IRC log of #maemo-meeting for Tuesday, 2015-05-05

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juicemeHiya all \o/23:00
peterleinchenjuicem, hi23:00
juicemepeterleinchen :)23:01
peterleinchenoksana, are you still/again getting breakfast? ;)23:06
peterleinchenthree topics from my side:23:07
juicemeshoot23:07
peterleinchenfirst discuss referendum23:07
freemangordonmeeting there?23:07
peterleinchensecond repo down hosting of ...23:07
juicemefreemangordon, hi23:07
freemangordonhmm, "here"?23:07
freemangordonhi23:07
peterleinchenthird do not remember (maybe later) ....23:09
peterleinchenfreemangordon, hi23:09
juicemepeterleinchen, okay, 2 out of 3 is OK :)23:09
peterleinchenthird mail to ... (transfer HiFo to eV)23:10
peterleinchenjuiceme :D23:10
juicemeregarding the referendum, yeah, that needs to be set to motion I guess.23:12
juicemeit has kind of been there on the background, needs to be done sooner or later to clear up the table23:12
peterleinchenyes it needs motion23:12
peterleinchenbut I personally would vote for: 'let it be as it is' (so no need)23:13
freemangordonIf you are unaware, recently FB migrated all API v1.0 applications (like the one in N900, dunno about N9/50) to v2.0. https://developers.facebook.com/docs/apps/api-v1-deprecation . As a result, FB sharing plugin stopped working, again. Could someone contact this lady https://www.facebook.com/daphnewon and request for the community to take ownership of n900 facebook application, so we can go through FB review process and make sharing plugin working a23:13
juicemefreemangordon, I think that was handled about 2 weeks ago, or is this a new finding?23:14
freemangordonnew23:14
juicemelet me check logs23:15
juicemeah23:15
freemangordonI contacted her 2 weeks ago and she fixed what was broken back then23:15
freemangordonbut FB broke it again23:15
juicemefreemangordon, as you know her now and have email contact, could you do it again then?23:16
freemangordonI wrote her for the problem a couple of days ago, but still no answer. Not to say I don;t really think I am the one to deal with that issue, after all i am not an "official" represenatative of the community23:17
freemangordonno email contact, only FB23:17
freemangordon"wrote" == "sent message in FB chat"23:17
juicemeah23:18
juicemesomebody from Council could do it I hope then. I myself have no FB so am out23:19
peterleinchenjuiceme, guess no one of uses FB, right?23:19
juicemenot many people I know do :)23:19
juicemenever bothered to make an account, really23:20
peterleinchenfreemangordon, no mail address or other contact?23:20
freemangordonafaik chem|st has FB account, no idea if he is in the council though, I am a bit confused who is where, with all this hif, mcev, ect stuff :)23:20
freemangordonpeterleinchen: nothing more but FB account23:20
peterleinchenuh23:21
freemangordonbtu I think behind this account stands the real person, so it would be possible to find some other contact23:21
juicemegood example of where it leads, as different messaging systems do not interoperate...23:22
juicemeemail should be the least common denominator23:22
freemangordonjuiceme: well, FB issued deprecation warning 4 years ago :)23:22
freemangordonah, you meant...23:22
juicemeI meant, email is just about the only federated service that works worldwide23:23
peterleinchenchemist is not council but board member of Maemo eV (whatever that is atm). so kinf of official represantative23:23
freemangordonjuiceme: I'd rather say it is for good, as I don't really want my email accessible to random people on FB.23:24
freemangordonpeterleinchen: even better than23:24
freemangordon*then23:24
peterleinchengood23:24
juicemethe modern thingies, fb, telegram, twitter, skype, whatsapp,, one has to have account in *all* of them, it is not enough if you have account in one service to reach people in other services... :(23:25
peterleinchenwhat is this FB plugin? where located? why we need maintainership?23:25
juicemefreemangordon, actually it would not be too bad if email was federated with facebook or whatever... you can always set up spanfilters23:26
freemangordonpeterleinchen: this is FB photo/video sharing plugin23:31
freemangordonthe reason is https://developers.facebook.com/docs/apps/api-v1-deprecation - "If your app uses Facebook Login and asks for more than public_profile, email or user_friends your app must go through Login Review."23:31
freemangordon"where located?" - can't parse :)23:32
juiceme:)23:32
peterleinchenin our repo? I do not get why we need to ask her?23:35
juicemeThere was something that needed registration from facebook23:35
juicemeright?23:35
freemangordonpeterleinchen: the plugin itself (the binary code) is in our rep, but there is a corresponding "application" registered on FB, which has "permission" - what it can do - post, publish, etc23:41
freemangordonthe FB application was registered on FB back in 2009 (afaik) by nokia23:42
freemangordonevery FB application has administrators, that ^^^ lady being one of them23:42
peterleinchenfreemangordon, okay got it. thanks23:43
freemangordonshe has the rights to add other people as administrators. we need such an administrator account in order to request FB to review the application according to those new rules23:43
juicemeIs the update process itself easy/quick to do, providing somebody has the maintainer rights?23:43
freemangordonok23:43
freemangordonjuiceme: no idea, but I guess we can always ask marxian for help :)23:44
juicemeyes23:44
freemangordonanything else? as I am about to go afk.23:48
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juicemenothing related to that, from me23:49
juicemeOksanaa, morning :)23:49
OksanaaMoin :-)23:49
peterleinchenfreemangordon, so you are going to contact chemist?23:54
peterleinchenosana, hi :)23:54
freemangordonpeterleinchen: should I?23:54
juicemeso, back to topics of the week. peterleinchen introduced 3 items; referendum, repositories being down and the letter to HiFO23:54
freemangordonpeterleinchen: ok, will tell him about the issue23:55
peterleinchenif you could phrase the letter for him I guess that would make it more easy for him (also to understand the issue, pointing to our log)23:56
juicemefreemangordon, last time when you got daphnewon to fix the FB thingy, did you ask if she was willing to add others to the admin ring?23:56
juicemepeterleinchen I think chemist is aware, the same thing was discussed something like 2 weeks ago23:57
juicemebut I don't understand how FB was able to break the API again, in so littlie time...23:58
peterleinchenNokia closing down the repos led to some confusion and problems23:58
juiceme(I am in the understanding that it *was* fixed lat  time, since you said it is a new thing23:58
juiceme)23:58
juicemefreemangordon, ^^^23:59
peterleinchenafaik there were open (foss) packages but also propietary stuff hindering us to host that on maemo.org???23:59

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