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| barzam | what major parts of maemo are proprietary btw? | 00:00 |
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| barzam | and is the plan to replace them if possible? | 00:01 |
| Sc0rpius | from the top of my head, all related to Phone, Conversations (SMS) | 00:01 |
| MohammadAG | mediaplayer, contacts | 00:01 |
| barzam | and no word from nokia about releasing them? | 00:02 |
| MohammadAG | i wouldn't expect a word | 00:02 |
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| thp | btw, how's the mediaplayer replacement coming forward? | 00:14 |
| Sc0rpius | I really use MediaBox | 00:16 |
| barzam | Sc0rpius: does shoutcast work for you on emdiabox? | 00:18 |
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| andre__ | barzam, http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=784443&postcount=32 | 00:53 |
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| Sc0rpius | barzam: not anymore | 01:34 |
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| Pillum | is the media player widget open source? | 04:46 |
| Pillum | cause play doesnt work for me | 04:46 |
| Pillum | after installing ssu | 04:46 |
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| Sc0rpius | first time I hear something like that | 06:14 |
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| MohammadAG | The media player widget has always been broken | 09:17 |
| MohammadAG | thp, works fine for songs I guess | 09:18 |
| MohammadAG | still lacks playlist, videos, etc | 09:18 |
| MohammadAG | (listing works fine though) | 09:19 |
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| thp | cool. is it portrait aware? | 10:17 |
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| MohammadAG | thp, yeah | 11:42 |
| Jaffa | Standard media player widget works for song starting and skipping for me. | 11:46 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, the fact that it's not working is an NB | 11:47 |
| MohammadAG | not related to the SSU | 11:47 |
| * Jaffa nods | 12:02 | |
| thp | any ETA for the qt mediaplayer, btw? | 12:11 |
| thp | and will it be included in the cssu or will it just be an app in extras | 12:11 |
| Jaffa | thp: I suspect when it reaches feature parity and is well tested we'll include it in the CSSU | 12:13 |
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| MohammadAG | I really need help with Mafw Playlist | 12:27 |
| MohammadAG | C isn't my strongest points | 12:27 |
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| MohammadAG | i wonder if we can edit mafw to include gapless playback | 13:19 |
| MohammadAG | since it uses gstreamer, that shouldn't be too hard | 13:20 |
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| ruskie | are there any plans for a better frontend to telepathy? | 13:51 |
| MohammadAG | A conversations rewrite, it was considered, not sure if everyone's still up for it | 13:56 |
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| MohammadAG | hmm, I wonder if we could edit libhildon so we could scroll down with the keyboard | 13:59 |
| thp | lcuk: do you know where in hildon-desktop the code for sliding in dialogs + appmenus is? or if it is in h-d at all (as you are the last maintainer listed in changelog i though you might know) | 14:03 |
| MohammadAG | thp, grep for "popup" | 14:04 |
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| MohammadAG | at least you'll find the transition for them, you can easily trace back | 14:04 |
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| thp | now that was a little too easy ;) | 14:06 |
| thp | MohammadAG: thanks =) | 14:06 |
| MohammadAG | :) | 14:06 |
| thp | oh, man.. src/mb/hd-wm.h has "#ifndef __HD_WM_H__" in it, but is missing the "#define __HD_WM_H__" ;) | 14:30 |
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| thp | about that tactile support.. should we just make the brightness file world-writable? | 14:35 |
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| thp | yay for tactile integrated into h-d :p | 14:48 |
| thp | can we make an optional feature that depends on a utility (tactile) in extras-devel to work? | 14:48 |
| thp | it's a run-time dependency, so it will still build and run without | 14:49 |
| thp | another option would be to integrate the tactile code directly into h-d.. | 14:49 |
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| BCMM | thp: what tactile support? | 14:56 |
| thp | BCMM: tactile feedback for things like appmenu and dialogs popping up | 14:57 |
| BCMM | hmm could be nice | 14:58 |
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| thp | BCMM: if you have extras-devel enabled, "apt-get install tactile" + run tactile-demo.py in xterm | 15:01 |
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| BCMM | thp: it makes my n900 go "chirrup" | 15:03 |
| BCMM | also, old hard-drive noises | 15:03 |
| BCMM | heh, feels like using a windows 95 laptop that's paging | 15:04 |
| BCMM | while you're opening a dialog, it clicks and whirs and vibrates :) | 15:04 |
| BCMM | (and windows 95 laptops were always paging, somehow) | 15:05 |
| thp | you can turn it off if you don't like it ;) | 15:10 |
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| thp | http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/merge_requests/5 | 15:33 |
| Jaffa | thp: So is it spawning `tactile' for the popup? Rather than internalising it | 15:39 |
| Jaffa | thp: Does tactile add itself to /etc/sudoers? | 15:40 |
| thp | yep and yep | 15:53 |
| thp | as i said, i have no problem with adding the tactile code directly to h-d, but then it's a permissions problem | 15:53 |
| thp | and i'd rather have tactile running as root than the whole h-d ;) | 15:53 |
| thp | i mean, adding an initscript that does chmod a+w on the brightness file would do the trick as well.. | 15:54 |
| thp | Jaffa: ^ | 15:56 |
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| Jaffa | thp: Yeah, changing the perms seems the best long term solution | 16:39 |
| Jaffa | But this approach good for prototyping | 16:39 |
| Jaffa | I look forward to your gtk+ patch ;-) | 16:40 |
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| MohammadAG | thp, did I miss any patches? :P | 17:28 |
| MohammadAG | remember you can spawn the vibra with dbus | 17:28 |
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| thp | MohammadAG: yes, but we want cool patterns ;) | 18:22 |
| MohammadAG | are N8 ones cool enough thp? :p | 18:22 |
| thp | maemo 5 will have the most awesome vibra patterns of them all | 18:23 |
| thp | we already have different ones for appmenu slide-in and appmenu slide-out (+a special one for dialogs) | 18:23 |
| thp | MohammadAG: seen that one? http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/merge_requests/5 | 18:23 |
| * MohammadAG clicks | 18:24 | |
| MohammadAG | on 2G, might take a while | 18:24 |
| thp | why bother then? ;) just have a look when you are at home | 18:24 |
| thp | Jaffa: gtk+ patches might be more problematic; with all that preloader stuff going on. don't really want to reboot after each change | 18:25 |
| MohammadAG | thp, cause I like patches :p | 18:26 |
| MohammadAG | got a binary of h-d? | 18:26 |
| MohammadAG | also, shouldn't we have tactile in the ssu repo and have h-d depend on it? | 18:27 |
| thp | well, that's still under discussion | 18:27 |
| thp | if we just chmod a+w the file, we can move the code from tactile into h-d directly | 18:27 |
| MohammadAG | wouldn't h-d have to be root? | 18:28 |
| thp | otoh, if it isn't that big of a performance hit, having it as separate binary might still be useful for future hack allowance :) | 18:28 |
| MohammadAG | and again, got a binary with the patch applied? :p | 18:28 |
| thp | MohammadAG: normally yes, but if the file in (sysfs?) is world-writable, then not | 18:28 |
| thp | MohammadAG: yep, let me grab it from a device.. | 18:28 |
| MohammadAG | I doubt it can be writable (could be wrong though) | 18:28 |
| thp | well it can be | 18:28 |
| thp | but the permissions have to be set at least on every reboot | 18:29 |
| MohammadAG | then i stand corrected | 18:29 |
| MohammadAG | yeah | 18:29 |
| MohammadAG | well, an init script can do that | 18:29 |
| MohammadAG | start on hildon-desktop started | 18:29 |
| MohammadAG | or whatever the syntax is | 18:29 |
| MohammadAG | or /etc/X11/Xsession.post/20hildon-desktop | 18:30 |
| thp | http://khan.thpinfo.com/~thp/tmp/hd_2011-02-18_tactile.deb | 18:30 |
| thp | how is it called when a debian package replaces/modified a file in another debian package? | 18:44 |
| thp | diversions! ;) | 18:51 |
| Jaffa | thp: dpkg-divert is very cool. Used in the enabler to put a shim around /usr/libexec/apt-worker | 18:56 |
| Jaffa | Might be worth looking to align CSSU h-d with smoku's Cordia version: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=921119&postcount=62 | 18:59 |
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| Pillum | hello? | 19:11 |
| thp | Pillum: hey | 19:11 |
| Pillum | thp: do you know if the media player widget is open source? | 19:11 |
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| Pillum | huh? | 19:15 |
| arcean | Pillum: it's closed AFAIK | 19:17 |
| Pillum | oh, crap | 19:17 |
| arcean | Pillum: but we always have http://maemo.org/packages/view/media-player-widget/ | 19:19 |
| Pillum | thats overkill for me | 19:19 |
| Pillum | i just need the name of the song + prev/next and play/pause | 19:19 |
| thp | Pillum: where do you need it? | 19:21 |
| thp | in your own code? | 19:21 |
| thp | mafw has a "nice" d-bus interface (it's not nice, but it is reversable) | 19:21 |
| Pillum | since I installed the ssu update | 19:22 |
| Pillum | the widget play function isnt working anymore | 19:22 |
| Pillum | pause is working though | 19:22 |
| MohammadAG | that's a Nokia bug, not related to the SSU | 19:28 |
| Pillum | MohammadAG: but it was working BEFORE i installed the ssu :S | 19:34 |
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| MohammadAG | Pillum, it's random, not related to before or after, just a coincidence | 19:44 |
| Pillum | if you say so ... | 19:44 |
| MohammadAG | after all, we didn't touch the media player, nor mafw, nor the widget | 19:44 |
| MohammadAG | lemme find the bug | 19:44 |
| MohammadAG | https://bugs.maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9192 Pillum | 19:46 |
| povbot | Bug 9192: Media Player applet stops working after a while | 19:46 |
| Pillum | thats not it | 19:46 |
| Pillum | all the buttons are working | 19:46 |
| Pillum | except for play | 19:46 |
| Pillum | even pause is working | 19:47 |
| MohammadAG | yes, I know | 19:47 |
| MohammadAG | that's the same | 19:47 |
| MohammadAG | well, related | 19:48 |
| MohammadAG | ask _nicolai_ when he's on | 19:48 |
| MohammadAG | it's related to no playlist being assigned | 19:48 |
| MohammadAG | or the renderer not being found | 19:48 |
| MohammadAG | he fixed it in his applet | 19:48 |
| MohammadAG | <Pillum> thats overkill for me <-- how is it an overkill? | 19:49 |
| Pillum | iirc its too "complicate" and not simple and small | 19:50 |
| MohammadAG | too complicated? it works in the same way but has different graphics :S | 19:50 |
| Pillum | hehe | 19:51 |
| Pillum | MohammadAG: is your media player usable yet? or any ways how I can help? have very good C++ skills and experience with QT | 20:18 |
| trumee | MohammadAG: i was able to compile sofia-sip(master branch) using the debian/rules from debian repo | 20:18 |
| trumee | MohammadAG: It doesnt compile if i copy the debian/rules from fremantle package | 20:19 |
| MohammadAG | no worries, I'll compile it on my own | 20:19 |
| trumee | MohammadAG: just wanted to let you know if you run into this | 20:19 |
| MohammadAG | Pillum, #maemo-foss has a link to the nightly | 20:19 |
| MohammadAG | the channel's quiet lately though | 20:19 |
| MohammadAG | I need a wrapper for MafwPlaylist, _nicolai_ kindly provided the ones for MafwSource and MafwRenderer | 20:20 |
| trumee | MohammadAG: telepathy-sofiasip spits out some missing tp-dbus-daemon on compilation | 20:20 |
| MohammadAG | Mafw is glib based, so it's not the easiest thing for me | 20:20 |
| trumee | MohammadAG: but maybe it needs sofia-sip to be installed first. | 20:21 |
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| Jaffa | ~[6~thp: tovmae? | 20:54 |
| Jaffa | Ignore that, read the description... | 20:57 |
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| thp | Jaffa: hacking stuff at levels like hildon desktop and ot taking care gives several great reflash occassions ;) | 21:04 |
| thp | s/ot/not/ | 21:05 |
| thp | MohammadAG: btw, did you notice that with forced rotation, a non-portrait app in portrait mode does not show the status menu | 21:05 |
| thp | (or rather, the menu quickly appears and then disappears) | 21:06 |
| MohammadAG | hmm | 21:06 |
| thp | try it with xterm in portrait mode | 21:07 |
| thp | or is that just some packages missing on my side? | 21:07 |
| thp | hmm could be that I currently do not have all of the current cssu packages installed | 21:07 |
| thp | does it work for you? | 21:08 |
| MohammadAG | sec | 21:08 |
| MohammadAG | thp, works fine for me | 21:09 |
| MohammadAG | you have the stock hildon-status-menu | 21:10 |
| MohammadAG | that calls gtk_widget_hide_all (iirc) when in portrait mode | 21:10 |
| MohammadAG | gtk_widget_hide (GTK_WIDGET (status_menu)); | 21:11 |
| thp | yep, guess so | 21:12 |
| lardman | is this channel logged? | 21:17 |
| lardman | ah not to worry, found the link I was after after all | 21:18 |
| MohammadAG | yes | 21:20 |
| lardman | MohammadAG: doesn't say so in the topic | 21:20 |
| lardman | just fyi | 21:21 |
| MohammadAG | it was there | 21:21 |
| lardman | ok, so looking at supporting this uri in mBarcode: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptUrl | 21:22 |
| lardman | it seems to assume that all the "sections" which seem to be repos, will share a common base url | 21:22 |
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| lardman | I could implement this by assuming a shared base url in the absence of something else being provided, any thoughts? | 21:23 |
| lardman | ah, standard location anyway, thanks MohammadAG | 21:23 |
| MohammadAG | isn't that repository.maemo.org? | 21:23 |
| lardman | do all of our repos share that base url atm? I don;t know what the SSU one is off hand | 21:24 |
| MohammadAG | yes | 21:25 |
| lardman | ok, that's fine then | 21:25 |
| MohammadAG | repository.maemo.org/(extras (-testing/-devel)) / community-testing | 21:25 |
| lardman | what was the Nokia update one? Wasn't that a different base url? | 21:25 |
| MohammadAG | maemo.nokia.com | 21:26 |
| lardman | not expecting to see anything else from there, but still it might be worth making the code flexible enough to handle different bases too | 21:27 |
| thp | lardman: after implementing that, you have to talk to x-fade so we can have cool 2d barcodes on maemo.org/downloads | 21:35 |
| thp | :) | 21:35 |
| lardman | will do :) | 21:36 |
| lardman | did you send me the patch in the first place? | 21:36 |
| lardman | I can't remember who did, must check back through the TMO thread | 21:36 |
| thp | could be, don't remember ;) | 21:38 |
| lardman | :) | 21:38 |
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| MohammadAG | thp, have you noticed the hd_home_view_rotate_background function? | 23:00 |
| MohammadAG | it's for portrait mode | 23:00 |
| MohammadAG | portrait mode was planned after all | 23:02 |
| thp | wow. nice | 23:36 |
| MohammadAG | thp, | 23:36 |
| MohammadAG | <MohammadAG> http://i52.tinypic.com/x1etds.jpg | 23:36 |
| MohammadAG | <MohammadAG> http://i54.tinypic.com/i55f9f.jpg <-- needs work | 23:36 |
| MohammadAG | I wonder if I could get that configurable | 23:37 |
| thp | what's that? | 23:37 |
| MohammadAG | launcher modifications | 23:37 |
| MohammadAG | and the basis for portrait launcher, http://i54.tinypic.com/264tgmp.jpg | 23:39 |
| MohammadAG | I wonder how we could rotate it, it's not a gtk window that can have flags set | 23:39 |
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| thp | :) | 23:52 |
| thp | well, it's some kind of clutter actor | 23:52 |
| thp | clutter_actor_set_rotation ? | 23:53 |
| MohammadAG | hmm | 23:54 |
| thp | and maybe on_screen_size_changed () from src/util/hd-transition.c could come in handy ;) | 23:55 |
| MohammadAG | well | 23:55 |
| MohammadAG | I'm not sure how the menu should be rotated tbh | 23:55 |
| MohammadAG | if we rotate icons only, then the desktop is still landscape | 23:55 |
| MohammadAG | does rotating the whole desktop work for other non-window items? | 23:56 |
| thp | HdLauncherGrid is a ClutterActor | 23:56 |
| MohammadAG | so clutter_actor_set_rotation does the actual rotation of the windows? | 23:58 |
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