IRC log of #maemo-meeting for Tuesday, 2015-08-18

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juicemehi!23:01
chem|stlow23:02
juicemechem|st, o/23:02
peterleinchenmiddle23:02
juicemepeterleinchen, o/23:02
juicemeall grounds covered then :)23:02
chem|stso when are elections? what is the electorate23:03
juicemewell23:03
chem|stwell what?23:03
chem|st2 1/2 weeks right?23:04
juicemechecking but wiki don't open23:04
juicemeyes23:05
juicemesorry about that. 1.5 weeks until final candidate setting23:06
juicemethen, one week for candidate contemplation, then elections23:06
juicemewin7mac and gryllida are still missing their introductory piece on the wiki23:07
juicemeI'd like to see those soon :)23:07
juicemeah, same goes with HtheB23:08
juicemeso we have 7 valid candidates, no change in that list since last week23:08
peterleinchenand no question or comment at all in(re-)announcement(s)23:10
juicemeyep23:10
juicemeso, what else is current?23:17
peterleinchenno current, just voltage ;)23:18
juicemehehe23:18
peterleinchenI would say no AOB, or?23:19
peterleinchenso what about status of transfer?23:19
juicemewell, none probably23:19
peterleinchenand TMs?23:19
chem|stpeterleinchen: transfer?23:19
juicemeno news yet23:19
juicemetransfer of ownership from Nokia to MCeV23:20
peterleinchenHiFo -> e.V.23:20
juicemeah that one23:20
juicemedone deal I think23:20
peterleinchenif so I guess it would be nice to announce23:21
chem|stpeterleinchen: that is pretty old stuff, transfer was done ages ago23:22
chem|stpeterleinchen: we are to inform Nokia about a transfer, not ask them if it is ok... if we meet the requirements all good23:23
peterleinchenokay!23:23
peterleinchensomehow I missed it23:23
juicemeI think what he means is that there should be an announcement of some sort about it on TMO & mailing list23:23
peterleinchenand I guess rest of community then too23:24
peterleinchenjuiceme, yep!23:24
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juicemepmgc, hi!23:27
chem|stjuiceme: I was thinking about a rewirtten frontpage and a subsection cleanup where we home e.V. in midgard, I voiced those thoughts to council and others several times23:27
pmgcheya everybody! :D23:27
chem|stand the move was announced on hifo webpage iirc23:27
juicemechem|st, that is to make it cleaner to maintain, right?23:30
juicemebut all drastic changes will probably meet resistance23:30
chem|stthat too but basically all midgard maemo.org/ is outdated info23:30
juicemetrue23:31
chem|stjuiceme: no resistance jsut noone insane enough to do it23:31
chem|stmidgard is a nightmare, people wrote stuff on CSS pages as they did not find a way to publish it in the right place23:32
juicemewell, I for example have no idea how the source looks like, is it easy or difficult to modify/clean. I have only heard that midgard is a bit of its own beast :)23:32
juicemeah23:32
chem|stso they used the css to draw html on a page, I did the same for that nokia announcement frontpage as I did not find out how to do it another way either23:33
juicemeis there any documentation how it should be done right, or is it just word-of-mouth?23:33
chem|stnot even the original developer company will touch it, it is a grown construct where everything seems to be part of its root, cut one end and the tree falls23:34
juicemeso how do you propose to do it then?23:35
chem|stsomeone with enough spare time to find out how to alter at least that info stuff about community etc23:35
juicemehow many people currently have edit permissions to it?23:36
chem|stI found one page within 2-3h forth and back, it wasn't the one I was looking for but well, at least I found something23:36
chem|st5-8 probably, all are scared23:37
chem|stimho from scratch is for a skilled team probably easier than changing it23:43
juicemeso you propose a task force to do it?23:44
chem|styeah find skilled people23:47
peterleinchensorry, do not look at me ;)23:47
peterleinchenmanaged to stay away from that 'modern' internet stuff :)23:48
juicemewell, we do have people skilled in various web-development arts23:48
juicemeat least I think so, people skilled with many things on TMO23:48
juicemepeterleinchen, me too, am still using "vi" to edit html files... :)23:49
peterleinchenjuiceme, :)23:49
chem|stjuiceme: I do not know the frameworks but it isn't an easy task23:49
juicemecould be if we write a thread on TMO, ask for people to volunteer for it? Then select and appoint some group to do it (if we get anybody intrested)23:50
chem|stmidgard is so highly adapted to what maemo.org needs that it is only midgard core and iirc even that is modified23:50
peterleinchenanother sorry, but need to leave. gn23:54
juicemeokay23:54
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chem|stI never looked at source stuff though, the publishing backend is painful and it seems whoever set the pages up initially did like to use pointers instead of content and built everything into separate function boxes as there was "some" variable content on every page, instead of just putting the variable content in a box23:59
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