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ceene | hi guys! | 08:48 |
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ceene | sicelo: poor Yappari :( | 09:11 |
sicelo | :-) | 09:11 |
sicelo | yeah | 09:11 |
ceene | there's no alternative whatsapp client working anymore, is it? | 09:12 |
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sicelo | but, perhaps your UI can be use by Maemo Leste for SMSes, Telegram, etc | 09:12 |
ceene | it would be a nice GUI for Telegram indeed | 09:13 |
sicelo | ceene: yes doesn't seem to be. in the linux world, people who need whatsapp typically use anbox nowadays | 09:13 |
ceene | i tried anbox long long ago and couldn't get it to work | 09:14 |
ceene | it works now? | 09:14 |
sicelo | seems it works. at least on yt a couple of videos show whatsapp running in it on the pinephone | 09:15 |
ceene | cool | 09:17 |
ceene | just yesterday I installed Leste in one of my N900, and upgraded the easydebian installation on the other | 09:17 |
ceene | I assume Anbox won't run on the N900 | 09:17 |
sicelo | due to ram, unlikely. someone got it working on droid 4 however, at least as POC | 09:21 |
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ceene | oh, it exists on devuan on apt | 09:26 |
ceene | i'll have to try it | 09:26 |
sicelo | Yeah | 09:36 |
sicelo | btw in Leste is qt5, not qt4, but surely the porting won't be difficult | 09:36 |
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ceene | and now they've released qt6 | 10:20 |
ceene | we're always behind | 10:20 |
sicelo | :P | 10:21 |
sicelo | well, leste likely can upgrade to qt6 as well | 10:21 |
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clort | leste is beste! | 11:17 |
bencoh | you'd android kernel bits for anbox to work, by the way | 11:26 |
bencoh | (either as a module, or enabled builtin) | 11:27 |
clort | how is compatibility and speed vs something like alien dalvik | 11:30 |
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CatButts | ~sb | 17:12 |
infobot | scratchbox is probably a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB | 17:12 |
CatButts | if I want to extract headers and libs for compiling maemo5 applications, is server vm image fine too, or is desktop one absolutely necesary? | 17:18 |
Pali | IIRC X11 is needed only in case you want to run GUI X11 applications | 17:28 |
Pali | if your "compilation process" does not require to use X11, you do not need X11 desktop at all | 17:29 |
bencoh | I've worked with a headless vm only for years :) | 17:30 |
CatButts | does X11 presence also imply headers for compiling N900 applications? | 17:30 |
bencoh | ? | 17:31 |
CatButts | does X11 being present or not in image affect my ability to compile N900 apps that may depend on X11? | 17:32 |
bencoh | you can do anything you want/need with a headless image | 17:32 |
CatButts | ah, so server image has all I would need | 17:32 |
bencoh | yeah | 17:32 |
bencoh | iirc I manually installed scratchbox on a headless debian vm back then | 17:33 |
CatButts | I'm gonna try my hand at a headers+libs onto a windows hosted ARM crosscompiler | 17:34 |
bencoh | side question, but ... do you enjoy suffering? :] | 17:35 |
CatButts | maybe | 17:35 |
bencoh | oh, this explains that I guess ;> | 17:35 |
CatButts | I wouldn't be running windows XP if I didn't! | 17:35 |
* bencoh nods | 17:35 | |
KotCzarny | xp is fine | 17:37 |
CatButts | although, last time I tried years ago, I remember there was at least 1 pair of headers that were named almost the same, with different capitalization | 17:37 |
KotCzarny | if you've said winme, then you would be right | 17:37 |
KotCzarny | xp supports ntfs | 17:38 |
KotCzarny | which has case sensitive fs | 17:38 |
KotCzarny | but why not just run linux in virtualbox or something? | 17:38 |
KotCzarny | you have vm image already | 17:38 |
KotCzarny | just boot it | 17:38 |
KotCzarny | kinda obvious | 17:39 |
CatButts | I want to compile a linux application with a batch file, so I can take revenge on all those codebases for compiling crossplatform/windows, where you have config sh scripts and makefiles laced with linux commands | 17:41 |
CatButts | take that! | 17:41 |
KotCzarny | you should just get a work, you have too much time | 17:41 |
KotCzarny | s/work/job/ | 17:41 |
infobot | KotCzarny meant: you should just get a job, you have too much time | 17:41 |
CatButts | what GCC version is the one that comes by default with the SDK? | 17:44 |
CatButts | 4.something | 17:44 |
KotCzarny | 4.2 | 17:44 |
CatButts | ok, time to suffer | 17:59 |
CatButts | for starters, there seem to be multiple names, such as AArch32 AArch64, eabi gnueabi gnueabi-hf | 18:00 |
CatButts | I probably want gnueabi one | 18:00 |
CatButts | what of AArch? | 18:01 |
CatButts | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AArch64 ah ok, so past N900's capabilities, if this recent(2011) | 18:05 |
sicelo | >> you should just get a job, you have too much time << :-D | 18:06 |
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CatButts | > armeb-linux-gnueabi | 18:19 |
CatButts | oh, it gets slightly more complicated | 18:20 |
CatButts | ARM is bi-endianess, right? | 18:20 |
CatButts | but software/OS can be compiled for either | 18:20 |
CatButts | what endianess is Maemo? | 18:20 |
CatButts | I suspect LE, but it doesn't hurt to ask | 18:22 |
bencoh | LE | 18:27 |
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