| sicelo | magnet on back cover is for SD card detection | 00:03 |
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| sicelo | i forgot how slide is detected, but i also seem to think it's magnet, but unsure where that one is located | 00:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast | while true; do cat /sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/slide/state; done | 00:04 |
| xmn | sixwheeledbeast: Thx for this info. will try it now | 00:15 |
| xmn | I do have a 2nd n900 disassembled, so will look at that for any mangets | 00:16 |
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| sicelo | the magnet is in the screen housing, evidently, and the sensor is somewhere around top row of keyboard. i don't see how this magnet can get lost | 00:25 |
| xmn | hmm, yeah strange. I had not drop it in awhile. And it just seem to happen. | 00:34 |
| xmn | but very useful info sicelo | 00:34 |
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| xmn | sixwheeledbeast: ran your cmd = open | 00:44 |
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| xmn | but does the fact that I have to type on the open keyboard matter for this cmd? | 00:44 |
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| xmn | can't remember how to to press enter with out the on screen keyboard | 00:45 |
| xmn | all I have is the buttons on the bottom of the terminal window | 00:45 |
| xmn | maybe I can add one to it .. hmm | 00:45 |
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| sicelo | type on keyboard :) | 00:51 |
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| xmn | So it looks there is in fact a magnet for the keyboard! | 01:35 |
| xmn | It's on the screen side and basically above the P key. | 01:36 |
| xmn | It's pretty small though. and doesn't look like it would fall out, but kinda of hard to check. | 01:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | >><sicelo> haha, now i remember - forgot to do mkswap << yeah, swap also needs "formatting" now, this is "new" | 01:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry for bot missing. Will be back soon , I didn't notice :-S | 01:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | another 2 some minutes until next watchdog ping, then bot reboot and hopefully bot returns instantly | 01:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | my watchdog job didn't run | 01:57 |
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| xmn | For those interested, I've marked where the magnet possibly for the keyboard is. https://i.postimg.cc/kX4VczMN/n900-screen-back.png | 01:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's between "i" and "O" on kbd, and magnet on display slider backside | 01:58 |
| xmn | Was able to try your cmd sixwheeledbeast now with the keyboard close. via ssh | 01:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hallswitch under I O keys | 01:58 |
| xmn | DocScrutinizer05: I guess I should say for US keyboard :D | 01:58 |
| xmn | oh, I guess close enough ..lol | 01:59 |
| xmn | what the hallswitch? | 01:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/Gallery-N900-exploded/platine_01.jpeg http://maemo.cloud-7.de/Gallery-N900-exploded/n900_01.jpeg | 02:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pretty much above 3rd key from right, a tad towards 4th key | 02:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the black little critter withing the white domesheet | 02:02 |
| xmn | I think I see that. | 02:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://i.imgur.com/048Y6EW.png | 02:03 |
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| xmn | yup | 02:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~wb | 02:04 |
| infobot | It's great to be back! | 02:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~sucker | 02:04 |
| infobot | from memory, sucker is something you shouldn't tell in public | 02:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~useless | 02:05 |
| * infobot starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer05 in the darkest corner of the room. :( | 02:05 | |
| xmn | So this a chip that interacts with the magnet to check for the keyboard state | 02:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, a hall sensor | 02:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wikipwedia will know | 02:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the electronic /solid-state version of a Reed switch | 02:07 |
| xmn | hehe, thx man. More than I already knew. | 02:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it simply checks for magnetic field | 02:07 |
| xmn | got yah | 02:07 |
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| xmn | so I guess I may need to check if this has fallen off. Which means I may need to take apart my current working n900 :( | 02:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry couldn't help but had to brag with my knowledge and my fine pictures in Neo900-exploded gallery ;-D | 02:09 |
| xmn | haha | 02:09 |
| xmn | it's all help .... ish :p | 02:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there has to be a tiny magnet in that bay you found baqckside of display slide. If it's missing, it fell off and prolly got lost (unless it cought hold somewhere else in N900 | 02:10 |
| xmn | the bigger question is how to test for hardware vs software to track down this issue. | 02:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ) | 02:10 |
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| xmn | it seem to small and inset to just fall off though. | 02:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you can use whatever magnet you find to trigger the hall sensor and make N900m thing slide is open | 02:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | think* | 02:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | *make N900 think*, even | 02:11 |
| xmn | yeah that what I figured, just tried it in a few place around where we said. But still says open | 02:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wait, it says "open"? | 02:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | without magnet it should say "slide closed" | 02:13 |
| xmn | cat /sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/slide/state; done | 02:13 |
| xmn | been using this from sixwheeledbeast, to tell if it's open are close via SW | 02:13 |
| xmn | So I login via ssh, and tested it with the device open, close, with magnet and without. all said open. | 02:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's not nice. either the magent got stuck on hall sensor (please check!), or the hall sensor is defect | 02:15 |
| xmn | :( | 02:15 |
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| xmn | so in your opinion, this can't be software related? Like these type of bugs, https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/17 | 02:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# watch cat /sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/slide/state | 02:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maemo-leste? sorry no idea | 02:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | all is possible I guess | 02:17 |
| xmn | yeah, I hear yah | 02:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not doing debugging or help for leste | 02:17 |
| xmn | many thing of course overlap | 02:17 |
| xmn | but I get yah | 02:18 |
| xmn | am I to try that cmd you posted? | 02:18 |
| xmn | oh, nm that an irc thing :) | 02:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I need a working phone, and as I understand it leste doesn't even _plan_ to ever achieve that state on N900 | 02:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that command watch checks every 2 seconds per default the reply from inner command (cat /sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/slide/state) | 02:23 |
| xmn | ah, okay can give it a try. thx | 02:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | NAME | 02:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | watch - execute a program periodically, showing output fullscreen | 02:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | SYNOPSIS | 02:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | watch [-bdehpvtx] [-n seconds] [--beep] [--differences[=cumulative]] [--errexit] [--exec] [--help] [--interval=seconds] [--no-title] [--precise] [--version] command | 02:24 |
| xmn | cool tool | 02:26 |
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| KotCzarny | could it be that you broke something when you were fixing the other magnet? | 08:35 |
| KotCzarny | were you doing some experiments? | 08:35 |
| xmn | not really I haven't taken this one apart yet. And the fix was just outer back side really. | 08:38 |
| xmn | but I feel like I've tried everything. so I trying to back it up and then will take it apart to check the freaken mag :( | 08:38 |
| KotCzarny | try to remember if it started to happen randomly or coincided with some event | 08:39 |
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| xmn | yeah, unfortunately I only remember that it happen when I wanted to type with out the HW keyboard, so restarted and then the fun began :( | 08:42 |
| KotCzarny | if you dont have many things on, you can also try backup and full reflash | 08:43 |
| xmn | I wish I could turn off the battery status on backupmenu root console it's make it very hard to work with. | 08:43 |
| xmn | yup that's the plain well the last one. It's pretty full. Still my day driver. | 08:44 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Switch state should be the same as the keyboard state so closed for closed and open for open. | 19:39 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Use usual terminal jobs commands to exit eg Ctrl+C | 19:39 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~beasttweaks | 19:39 |
| infobot | beasttweaks is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Sixwheeledbeast/Scripts | 19:39 |
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