IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2020-12-09

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ceenehi guys!08:48
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ceenesicelo: poor Yappari :(09:11
sicelo:-)09:11
siceloyeah09:11
ceenethere's no alternative whatsapp client working anymore, is it?09:12
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sicelobut, perhaps your UI can be use by Maemo Leste for SMSes, Telegram, etc09:12
ceeneit would be a nice GUI for Telegram indeed09:13
siceloceene: yes doesn't seem to be. in the linux world, people who need whatsapp typically use anbox nowadays09:13
ceenei tried anbox long long ago and couldn't get it to work09:14
ceeneit works now?09:14
siceloseems it works. at least on yt a couple of videos show whatsapp running in it on the pinephone09:15
ceenecool09:17
ceenejust yesterday I installed Leste in one of my N900, and upgraded the easydebian installation on the other09:17
ceeneI assume Anbox won't run on the N90009:17
sicelodue to ram, unlikely. someone got it working on droid 4 however, at least as POC09:21
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ceeneoh, it exists on devuan on apt09:26
ceenei'll have to try it09:26
siceloYeah09:36
sicelobtw in Leste is qt5, not qt4, but surely the porting won't be difficult09:36
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ceeneand now  they've released qt610:20
ceenewe're always behind10:20
sicelo:P10:21
sicelowell, leste likely can upgrade to qt6 as well10:21
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clortleste  is  beste!11:17
bencohyou'd android kernel bits for anbox to work, by the way11:26
bencoh(either as a module, or enabled builtin)11:27
clorthow is compatibility and speed vs something like alien dalvik11:30
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CatButts~sb17:12
infobotscratchbox is probably a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB17:12
CatButtsif I want to extract headers and libs for compiling maemo5 applications, is server vm image fine too, or is desktop one absolutely necesary?17:18
PaliIIRC X11 is needed only in case you want to run GUI X11 applications17:28
Paliif your "compilation process" does not require to use X11, you do not need X11 desktop at all17:29
bencohI've worked with a headless vm only for years :)17:30
CatButtsdoes X11 presence also imply headers for compiling N900 applications?17:30
bencoh?17:31
CatButtsdoes X11 being present or not in image affect my ability to compile N900 apps that may depend on X11?17:32
bencohyou can do anything you want/need with a headless image17:32
CatButtsah, so server image has all I would need17:32
bencohyeah17:32
bencohiirc I manually installed scratchbox on a headless debian vm back then17:33
CatButtsI'm gonna try my hand at a headers+libs onto a windows hosted ARM crosscompiler17:34
bencohside question, but ... do you enjoy suffering? :]17:35
CatButtsmaybe17:35
bencohoh, this explains that I guess ;>17:35
CatButtsI wouldn't be running windows XP if I didn't!17:35
* bencoh nods17:35
KotCzarnyxp is fine17:37
CatButtsalthough, last time I tried years ago, I remember there was at least 1 pair of headers that were named almost the same, with different capitalization17:37
KotCzarnyif you've said winme, then you would be right17:37
KotCzarnyxp supports ntfs17:38
KotCzarnywhich has case sensitive fs17:38
KotCzarnybut why not just run linux in virtualbox or something?17:38
KotCzarnyyou have vm image already17:38
KotCzarnyjust boot it17:38
KotCzarnykinda obvious17:39
CatButtsI want to compile a linux application with a batch file, so I can take revenge on all those codebases for compiling crossplatform/windows, where you have config sh scripts and makefiles laced with linux commands17:41
CatButtstake that!17:41
KotCzarnyyou should just get a work, you have too much time17:41
KotCzarnys/work/job/17:41
infobotKotCzarny meant: you should just get a job, you have too much time17:41
CatButtswhat GCC version is the one that comes by default with the SDK?17:44
CatButts4.something17:44
KotCzarny4.217:44
CatButtsok, time to suffer17:59
CatButtsfor starters, there seem to be multiple names, such as AArch32 AArch64, eabi gnueabi gnueabi-hf18:00
CatButtsI probably want gnueabi one18:00
CatButtswhat of AArch?18:01
CatButtshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AArch64 ah ok, so past N900's capabilities, if this recent(2011)18:05
sicelo>> you should just get a job, you have too much time << :-D18:06
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CatButts> armeb-linux-gnueabi18:19
CatButtsoh, it gets slightly more complicated18:20
CatButtsARM is bi-endianess, right?18:20
CatButtsbut software/OS can be compiled for either18:20
CatButtswhat endianess is Maemo?18:20
CatButtsI suspect LE, but it doesn't hurt to ask18:22
bencohLE18:27
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