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| peterleinchen | Hi! | 22:00 |
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| juiceme | hia all! \o/ | 22:01 |
| Atomic_F0vnB | hi | 22:01 |
| Atomic_F0vnB | hny | 22:01 |
| juiceme | Atomic_F0vnB, welcome :) | 22:01 |
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| juiceme | peterleinchen, hello! | 22:02 |
| peterleinchen | juicme, also to you a very kind hello :) | 22:02 |
| juiceme | :) | 22:02 |
| juiceme | back home I am... tomorrow to work | 22:02 |
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| juiceme | RzR2, hiya | 22:03 |
| juiceme | RzR, changing hats at will? :D | 22:03 |
| RzR2 | hi from my bb10ac | 22:03 |
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| juiceme | heh | 22:05 |
| peterleinchen | will be back ... | 22:05 |
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| RzR | so this will be my last meeting as councillor | 22:05 |
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| RzR | is the new team here? | 22:06 |
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| RzR | Oksana: here? | 22:09 |
| juiceme | Nobody announced themselves yet | 22:09 |
| peterleinchen | looks like still sleeping? | 22:10 |
| peterleinchen | (oksana I meant) | 22:10 |
| juiceme | probably. What's the time in AUS now? | 22:10 |
| peterleinchen | UTC+11 | 22:10 |
| juiceme | it's afternoon in the states where gerbick is | 22:10 |
| peterleinchen | utc-5 | 22:11 |
| juiceme | it's going to be tricky for us... | 22:11 |
| RzR | may we setup an othere meeting on mornings then | 22:11 |
| peterleinchen | guess we should wait for the others | 22:12 |
| peterleinchen | afk | 22:12 |
| juiceme | if we had meeting a few hours later, say 22:00 UTC or 23:00 UTC, then it'd be late afternoon in USA and morning in AUS, would that be OK? | 22:12 |
| RzR | or pm then | 22:12 |
| RzR | I could handle that | 22:13 |
| juiceme | please :) | 22:13 |
| Oksana | Good morning | 22:13 |
| RzR | Oksana: happy new year in the other side of the globe | 22:14 |
| Oksana | Happy New Year to you, too :-) | 22:14 |
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| RzR | 1st let me congratulate you all | 22:14 |
| gerbick | sorry for running late. | 22:15 |
| juiceme | gerbick, welcome :) | 22:15 |
| juiceme | np | 22:15 |
| RzR | Not a problem where is mtraceur? | 22:15 |
| juiceme | Oksana, welcome :) | 22:15 |
| Oksana | Welcome :-) | 22:15 |
| juiceme | mtraceur, he's from USA too right? | 22:16 |
| juiceme | what timezone? | 22:16 |
| RzR | at least n america | 22:16 |
| gerbick | didn't think so | 22:16 |
| juiceme | ah ok | 22:17 |
| Oksana | /msg NickServ Info MentalistTraceur | 22:17 |
| RzR | he left on halloween | 22:18 |
| RzR | suspicious isn't it? ;) | 22:19 |
| RzR | I need to setup my addr to maemo someday | 22:19 |
| juiceme | Oksana, yes I see, long time since he wa on irc | 22:19 |
| RzR | ping him on tmo | 22:20 |
| gerbick | so what are the collective timezones for the new crew versus the old crew? | 22:23 |
| RzR | up to you | 22:23 |
| gerbick | are we more scattered? | 22:23 |
| Oksana | GMT+11 here | 22:23 |
| RzR | you need to decide when all are together | 22:24 |
| gerbick | GMT +5 here | 22:24 |
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| RzR | give your preferences on tmo and see if traceur can join too | 22:25 |
| gerbick | will do. I'm more free at night, usually can think in English then too | 22:26 |
| juiceme | svetlana, hiya | 22:26 |
| svetlana | Hi. | 22:27 |
| juiceme | I was thinking if we do this a bit later, then it'd be late afternoon in USA and morning in AUS | 22:27 |
| RzR | gerbick: aren't u native speaker? I am not as you can read the funny English I use | 22:27 |
| juiceme | however, the other way would be OK for me, generally mornings would work OK. | 22:28 |
| gerbick | native American, so not sure if that qualifies me enough to claim English as my first language - we try hard to not destroy the Queen's English too badly. | 22:28 |
| juiceme | then if we took, let's say 07:00 UTC, that'd be after midingtht for gerbick and evening for oksana | 22:29 |
| gerbick | that'd work for me | 22:29 |
| Oksana | Any time between 20:00 UTC and 5:00 UTC would work for me, I suppose. | 22:29 |
| gerbick | I'm usually awake and working with China | 22:29 |
| juiceme | that leaves peterleinchen, it would be pretty early as I think his TZ is UTC+1 | 22:30 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | o/ all, congrats to the new council members. | 22:30 |
| juiceme | sixwheeledbeast, hiya :) | 22:30 |
| RzR | hi | 22:31 |
| gerbick | thanks! surprised to be listed alongside cool contributors. | 22:31 |
| Oksana | moin | 22:31 |
| * sixwheeledbeast^ is has the flu so is only here in spirit... | 22:31 | |
| Oksana | Get well soon! | 22:32 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | ta | 22:32 |
| juiceme | get well, flu's too bad | 22:32 |
| RzR | what doesn't kill you makes you stronger | 22:32 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | I'll agree with you when I can walk in a straight line and feel a bit more human again. | 22:33 |
| Oksana | I sent a PM via TMO to Mentalist Traceur. Should I send a email, too? | 22:34 |
| juiceme | would not hurt | 22:34 |
| gerbick | so is this going to be the only time the old council will meet with the new for a transference or is there a longer period and/or opportunities? | 22:36 |
| juiceme | okay, about the council mailing list. You all need to be added to the list so we can share isead and be contacted as a group. | 22:36 |
| juiceme | gerbick, I'd say not once-for-ever, as I believe RzR's not going anywhere :) | 22:37 |
| juiceme | and meetings at #maemo-meeting are public where any community members can voice out | 22:37 |
| RzR | I can remain here the next 6 months | 22:37 |
| Oksana | :-) | 22:37 |
| juiceme | xes, are you here? | 22:37 |
| juiceme | xes, could you arrange the council mailing list addresses for new mwmbers? | 22:38 |
| * peterleinchen is partially back (water troubles in house ...) | 22:38 | |
| Oksana | /msg NickServ Info mtraceur | 22:38 |
| RzR | btw I am 100% the old council | 22:38 |
| peterleinchen | hi to all (again) | 22:38 |
| juiceme | oo, hppe not anything like a river flooding thru your basement? | 22:39 |
| gerbick | I'm typing and in a (boring) meeting. so forgive my delays | 22:39 |
| peterleinchen | especially gerbick, oksana | 22:39 |
| peterleinchen | did you already agree on time? | 22:39 |
| gerbick | I'd say no | 22:39 |
| juiceme | gerbick, not an uncommon thing for me also :) | 22:39 |
| * peterleinchen reading log | 22:39 | |
| juiceme | peterleinchen, how are you for a morning person :) :) | 22:40 |
| peterleinchen | :( | 22:40 |
| juiceme | thought so... | 22:40 |
| peterleinchen | is taht enough comment? :) | 22:40 |
| Oksana | UTC: 20:00-to-5:00 would work for me. 11:00-13:00 would also work. | 22:40 |
| peterleinchen | as said 20:00utc perfect | 22:41 |
| peterleinchen | but also okay (a bit) later | 22:41 |
| juiceme | we'll need opinion of mtraceur too | 22:41 |
| RzR | And assign roles then | 22:43 |
| RzR | Btw do u know | 22:45 |
| Oksana | ? | 22:45 |
| RzR | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Community_Council/Council_Q2_2014/Agenda | 22:45 |
| RzR | chair for minutes etc | 22:46 |
| RzR | I used to maintain wiki pages and forum | 22:46 |
| Oksana | Okay, besides mailing list: what about IRC cloaks? Oh, cool: http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Community_Council/Council_Q4_2014/Agenda | 22:46 |
| RzR | would like someone to continue doing this | 22:46 |
| RzR | Oksana: would u like to replace me? | 22:47 |
| juiceme | who's handy with wiki? | 22:47 |
| RzR | or gerbick ? | 22:47 |
| Oksana | I like Wiki. | 22:47 |
| RzR | yea | 22:47 |
| RzR | definitely a job for wikiwide | 22:48 |
| RzR | so basically the page should be setup for new council | 22:48 |
| RzR | Oksana: ask sixwheeledbeast someday | 22:49 |
| Oksana | Okay, will ask. | 22:50 |
| RzR | you can use the same form or improve it | 22:50 |
| RzR | until it is setup then use that one | 22:50 |
| RzR | maybe you can't edit it now | 22:50 |
| RzR | then u can edit | 22:50 |
| gerbick | catching up | 22:51 |
| peterleinchen | what about chair then? as i would have liked to nominate oksana as chair? | 22:51 |
| RzR | http://wiki.maemo.org/Talk:Task:Community_Council/Council_Q2_2014/Agenda | 22:51 |
| gerbick | that'll work - Oksana for chair seconded | 22:51 |
| RzR | Oksana: then it will be cut and paste for new page | 22:52 |
| Oksana | Link? I'm currently at Council_Q4_2014/Agenda , then I will move to Community_Council | 22:53 |
| RzR | talk page upper | 22:53 |
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| Oksana | Hi! | 22:54 |
| juiceme | MentalistTraceur, welcome :) | 22:54 |
| RzR | hi | 22:54 |
| peterleinchen | mentalisttraceur, welcome | 22:54 |
| juiceme | now we are all present, nice! | 22:54 |
| MentalistTraceur | Sorry for late arrival, wasn't able to get to internet at the right time. | 22:54 |
| gerbick | welcome aboard | 22:54 |
| juiceme | first thing I need to ask, what's your timezone? | 22:54 |
| juiceme | we have been looking at possible meeting slots | 22:55 |
| MentalistTraceur | UTC -5 | 22:55 |
| RzR | and happy new 0.5 year | 22:55 |
| juiceme | MentalistTraceur, so same as gerbick's | 22:55 |
| juiceme | good | 22:55 |
| juiceme | and happy new year btw | 22:55 |
| peterleinchen | yep, to all of us | 22:55 |
| MentalistTraceur | Thank you, and happy new year to everyone here from myself as well. | 22:56 |
| RzR | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council needs to edited too | 22:59 |
| juiceme | yes, RzR can you do it? | 23:01 |
| RzR | sure | 23:01 |
| peterleinchen | so what time will be appropriate for all of us? | 23:01 |
| Oksana | Take a look at http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Community_Council/Council_Q4_2014/Agenda | 23:02 |
| MentalistTraceur | So, can someone link me to the election results? I didn't see them in my inbox for some reason like I thought I had on prior elections... | 23:03 |
| Oksana | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1455215&postcount=51 UTC: 20:00-to-5:00 would work for me. 11:00-13:00 would also work. Otherwise... Good exercise for writing Chatzilla script to deliver specific messages at specific time to specific place. | 23:03 |
| * chem|st is reading but occupied - grats to the new elected | 23:03 | |
| Oksana | Thank you! | 23:03 |
| Oksana | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1455133&postcount=45 | 23:04 |
| Oksana | For some reason, the automatic calculation does not work | 23:05 |
| MentalistTraceur | So for time slots, I have work from UTC ~13:00 to UTC ~22:00, roughly speaking. Work has an unfortunate tendency to sometimes require us to work late for releases after hours, so that may come up some times, though it probably won't collide with council meetings all that often... | 23:06 |
| RzR | too many candidates and too many voters ;) | 23:06 |
| MentalistTraceur | I will make myself available at any other times besides that, I'm not picky about my sleep schedule. | 23:07 |
| peterleinchen | time slot would then look like start at 22:00UTC? | 23:08 |
| peterleinchen | quite late for me | 23:08 |
| peterleinchen | and even more late for juiceme | 23:08 |
| juiceme | hi sorry I was writing a mail and missed a bit of talk... | 23:09 |
| MentalistTraceur | Hmm... I can also attempt to do council meetings using my lunch time during work, which is fine but wouldn't allow me to stay as long. Might not be an issue nowadays, but when I was last on Council, sessions tended to run longer than an hour, often two hours even. | 23:10 |
| juiceme | as I said, I am willing to go few hours later than UTC 20:00, but not too much... 22:00 could be OK | 23:10 |
| peterleinchen | luch time for mtraceur/gerbick would be early evening (family dinner time) | 23:11 |
| juiceme | Oksana, yes there was some strange thing in the automatic calculation for this latest election, it just would not start :( The previous elections computed OK when I redid them, but not this one. | 23:12 |
| peterleinchen | so I would prefer also 22:00utc (which is 23:00 and in summer 00:00) | 23:12 |
| Oksana | Ok. Any logs? | 23:12 |
| juiceme | none, really. nothing anomalous | 23:13 |
| juiceme | it's just php scripts | 23:13 |
| juiceme | not logging much, so needs to add logging and go on with it. xes was checking it last as I know | 23:13 |
| juiceme | but it needs to be checked to prevent from happening again. | 23:14 |
| Oksana | Maybe, empty ballots confused it? | 23:14 |
| juiceme | the fallback is to calculate the results offline and upload the HTML results to database, as was done now | 23:14 |
| juiceme | ah, could be it. | 23:15 |
| Oksana | Previous election had 83 ballots, all non-empty. | 23:15 |
| juiceme | I did not check if previous elections had those | 23:15 |
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| juiceme | however, the vote handling is done in the OpenSTV module and it does not worry about empties | 23:15 |
| Oksana | This one had same problem, too. http://maemo.org/vote/votes.php?election_id=36 | 23:16 |
| Oksana | One empty ballot ^ | 23:16 |
| juiceme | so unless the problem was in feeding the ballots to STV, then I'd sa that's not the bug | 23:16 |
| juiceme | ah" | 23:17 |
| juiceme | Oksana I think you nailed it! | 23:17 |
| Oksana | This one was fine. Despite empty ballots, it auto-did it. http://maemo.org/vote/results.php?election_id=35 | 23:17 |
| juiceme | it's probably the DB export to STV that gives :) | 23:17 |
| Oksana | So, it's not that simple. But empty ballots are a factor. | 23:17 |
| MentalistTraceur | Well, [opinionated statement incoming] working with PHP is an experience kinda like working with the Bourne shell, syntax is different but otherwise it's just slightly less-breakage-prone-if-not-carefuly but slightly more-thematically-inconsistent and a bit less-sensible-when-you-do-understand-the-nuances, so: Where's the source code which does the calculating? | 23:18 |
| MentalistTraceur | (By which I mean to say: I'm curious if I can figure it out from looking at the code.) | 23:19 |
| Oksana | http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_team/How_Elections_Work#Technical_Details | 23:20 |
| MentalistTraceur | Awesome, thank you. | 23:20 |
| juiceme | MentalistTraceur, the php code is for example here: https://toosa.swagman.org/svn/maemo_elections | 23:20 |
| juiceme | (in my svn repo) | 23:21 |
| juiceme | there's also the DB schema in the directory. | 23:21 |
| juiceme | the actual calculations are run with OpenSTV | 23:21 |
| MentalistTraceur | juiceme: Can't seem to get a DNS resolution for that subdomain, so can't load. | 23:24 |
| MentalistTraceur | Anyway, I don't want to sidetrack us. | 23:24 |
| MentalistTraceur | ..with my tangent of wanting to get at the source code, so I'll stow away my questions on that for now. | 23:25 |
| RzR | ;) | 23:26 |
| peterleinchen | mentalisttraceur, try 88.115.66.252 | 23:26 |
| juiceme | peterleinchen, thanks. It's true all DNSes do not correctly resolve that. | 23:27 |
| juiceme | ooo-kay. So what's the final verdict on the meeting times? | 23:28 |
| MentalistTraceur | So, it sounded like juiceme and peterleinchen found 22 UTC on the edge of acceptable, and that time is obviously fine by me. What about gerbick and Wikiwide? | 23:28 |
| MentalistTraceur | Or I guess s/Wikiwide/Oksana/ to use the IRC handle. | 23:29 |
| Oksana | For me, it's acceptable. gerbick? | 23:30 |
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| Oksana | Good morning | 23:31 |
| peterleinchen | 21:00UTc would be better ;) | 23:31 |
| peterleinchen | juiceme is okay with that and oksana as well | 23:32 |
| Oksana | UTC: 20:00-to-5:00 would work for me. 11:00-13:00 would also work. | 23:32 |
| peterleinchen | mtraceur probably (at least with 22:00) | 23:32 |
| peterleinchen | gerbick, your ranges,please | 23:32 |
| gerbick | that'll work. | 23:32 |
| gerbick | I'm pretty easy going to be honest. | 23:33 |
| peterleinchen | which one? 21 or 22? | 23:33 |
| RzR | hi Win7Mac | 23:33 |
| Win7Mac | Hi and welcome to new council | 23:33 |
| MentalistTraceur | Hi Win7Mac | 23:33 |
| Win7Mac | hi MentalistTraceur :) | 23:34 |
| Win7Mac | really glad to see you here | 23:34 |
| MentalistTraceur | Well, the people willed it, I guess. | 23:34 |
| peterleinchen | mentalisttraceur, would you also be okay with 21:00UTC? | 23:35 |
| peterleinchen | win7mac,hi and thx | 23:35 |
| gerbick | 20-22 is fine. I'll just have to refine how I get to IRC since I'll be in the office | 23:36 |
| MentalistTraceur | peterleinchen: I think on most days it will likely not be too much of a problem, but it does overlap with the last hour of the 'official' workday, so on some days I might get stuck in a meeting or something between 21 UTC and 22 UTC. | 23:37 |
| peterleinchen | is another day better? (for me not really, but possibly) | 23:38 |
| MentalistTraceur | (On weekends I can be available for any time slot.) | 23:38 |
| juiceme | Win7Mac, hi! | 23:39 |
| MentalistTraceur | Anyway, if you all find 21 preferable to 22, I don't want to be the one holding you back. | 23:39 |
| gerbick | what's up Win7Mac | 23:39 |
| MentalistTraceur | Schedule it for 21, and I'll be able to make it on most days, I suspect. | 23:39 |
| juiceme | 21:00 utc it is, then | 23:39 |
| juiceme | so, what weekdays do you prefer? | 23:39 |
| gerbick | sounds good. that'll land at the end of Tue day, can afford me to avoid traffic. | 23:40 |
| gerbick | *the | 23:40 |
| peterleinchen | yep, fixed! (for the moment) | 23:40 |
| juiceme | the current tuesday is just arbittraty choice | 23:40 |
| MentalistTraceur | Friday gets my vote for weekdays, now that we have 21 UTC as the time slot. | 23:40 |
| gerbick | Thursday is a very bad day for me. all others are fine | 23:40 |
| peterleinchen | tuesday is fine | 23:41 |
| juiceme | for me weekdays are OK, and currently weekends also | 23:41 |
| peterleinchen | wednesday not really possible | 23:41 |
| juiceme | Oksana, what's your preference? | 23:41 |
| Oksana | Tuesday's fine, by me. It's better than Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, or Saturday. | 23:41 |
| peterleinchen | oksana, :) you forgot thursday ;) | 23:42 |
| juiceme | sounds that tuesday's no problem for most of us, then? | 23:42 |
| juiceme | if no objections, let's set it (as for current) 21:00 UTC on tuesdays. | 23:43 |
| gerbick | yep. dienstag works for me | 23:43 |
| peterleinchen | let us fix it then 8for the moment) | 23:44 |
| Oksana | Ok. It's just, UTC Friday is Saturday morning for me, and weekends are hectic and unpredictable. | 23:44 |
| juiceme | understood | 23:44 |
| peterleinchen | as we all are here now, lets talk about the chair | 23:44 |
| MentalistTraceur | Yes, I think Tuesday's fine for me as well. (Double checking right now to make sure that I'm not forgetting some regular weekly or biweekly meeting or something, but those are rarely that 'stable' anyway...) | 23:45 |
| juiceme | a side note though... how many of you have been in Council before? | 23:45 |
| * MentalistTraceur raises hand | 23:45 | |
| MentalistTraceur | Once. | 23:45 |
| * peterleinchen too | 23:45 | |
| juiceme | MentalistTraceur, how was it on your day? | 23:45 |
| juiceme | peterleinchen, sure :) | 23:46 |
| juiceme | what I was sounding is if we have here people whoio did it yesteryear, what has changed and so on | 23:46 |
| gerbick | 1st timer here. so be gentle, I know nothing | 23:46 |
| juiceme | :) | 23:47 |
| peterleinchen | gerbick, like all of us once :) | 23:47 |
| MentalistTraceur | My term was right after HiFo was established. I remember lots of debate about details of wording, what action to take or not to take or what was even possible, and having to write up long emails/messages on behalf of the council. | 23:47 |
| juiceme | I guess that was pretty turbulent | 23:47 |
| peterleinchen | juiceme, like our first weeks ;) | 23:48 |
| juiceme | yes | 23:48 |
| Win7Mac | gerbick, MentalistTraceur: if you need info on the MC eV, please feel free to pester me directly anytime or post here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94337 | 23:49 |
| peterleinchen | win7mac, thanks | 23:49 |
| juiceme | yes! Win7Mac is the expert on that :) | 23:49 |
| peterleinchen | same counts for oksana, ovc | 23:49 |
| Win7Mac | ofc ;) | 23:50 |
| gerbick | will do. have tons of questions | 23:50 |
| peterleinchen | Win7Mac, yep | 23:50 |
| peterleinchen | once more the question about chair: who we will assign? | 23:51 |
| Win7Mac | juiceme did very well... | 23:51 |
| peterleinchen | as JUICEME, MENTALISTTRACEUR, and PETERLEINCHEN already were | 23:51 |
| juiceme | so, we need to choose Council Chair in the first meeting, and Oksana was proposed. | 23:51 |
| gerbick | we sorta said Oksana earlier | 23:52 |
| peterleinchen | I would go for oksana (or gerbick)? | 23:52 |
| gerbick | no, not gerbick | 23:52 |
| Win7Mac | hehehe | 23:52 |
| juiceme | tradition is that first-timers will be chosen :) | 23:52 |
| Oksana | What will the chair be doing? | 23:52 |
| peterleinchen | gerbick, who did say so? ;) | 23:52 |
| juiceme | primary thing is to keep the minutes and announce things | 23:53 |
| gerbick | I rarely follow traditions ;) | 23:53 |
| peterleinchen | oksana, as juiceme said | 23:53 |
| Oksana | Take a look at: http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | 23:53 |
| juiceme | and if we need to vote, tally the votes | 23:53 |
| peterleinchen | and trying to keep meetings in line (if possible :) | 23:53 |
| Oksana | On-topic? And remind about the agenda? | 23:54 |
| peterleinchen | but in last council we did that stuff all together (except minutes) | 23:54 |
| chem|st | juiceme: don't forget that council and especially chair is to announce general assembly of the eV and hold the assembly | 23:54 |
| MentalistTraceur | If more detail is desired about my experience: There was a semi-regular recurrance of hostility between some people, myself on some of those occasions included... Otherwise, lots of Joerg organizing the techstaff and helping keep stuff alive on that front (he and I had our disagreements but he deserves recognition for that). Besides that I recall qwazix trying to follow up with Nokia ... | 23:54 |
| juiceme | Oksana, yes | 23:54 |
| MentalistTraceur | ... about a few award devices (N9/N950 or something) which had been lost in the mail or something.. That ultimately got dropped just before. Besides that we were asked to deal with some potentially device (N900) damaging packages in the community repos. For the most part others besides me had things to bring up for the agenda, and we occasionally took up discussion of concerns ... | 23:54 |
| MentalistTraceur | ... community members brought up during the meeting., e.g. the harmful packages thing, various concerns about the referrendum/politics that went on back then, the aforementioned lost devices. | 23:54 |
| MentalistTraceur | (I realize convo kinda moved on by now) | 23:54 |
| juiceme | chem|st, yes, that too. on the official meetings there is the role set by the bylabs | 23:55 |
| juiceme | s/bylabs/bylaws/ | 23:55 |
| MentalistTraceur | I'm fine with Oksana, by the way, no objections here. | 23:57 |
| juiceme | MentalistTraceur, I suppose council tasks evolve with time just as everything else. | 23:57 |
| Oksana | Tally the votes: should be easy. Remind about topics-agenda: should be easy. Write the meetings down to wiki: no problem. Keeping the minutes - what exactly is that? | 23:57 |
| juiceme | some things are still valid, working with techstaff, holding elections, | 23:58 |
| RzR | before I leave feel free to contact me about ongoing tasks I am not giving up | 23:58 |
| Oksana | Thank you :-) | 23:58 |
| peterleinchen | RzR, thnanks in advance | 23:58 |
| peterleinchen | s/thnanks/THANKS/ | 23:59 |
| juiceme | Oksana, the meeting log is stored to web automatically, and it is shotrened to minutes and posted to the Maemo mailing list and blog page | 23:59 |
| Oksana | Ok, so keeping minutes involves writing down to Wiki page the questions-and-decisions. | 23:59 |
| MentalistTraceur | Oksana: you know those "Council Meeting Minutes" emails we get on the community mailing list (and when things work they're posted to wiki and TMO forum too)? | 23:59 |
| RzR | but I feel the transition will be fast and smooth | 23:59 |
| juiceme | MentalistTraceur, exactly | 23:59 |
| Oksana | MentalistTraceur: Thanks, will look them up. | 23:59 |
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