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| brolin_empey | Is the version of wget in Ubuntu 10.04.x LTS now unable to download a file from a Wikimedia public Web site using HTTPS? :-/ | 02:54 |
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| brolin_empey | $ time wget https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/Freescale_Semiconductor_logo.svg | 02:54 |
| brolin_empey | --2020-04-02 16:50:53-- https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/Freescale_Semiconductor_logo.svg | 02:54 |
| brolin_empey | Resolving upload.wikimedia.org... 198.35.26.112, 2620:0:863:ed1a::2:b | 02:54 |
| brolin_empey | Connecting to upload.wikimedia.org|198.35.26.112|:443... connected. | 02:54 |
| brolin_empey | OpenSSL: error:1407742E:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert protocol version | 02:54 |
| brolin_empey | Unable to establish SSL connection. | 02:54 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | 10.04? Lucid? | 03:02 |
| brolin_empey | sixwheeledbeast: Yes, 10.04 Lucid Lynx. | 03:07 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Support ended in 2013 | 03:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | 2015 if on ESM | 03:08 |
| brolin_empey | That does not matter. It is not worth my time to try to upgrade the OS. I will just use wget on another computer with newer software and use scp to copy the downloaded file over the network to the Ubuntu 10.04.x LTS computer. This Ubuntu installation is for x86-32 but apparently Ubuntu 20.04 will not be released for x86-32 so I guess I could not upgrade this installation to the current release even if I wanted to and had too much free time. | 03:12 |
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| brolin_empey | Done. Used wget in Cygwin on my office computer, used scp to copy the downloaded file to the Ubuntu 10.04.x LTS computer. | 03:25 |
| sixwheeledbeast | that's not the case the libraries will just be kept as the 18.04 LTS versions. | 03:31 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I wouldn't be expecting anything crypto to work if the OS is out of date. | 03:32 |
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| sunshavi | brolin_empey: I have the same problem with my compaq n600c new packages do not run on this old machine | 04:39 |
| sunshavi | When I have time I am going to try BSD on that machine | 04:40 |
| sunshavi | it is a Pentium III 1 Ghz with 256 Mb mem | 04:40 |
| brolin_empey | sunshavi: I only said that I am using an x86-32 OS, not that I am using an x86-32 computer. The computer running Ubuntu 10.04.x LTS is a Core 2 era computer but using only SSDs, not any HDD. All Core 2 CPUs support x86-64 so can still run modern OSes. This computer has 2 GiB of main memory. It had 4 GiB but I replaced the full-size ATX tower computer I was using with a SFF desktop computer from HP. Now I have two HP SFF desktop computers in the same | 04:48 |
| brolin_empey | space on the table as the one full-size ATX tower computer, which is now my spare Core 2 tower computer at home. | 04:48 |
| sunshavi | brolin_empey: nice | 04:50 |
| brolin_empey | You can assemble or buy an already assembled Socket T (LGA775) computer with the Core 2 Duo E8400 CPU for cheap. The C2D E8400 CPU sells for around 15 CAD on eBay from Toronto, Canada and 4×2-GiB DDR2 SDRAM DIMMs for 8 GiB total main memory sells new for around 30 CAD on eBay from sellers in Asia. You could also use a Socket AM2 motherboard because then you can use the low-cost but high-density 4-GiB DDR2 DIMMs that work with an AMD computer but not with | 04:54 |
| brolin_empey | an Intel computer. | 04:54 |
| sunshavi | mmm. have I mentioned that I have an orange pi plus 2e? | 04:56 |
| sunshavi | that I use as my main workstation (always on) | 04:57 |
| sunshavi | BTW. the best thing about core duo is not having the intel management engine. So those are good machines. | 05:07 |
| brolin_empey | I thought that all Orange Pi computers are ARM, not x86. I said Core 2 Duo, not Core Duo. Core 2 is x86-64 and at least some (or all?) of the Core 2 era motherboards have the Intel Management Engine. Core (retronym: Core 1) is 80686 only. Early AMD x86-64 platforms, such as the AM2 era that I mentioned, do not have something like the Intel ME as far as I know, though, because AMD only added that with the Platform Security Processor (PSP) in recent x86-64 | 05:18 |
| brolin_empey | platforms, such as Ryzen. You could also use the VIA x86-64 platform (VIA Nano). | 05:18 |
| sunshavi | yes. orange pi are ARM. those are cheap also. less space. | 05:20 |
| sunshavi | VIA are hot cpus?. the last time i used AMD the laptop got very hot. the have problems to cool their processors AMD i am talking abotu | 05:22 |
| sunshavi | s/abotu/about | 05:22 |
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| brolin_empey | x86-64 computers can be small too, such as the Latte Panda, Up Board, and Minnow Board Turbot, which all use an Intel x86-64 platform. | 05:58 |
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| brolin_empey | I think the newest VIA x86 CPU I have is the C7 (80686) in the HP 2133 Mini-Note computer. I do not think I have anything with a VIA Nano CPU. | 06:01 |
| brolin_empey | The problem with wget on Ubuntu 10.04.x LTS is caused by software, not by hardware. Apparently the Wikimedia public servers now use an HTTPS configuration that is incompatible with wget as distributed by Ubuntu 10.04.x LTS. This issue may have had an easy workaround but I did not want to sidetrack myself to research it, I just wanted to finish my original task of updating a Web site for my company. | 06:08 |
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| brolin_empey | I tried to install curl on Ubuntu 10.04.x LTS but I would have to update the APT sources.list file because this version of Ubuntu is now EOL. I have done that many times over the years but I did not want to sidetrack myself that much so I just used wget on my office computer then copied the image (as in picture) files over the network with scp. I mean I wanted to see if curl on Ubuntu 10.04.x LTS still works to download these files. | 06:12 |
| brolin_empey | I tried using wget with http:// instead of https:// in the URI but the server just redirected the request back to HTTPS. | 06:17 |
| brolin_empey | I wanted to find an image search engine that allows to limit the results to vector graphics only so I could find vector versions of the wordmarks of Freescale Semiconductor and NXP Semiconductors but then I realised/remembered that Wikipedia seems to be a good place to get vector versions of logos or wordmarks. | 06:20 |
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| brolin_empey | I should have said a C2D E8400 CPU from Canada because I think some of the ones I bought on eBay came from the province of Quebec instead of from Toronto, Ontario. | 07:34 |
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