| chem|st | why should council decide that, is the testing so gone by now that it needs the council to promote packages? | 00:00 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | CSSU wiki page recommends bm however it's in extras-devel which is silly | 00:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | this is why the topic appeared in #maemo | 00:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | bm isn't even in testing FWIW | 00:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | well the latest version anyway. | 00:02 |
| chem|st | I actually have bm but I do not really trust it yet... | 00:02 |
| chem|st | testing promotion is up to the maintainer isnt it? | 00:03 |
| juiceme | you talking about the N900 version of backupmenu? | 00:03 |
| chem|st | so if he does not think it is a sane idea to put it in testing why should council put it in extras | 00:03 |
| chem|st | juiceme: there is no extras for anything above | 00:04 |
| chem|st | so yes | 00:04 |
| juiceme | :) | 00:06 |
| juiceme | thought so, yes. | 00:06 |
| sixwheeledbeast | well I cannot confirm if bm is completely stable on all versions of CSSU and maemo so I have to agree really. | 00:06 |
| chem|st | as long as we have the same kernel it should not be that a problem | 00:10 |
| chem|st | but still, I do not like the idea yet | 00:10 |
| chem|st | if the maintainer kept it in devel, there is a reason for it | 00:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bm needs support from council because the dependincies are only available in Nokia tools/sdk repo | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | robbiethe1st already promoted a version to testing, since I asked him to do so. I "promised" that council would eventually find a way to provide the dependencies which is basically i2c-tools afaik | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | BM is thoroughly tested and trusted | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the "reasem the devel 'lept it' in devel" been the missing dependencies in testing and extras | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | reason* | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the "reason the devel 'lept it' in devel" been the missing dependencies in testing and extras | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wtf? ok. you know what I meant | 00:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ((<chem|st> I actually have bm but I do not really trust it yet...)) that's really your problem then. It#s a pretty simple schellscript basically, and testing for criteria a package needs to meet to qualify for promotion is utterly simple - resulting in "unmet dependency: i2c-tools" | 00:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | robbiethe1st is neither interested in, not qualified or even alllowed to take maintainership of i2ctools package | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/not/nor/ | 00:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thus the question is not if council should promote BM but rather if council dares to promote i2c-tools | 00:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hwatever, in 6 month nobody will care anymore - my estimation | 00:50 |
| juiceme | until Neo900, that is | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | once maemo is dead, no Neo900 will resurrect it | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and even core cssu deveks are abandoning ship, since maemo-wide total stagation | 01:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so sure, why should council do something to support a core component of cssu? | 01:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you see number of participants of council meetings? 16, incl my alter ego and a bot. There been >>100 at times | 01:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and help me out please: how many candidates stepped up for next council term so far? | 01:08 |
| juiceme | those were times before me, when it was strong and young | 01:08 |
| juiceme | none, doc :( | 01:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oh, so much interest? amazing! | 01:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | now interpolate that 6 or 12 months into the future | 01:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I see a shining new maemo e.V. fostering and managing a huge void | 01:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and maemo.org probably pointing to a windows9 advertisement page by then | 01:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | council will be gone, Hifo decided it's not needed anymore | 01:15 |
| juiceme | sad story but it need not come to that | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | repos will be gone, since M$ decided they are not opportune anymore | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | devels will be gone since they noticed there are no updates and no working autobuilder anymore | 01:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | users will be gone since they found there are no devices available anymore | 01:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and I wil be gone since I finally decided I can't take it anymore | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | some hackers for sure will find new exciting entertaining ways to use a supermicro server sitting in a rack in HH | 01:20 |
| juiceme | true about the devices though. I still have not managed to gen a N900 myself | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe HiFo will host a jolla fanclub there | 01:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | know what? I'm so glad I won't be council anymore, in a few weeks | 01:28 |
| juiceme | Doc, the way we get candidates screaming in it looks you're not going to be leaving any time soon... | 01:29 |
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