrutinizerdon't think so16:32
chem|stfor EU I think they have16:33
DocScrutinizerdepends on value of device, and whatnot16:33
chem|stas long as you can buy one + 4 years16:33
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DocScrutinizergot 2 now, if it wasn't I'm spoiled by the ~12 FR devices colllecting dust here, I'd say I could feel just ahppy16:34
chem|stFR devices?16:35
DocScrutinizerFreerunner16:35
DocScrutinizer/whois DocScrutinizer5116:35
chem|st12?16:36
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DocScrutinizerFFS16:36
DocScrutinizerZNC failed to authenticate16:36
DocScrutinizer/whois DocScrutinizer16:37
DocScrutinizeryes, 1216:37
DocScrutinizeror more?16:37
DocScrutinizerhttp://share.ovi.com/media/joerg900.public/joerg900.1009616:39
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chem|sthow many are working?16:40
DocScrutinizer:shrug:16:40
DocScrutinizerwith a lil love all but one16:40
DocScrutinizerthere's another few lent to friends etc16:41
chem|stehrm where did you get the unsoldered rx51 mb from?16:42
DocScrutinizerwhat they're called...?16:42
chem|stpicture 2/7616:42
DocScrutinizerownta.com16:43
chem|stwhat for?16:43
DocScrutinizercheck out traces16:43
DocScrutinizeresp those that aren't in schematics16:43
DocScrutinizerI.E. testpoints16:43
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DocScrutinizerJTAG16:44
chem|stah ok16:44
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thphas the task switcher portrait mode thingie been merged already?22:56
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