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| AStorm | hello, is this alive after 12 years? how can I upgrade the old n810 still? | 12:39 |
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| AStorm | dusted it off and it still... somewhat works | 12:39 |
| AStorm | needs an SD card in the miniSD adapter though, and I cannot find one right now | 12:39 |
| AStorm | it has OS 2008 ancient history on it | 12:44 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I know very little about the n810 but someone may do | 12:45 |
| AStorm | got the flasher and stuff, but is there anything actually new for this ancient hardware | 12:45 |
| AStorm | of course tablets-dev.nokia.com is long gone | 12:46 |
| AStorm | repository seems to end in 2013 | 12:47 |
| AStorm | original catalogue is gone too | 12:48 |
| AStorm | but repository.maemo.org still exists | 12:48 |
| AStorm | I'll check what's on it, chinook, gregale, diablo or fremantle | 12:48 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I wouldn't think so. lots of infra was broken when microsoft took over nokia the community have kept what they could working | 12:49 |
| bencoh | n810 most probably runs diablo | 12:49 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~n810 | 12:49 |
| bencoh | as for repository.maemo.org, it doesn't host any of the "base" repositories | 12:50 |
| sixwheeledbeast | diablo sounds right | 12:50 |
| bencoh | (apart from sdk stuff) | 12:50 |
| bencoh | unfortunately I never mirrored diablo, but afair a few maemo members did back then | 12:50 |
| AStorm | there's this ancient history: http://repository.maemo.org/stable/diablo/ | 12:51 |
| AStorm | of course if mer or anything else is more recommended for this old hardware, I'm game | 12:51 |
| AStorm | the device has the alternate custom initramfs | 12:51 |
| AStorm | or was it bootloader | 12:51 |
| AStorm | one with a menu | 12:51 |
| bencoh | mer won't run there | 12:52 |
| bencoh | 128MB ram will probably be short for maemo-leste as well | 12:52 |
| bencoh | although I wonder how short | 12:52 |
| sixwheeledbeast | pmOS ? | 12:53 |
| bencoh | maybe pmOS yeah :) | 12:53 |
| AStorm | looks like chinook is on it, at least that's what set in repositories | 12:53 |
| bencoh | with some really lightweight wm | 12:53 |
| bencoh | AStorm: I'd backup everything I could first | 12:53 |
| AStorm | pmOS would be fine if it fits | 12:53 |
| sixwheeledbeast | anyway to make leste lighter? | 12:53 |
| AStorm | oh it is backed up all right somewhere, can back it up more | 12:54 |
| bencoh | sixwheeledbeast: how much does leste actually take at boot? | 12:54 |
| bencoh | (after a fresh boot I mean) | 12:54 |
| AStorm | so, flasher can do full backup right? | 12:54 |
| bencoh | full as in "drop full mmc/nand image here and I'll flash it back"? doubt it, but dunno | 12:55 |
| sixwheeledbeast | no idea | 12:55 |
| bencoh | well, it can flash alright | 12:55 |
| bencoh | but I doubt there is an easy way to make such an image | 12:55 |
| AStorm | mmm I think it either needs a cable or initramfs, let's see a reboot | 12:58 |
| AStorm | I even have Opera 10.1 beta on it :3 | 12:58 |
| AStorm | ha I still remember the magic key combo | 12:59 |
| AStorm | wow I have mer on this too | 13:03 |
| AStorm | however the standard cable I have is not compatible with flasher - I have the nokia cable but elsewhere | 13:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Probably just a charging cable with the data pins shorted | 13:18 |
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| AStorm | anyway flasher cannot make a backup, I'll have to get here some Linux | 13:25 |
| AStorm | hmm the device is "seen" but not by flasher | 13:26 |
| AStorm | looks like Nokia BB5 ADL loader | 13:27 |
| sicelo | is it armhf/armv7? if not, pmOS won't work | 13:59 |
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| AStorm | it can run armv7 | 14:08 |
| AStorm | it's TI OMAP 2xxx some number | 14:09 |
| AStorm | TI OMAP 2420 specifically, 128 MB ram | 14:09 |
| AStorm | oof, I think it's armv6 with Thumb 2 | 14:11 |
| AStorm | as in ARM1136 or something with PowerVR | 14:12 |
| AStorm | it does have hard fpu. | 14:14 |
| AStorm | so it's armhf I suppose | 14:14 |
| AStorm | however, it's armv6 with hard fpu, not armv7; it does not support thumb 2 | 14:15 |
| sicelo | anyway isn't like pmOS is any efficient. it just should be lighter than Leste because it doesn't force you to use hildon ... for that RAM, I suppose only choice would be something like i3 (unless you're lucky xfce works) | 14:15 |
| AStorm | old matchbox perhaps, like mer | 14:15 |
| sicelo | iirc alpine (on which pmOS is based) dropped armv6 long ago | 14:15 |
| AStorm | I could always gentoo it up | 14:16 |
| AStorm | the big trick is kernel and powervr mbx lite driver | 14:16 |
| AStorm | potentially GPS driver too | 14:16 |
| sicelo | or debian (devuan) :) | 14:16 |
| AStorm | the CPU is supported even in linux 5 | 14:17 |
| sicelo | https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Unsupported_Devices | 14:18 |
| AStorm | yeah I think OMAP 2420 might be supported enough as it's v6 hardfp | 14:20 |
| AStorm | albeit it's faster with as little fp as possible | 14:21 |
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| AStorm | I think the setup for Nokia N9 would work | 14:50 |
| AStorm | that one had OMAP 3630 | 14:51 |
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