| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: please rephrase | 00:00 |
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| chem|st | vacation... | 00:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh | 00:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so can we assume you agree with all candidates, when rest of council votes to have them in? | 00:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (if any vote needed) | 00:01 |
| juiceme | so, thursday 3th july, day after tomorrow at 20:00 UTC | 00:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: ^^^ | 00:01 |
| peterleinchen_ | are meetings announced via ML? | 00:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meetings are usually Tuesday 2000 UTC | 00:02 |
| juiceme | yes, usually so if something need to be resceduled. | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | announcement is /topic | 00:02 |
| RzR | how long is the meeting generally ? | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 30..120min | 00:02 |
| RzR | because that one took more than 1h :) | 00:02 |
| RzR | ok | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | depends largely on minutes | 00:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aka topics | 00:03 |
| juiceme | this meeting is a bit different, usually there's not much topics | 00:03 |
| chem|st | and when people show up and if | 00:03 |
| juiceme | however you can browse the irclogs of previous meetings, fairly often people debate on things even when meeting has been officially ended already. | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: what shall we do when we need a decision of you about another candidate that's missing some karma or whatever? | 00:04 |
| chem|st | 00:04 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fine | 00:04 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 waves | 00:04 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: have a nice holiday | 00:05 |
| juiceme | hmm, is it still OK to get more announcements? I thought the deadline was today? | 00:05 |
| chem|st | ping on IRC, not being available does not mean I do not look before I go to bed | 00:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | juiceme: yes, deadline is tripped | 00:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nomination phase ended | 00:05 |
| juiceme | so we run with 10 candidates, good. | 00:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | more than ever ;-) | 00:06 |
| juiceme | :) | 00:06 |
| RzR | we got some pressure ... juiceme Win7Mac ;) | 00:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hehe | 00:06 |
| peterleinchen_ | hopefully we will have more voters, too | 00:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so this time it's not been me to do that shanghaiing job | 00:06 |
| juiceme | I admit being pretty persuasive... well look at it this way, it worked :) | 00:06 |
| RzR | I see 12 there http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_May_2014/Candidate_declarations#Next_ones_to_be_listed | 00:07 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 is out | 00:07 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | of meeting | 00:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o/ | 00:07 |
| juiceme | oo, RzR you are right there | 00:08 |
| juiceme | bye, doc :) | 00:08 |
| peterleinchen_ | bye | 00:08 |
| RzR | bye | 00:08 |
| RzR | so the meeting is officially over now ? | 00:08 |
| juiceme | brandon=jackburton :) | 00:09 |
| juiceme | yes, this was the officail bit. | 00:09 |
| juiceme | s/officail/official | 00:09 |
| RzR | too bad neildk wasnt here | 00:09 |
| juiceme | he travels a lot, I think | 00:10 |
| RzR | I see | 00:10 |
| peterleinchen_ | yes can happen :) | 00:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, juiceme. We (you ;-p) need to publish result of nomination period and announce further proceeding. Usual channels | 00:10 |
| juiceme | i'll do that. | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-D | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ta | 00:11 |
| juiceme | there's 11 candidates now, that right? | 00:11 |
| juiceme | okay, now please go and edit your entry on http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_May_2014/Candidate_declarations | 00:12 |
| juiceme | me & RzR already done that. | 00:12 |
| juiceme | so, unless anything else, I'll drop off too. | 00:13 |
| peterleinchen_ | just one more | 00:13 |
| RzR | btw should we keep using http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93369&page=7 for tracking announcing etc ? | 00:13 |
| juiceme | am pretty wasted, biked 110km in bloody rain today and need to get up 5:45 tomorrow :) | 00:13 |
| RzR | or should we follow mailing lists 1st ? | 00:13 |
| juiceme | I'd say safest bet is to update both mlist and tmo | 00:14 |
| peterleinchen_ | also concerning you ;) juiceme. what about Harmattan? Is it lost to MS? chemist wanted tp invesitgate a bit .... | 00:14 |
| RzR | peterleinchen_, please detail the plan ? | 00:15 |
| Win7Mac | RzR, why not put your email-content on the wiki-page... | 00:15 |
| peterleinchen_ | but we can talk later go to bed ;) | 00:15 |
| juiceme | AFAIK Harmattan was not included in the MS deal. It was pretty much destroyed before the changeover already. | 00:15 |
| peterleinchen_ | no plan | 00:15 |
| juiceme | so there was nothing to transfer to MS :( | 00:15 |
| peterleinchen_ | yes that is my knowledge too | 00:16 |
| RzR | Win7Mac, I'll consider doing this later | 00:16 |
| Win7Mac | seems so, yes | 00:16 |
| * tmo_TomJ is off too | 00:16 | |
| juiceme | anythng else..? | 00:16 |
| peterleinchen_ | but I read on some MS site they taken over Harmattan but did not mention Maemo | 00:16 |
| peterleinchen_ | nope | 00:17 |
| RzR | asha still using harmattan homescreen design | 00:17 |
| chem|st | peterleinchen_: maemo and meego are dead, not sold to MS so trademarks remain till due and are Nokia's till then | 00:17 |
| RzR | so I guess some part of it is still living somewhere | 00:17 |
| juiceme | Maemo was excluded from the deal, but I have nothing on writing on that. | 00:17 |
| RzR | in some heart at least | 00:17 |
| juiceme | RzR, asha uses the same design but it is window-dressing only, no common codebase. | 00:18 |
| RzR | not at all but the design worth a lot in corporate world | 00:18 |
| chem|st | my Nokia contact changed, the previouse contact made me aware of it by sending me an email from @microsoft.com | 00:19 |
| RzR | so I guess if they still using it this mean they still owning it | 00:19 |
| juiceme | mmh, yes, but id does not matter since Harmattan does not exist any longer | 00:19 |
| juiceme | so asha is the only existing interface using that loo&feel | 00:19 |
| RzR | afaik yes | 00:19 |
| peterleinchen_ | so there is nothing to include? | 00:19 |
| peterleinchen_ | integrate OpenRepos? | 00:20 |
| RzR | I would be curious to know the position on other platforms ? | 00:20 |
| peterleinchen_ | just thinking loud, no plans ... | 00:20 |
| RzR | like neo900 jolla etc | 00:20 |
| chem|st | RzR: plans on what? | 00:20 |
| juiceme | heh, this sounds like you are already in New Council Session :) | 00:21 |
| RzR | should council take care of this or just focus on nokia maemo ? | 00:21 |
| RzR | ok well you're right | 00:21 |
| juiceme | that is for the New Council to decide :) | 00:21 |
| RzR | let's keep this for later | 00:21 |
| chem|st | RzR: council takes care of the community, and that is all franchises if need be! | 00:21 |
| juiceme | ye | 00:21 |
| RzR | that would be the 1st minute ... | 00:21 |
| juiceme | anyway, nite. Ill tune out now. | 00:22 |
| chem|st | juiceme: that is actually nothing council chooses, if there is a community project on it the council is to support that effort | 00:22 |
| RzR | chem|st, like lumia could be part of it ? ;) | 00:22 |
| chem|st | juiceme: bb | 00:22 |
| chem|st | lumia is no maemo relative | 00:22 |
| chem|st | lumia is windows | 00:22 |
| RzR | what about the fake n9 ? | 00:23 |
| chem|st | RzR: we are no more nokia here, this is maemo, nokia is long gone | 00:23 |
| RzR | O RLY? | 00:23 |
| chem|st | :) | 00:23 |
| chem|st | if you want to start a harmattan-cssu go for it! | 00:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | council is naturally, HiFo even legally focused on maemo-related and derivative stuff | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | is meego/harmattan maemo-related? sure. Is jolla? not so much already | 00:25 |
| chem|st | + devices related to that | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just that neither council nor HiFo is actually into any hw business | 00:26 |
| peterleinchen_ | a harmattan-ccsu? | 00:26 |
| RzR | now i'm gone | 00:26 |
| RzR | later guys | 00:26 |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 too | 00:26 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cya all | 00:26 |
| peterleinchen_ | nice idea but user base is already lesser than Maemo's | 00:27 |
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| chem|st | hey, I use my N9... (my jolla is gone poof) | 00:27 |
| peterleinchen_ | oh ONE more :D | 00:28 |
| chem|st | seems FedEx lost it | 00:28 |
| peterleinchen_ | of course 'lost' ... | 00:29 |
| chem|st | it was scanned on dispatch, never was scanned again | 00:29 |
| rZr | mine is also travelling w/ fedex atm | 00:29 |
| chem|st | uh is it in hongkong already? | 00:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Jupiter | 00:30 |
| rZr | checking | 00:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | soon passing by Saturn | 00:30 |
| chem|st | some went .fi > .fr > .fi > .se > .fr this morning | 00:30 |
| chem|st | .be > .fr > .hk > .se > .fi is also a nice detour | 00:32 |
| rZr | mine is supposed to be in paris now | 00:33 |
| M4rtinK | I think the only thing able to save Harmattan would be making up to date Qt 5 running on it | 00:33 |
| M4rtinK | that could bring some ports from other platforms | 00:34 |
| M4rtinK | (and with Python 3 & PyOtherSide would enable modRana with the Qt 5 GUI on Harmattan :) ) | 00:35 |
| rZr | M4rtinK, which qt5 platforms ? | 00:35 |
| M4rtinK | well, everything that runs with plain Qt 5 should run | 00:36 |
| rZr | there are few qt5 apps afaik most are using bb10 cascades or jolla silica ... | 00:36 |
| M4rtinK | Qt 5 apps for Android :P | 00:36 |
| rZr | those we already run on jolla | 00:36 |
| M4rtinK | (I'm not kidding - there are no special Android components, so it could work) | 00:37 |
| rZr | btw I did built qt5 for harmattan | 00:37 |
| rZr | along kdelibs | 00:37 |
| M4rtinK | also I guess it might be possible to port the Glacier components | 00:37 |
| rZr | w/ my friend djzapi | 00:37 |
| rZr | now i am gone this is a discussion for #harmattan | 00:38 |
| M4rtinK | good point | 00:39 |
| peterleinchen_ | yep | 00:44 |
| peterleinchen_ | nite @all | 00:44 |
| chem|st | o/ | 00:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | to all candidates, supplementary: http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/FAQ | 01:08 |
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