IRC log of #maemo-meeting for Tuesday, 2017-08-15

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sicelohi22:02
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juicemehiya!22:16
juicemesicelo o/22:16
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juicemeeLtMosen o/22:17
juicemehi guys!22:17
eLtMosenHi juiceme \o/22:17
sicelohow are you all? i'm doing quite great myself .. just slow 2g Internet, but nothing i'm not used to :)22:23
eekkelundEvening !:)22:23
eLtMosenYay, party can start, we have sicelo and eekkelund :D Nice to have syncron communication with you ;)22:25
eLtMosenA nice evening from germany22:25
sicelo:-)22:26
siceloi believe we also need to hopefully get together with members of previous council for handover22:26
juicemeI'm good, had this day working remote from home, the train drivers are on strike and traffic is chaos here :)22:27
sicelouh oh22:27
eLtMosenjuiceme, i heard about the strike even here in the news22:27
sicelothat can't be good at all22:27
juicemeoho, really!22:27
juicemehey, as council business; chem|st informed me that all Coding ompetition prize devices he had in his possession are now sent to winners22:28
juicemeso soon we can close that action point (now just follow up when people get their devices)22:29
eLtMosenso all prices got claimed, good. i read back in the logs that it was some work to contact everyone. well done!22:29
juicemewhich reminds me, eekkelund; I still have your Jolla-C, when do you want it back? :)22:30
juicemeyes, took some organizing :)22:30
sicelogreat news about the prizes :)22:30
juicemesicelo, eLtMosen, did you get the mail I sent to council list?22:32
siceloand kudos to who sorted out Maemo cert! was it you juiceme, or warfare, or someone else?22:32
siceloyes got council mail22:33
juicemeno, wasn't me.22:33
juicemecould have been xes/warfare/chem|st22:33
eekkelundWoah awesome! Thanks juice and chem|st! Ummnn next week juiceme?:D I will use it as pure dev device :)22:34
eekkelundSo letsencrypt cert now, thats good :)22:34
juicemebut it needs to be done again in 3 months I think, so we need to fix a procedure in place for it22:34
siceloyes,22:34
juicemeeekkelund; I'll bring it to you, some morning next week22:35
eLtMosenyes i got the mail, sorry 4 no reply22:35
siceloit's scriptable afaik, but yes it'd be good to have a human confirm that things succeeded22:35
juicemeno problem; you are free to use that whenever there is something to inform each other22:35
juicemethere's some other official council busines we need to take care of;22:36
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juiceme1. elect chairman22:36
juiceme2. call up the GA meeting22:37
eekkelundokay sounds good juiceme :) I can also come to pick it up if you dont feel like coming to central area22:37
juicemethe responsibilities of the chairman are pretty lax; just handle that topics are given proper discussion/handling and writing up minutes of meetings22:38
juicemeeekkelund, I'll easily come over to Ruoholahti on the morning. What time are you usually in office?22:39
eLtMoseni vote juiceme :D maybe in a possible next term i will volunteer :p22:40
siceloi wanted to vote eLtMosen :)22:40
juicemegood! we get quite a debate here!22:41
juicemeI'll vote eLtMosen too :922:41
eLtMosenwaaah, damn, you already know me well... accepted22:41
sicelo:p22:41
juicemenice!22:41
sicelothanks eLtMosen22:42
juicemeI'll help you with the minutes thing, never worry.22:42
siceloi can also hopefully help if ever at anytime you need a hand (time problems, etc.)22:42
eLtMosenNp, so what to do for General assembly meeting. Only officially announce it?22:42
juicemeyes, it is already running late.22:43
eLtMosenso we are to discuss and set the date and timing?22:43
juicemethe procedures are described in http://wiki.maemo.org/MaemoCommunity_eV22:45
juicemeas you can see the official rules of association are in german and there is english translation22:46
eekkelundjuice: I come usually around 9 but I can come earlier if that is too late :) Btw I got (temp) email(we get the real ones in January) so I think we are now colleagues :D22:46
juicemethe ยง9 of the rules defines the GA22:46
siceloquite a bit of stuff in that22:47
siceloneed a 4 week notice + agenda22:47
juicemesicelo, yes :)22:47
juicemeeekkelund, you got *.nokia email now? good!22:47
eekkelundext.nokia :D22:48
juicemesicelo, the meeting needs to be aranged so that the active members can participate, and it will be done on this channel.22:49
siceloyes. in fact i miss the time we had many attendees at meetings :)22:49
juicemeas for agenda, there should be nothing unusual, just presenting the economic status of the association and voting for board22:50
sicelois it here we also had meetbot?22:50
juicemeI am not sure do we have it, should be possible to set up since it is used on jolla meetings too22:50
siceloi seem to think we had it here .. or i'm mistaken. anyway, back to main topic :)22:51
juicememeetbot does make it a bit easier to arrange for minutes, but on normal council weekly meetings I think it's not that useful since we bounce from topic to topic and off-topic wuite freely...22:52
eLtMosenaccording to 4weeks prior notice first possible dates start september 15th if we get the annoncement out until friday.22:52
juicemeI'd say weekend is better than weekday, if I remember correctly we have previously had it on sundays22:53
juicemethere's people from almost all timezones22:53
siceloSunday sounds good22:54
eLtMosenyes, so its 09/17, 09/24 or 10/0122:54
sicelo9/17 .. my birthday22:55
eLtMosennoted :D22:55
juicemenice!22:55
juicemehow old will you be then?22:55
juiceme(I can guess mosen's age since we have met... :)22:56
sicelo3222:56
eLtMosenjuiceme, guess! I get underrated constantly ;)22:57
juicememosen, I'd say 3922:57
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eLtMosenmaaaan, on spot :D22:57
juicemeoho, really!22:58
juicemeit just felt like that :22:58
juiceme:)22:58
warfarejuiceme: certbot is running as a cronjob every day to check if certificates must be renewed.22:59
sicelothanks very much warfare :)22:59
eLtMosenwarfare, very job! Best possible solution found.22:59
juicemewarfare, that's good. Will it auto-renew or send a notice?22:59
warfarejuiceme: it should autorenew.23:00
eLtMosenlol, very good job23:00
juicemewarfare, excwllwnt job23:00
eLtMosenout of interest, what would startcom renewal had costed?23:01
eLtMosenregarding GA date, i vote 10/01. I forgot to tell i will leave tomorrow for 2 weeks holiday.23:03
eLtMoseni would like to help with announce / sending mails after holiday if it is ok for all and not done earlier23:04
juicemeOctober 1 is fine with me23:05
warfareeLtMosen: nothing, but startcom has been/will be removed from most browsers.23:05
juicemeit's not trusted, right?23:06
siceloyes, not anymore23:07
eLtMosenjuiceme, yes google will drop them in 57 chrome23:07
eLtMosenhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StartCom23:07
eLtMosentl;dr they where sold between to many parties23:08
juicemesounds pretty hazy when you look at it23:09
eLtMosenregarding meeting minutes, where to log them?23:09
juicemethe meetings need to be sent to the community mailing list (same list where council candidates announced) and also posted to TMO blog23:11
juicemeI have to admit the last council laxed a bit in the end and it has been a wile since anyting was posted23:11
eLtMosenok, so it is a matter of scrolling back the https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-meeting-irclog/%23maemo-meeting.2017-08-15.log.html and write a minutes summary23:11
juicemeyes!23:12
eLtMosenOk, i volunteer23:12
eLtMosenah, i see the past edits.23:12
juicemegood, you can see the old ones on mailing list archive and TMO23:13
juicemecheck here for example; http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2016-August/thread.html23:15
eLtMosenis October the first ok with you sicelo? we would have a decision to hold GA with your confirmation.23:15
siceloyes, perfect23:15
sicelowhat about times?23:15
eLtMosenit was 16:00 utc last time23:16
sicelofine with me :)23:16
juicemehere's a previous GA invitation; http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2016-August/006222.html23:16
juicemeI think we checked that UTC 16:00 was suitable for most people23:17
juicemeThis time the invitation is simpler, wedon't have the topic #5 of the last time, when there was a referendum to handle23:18
eLtMosenDo we have other topics that do not fit "Any other business"? i propose "Honorary member status for Guido Griese / Win7Mac".23:26
juicemeyes, that is good topic! Others I have not in my mind now.23:29
juicemeOK, if that's settled, we could close the meeting?23:31
juicemetime for me to go sleep :)23:32
siceloi have none yet too. goodnight23:32
eLtMosenyes, if sicelo is fine with my topic proposal i will try to do the meeting minutes wrapup before i leave tomorrow23:32
juicemeOK, let's discuss that over mail tomorrow.23:33
juicemenite!23:33
eLtMosengn8 all!23:33

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