IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2019-06-26

sicelomagnet on back cover is for SD card detection00:03
siceloi forgot how slide is detected, but i also seem to think it's magnet, but unsure where that one is located00:04
sixwheeledbeastwhile true; do cat /sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/slide/state; done00:04
xmnsixwheeledbeast: Thx for this info. will try it now00:15
xmnI do have a 2nd n900 disassembled, so will look at that for any mangets00:16
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sicelothe magnet is in the screen housing, evidently, and the sensor is somewhere around top row of keyboard. i don't see how this magnet can get lost00:25
xmnhmm, yeah strange. I had not drop it in awhile. And it just seem to happen.00:34
xmnbut very useful info sicelo00:34
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xmnsixwheeledbeast: ran your cmd = open00:44
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xmnbut does the fact that I have to type on the open keyboard matter for this cmd?00:44
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xmncan't remember how to to press enter with out the on screen keyboard00:45
xmnall I have is the buttons on the bottom of the terminal window00:45
xmnmaybe I can add one to it .. hmm00:45
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sicelotype on keyboard :)00:51
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xmnSo it looks there is in fact a magnet for the keyboard!01:35
xmnIt's on the screen side and basically above the P key.01:36
xmnIt's pretty small though. and doesn't look like it would fall out, but kinda of hard to check.01:37
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DocScrutinizer05>><sicelo> haha, now i remember - forgot to do mkswap << yeah, swap also needs "formatting" now, this is "new"01:51
DocScrutinizer05sorry for bot missing. Will be back soon , I didn't notice :-S01:55
DocScrutinizer05another 2 some minutes until next watchdog ping, then bot reboot and hopefully bot returns instantly01:56
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DocScrutinizer05my watchdog job didn't run01:57
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xmnFor those interested, I've marked where the magnet possibly for the keyboard is.
DocScrutinizer05it's between "i" and "O" on kbd, and magnet on display slider backside01:58
xmnWas able to try your cmd sixwheeledbeast now with the keyboard close. via ssh01:58
DocScrutinizer05hallswitch under I O keys01:58
xmnDocScrutinizer05: I guess I should say for US keyboard :D01:58
xmnoh, I guess close enough ..lol01:59
xmnwhat the hallswitch?01:59
DocScrutinizer05pretty much above 3rd key from right, a tad towards 4th key02:01
DocScrutinizer05the black little critter withing the white domesheet02:02
xmnI think I see that.02:02
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infobotIt's great to be back!02:04
infobotfrom memory, sucker is something you shouldn't tell in public02:04
* infobot starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer05 in the darkest corner of the room. :(02:05
xmnSo this a chip that interacts with the magnet to check for the keyboard state02:05
DocScrutinizer05yes, a hall sensor02:05
DocScrutinizer05wikipwedia will know02:05
DocScrutinizer05the electronic /solid-state version of a Reed switch02:07
xmnhehe, thx man. More than I already knew.02:07
DocScrutinizer05it simply checks for magnetic field02:07
xmngot yah02:07
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xmnso I guess I may need to check if this has fallen off. Which means I may need to take apart my current working n900 :(02:08
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DocScrutinizer05sorry couldn't help but had to brag with my knowledge and my fine pictures in Neo900-exploded gallery ;-D02:09
xmnit's all help .... ish :p02:09
DocScrutinizer05there has to be a tiny magnet in that bay you found baqckside of display slide. If it's missing, it fell off and prolly got lost (unless it cought hold somewhere else in N90002:10
xmnthe bigger question is how to test for hardware vs software to track down this issue.02:10
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xmnit seem to small and inset to just fall off though.02:11
DocScrutinizer05you can use whatever magnet you find to trigger the hall sensor and make N900m thing slide is open02:11
DocScrutinizer05*make N900 think*, even02:11
xmnyeah that what I figured, just tried it in a few place around where we said. But still says open02:12
DocScrutinizer05wait, it says "open"?02:12
DocScrutinizer05without magnet it should say "slide closed"02:13
xmncat /sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/slide/state; done02:13
xmnbeen using this from sixwheeledbeast, to tell if it's open are close via SW02:13
xmnSo I login via ssh, and tested it with the device open, close, with magnet and without. all said open.02:14
DocScrutinizer05that's not nice. either the magent got stuck on hall sensor (please check!), or the hall sensor is defect02:15
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xmnso in your opinion, this can't be software related? Like these type of bugs,
DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# watch cat /sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/slide/state02:16
DocScrutinizer05maemo-leste? sorry no idea02:17
DocScrutinizer05all is possible I guess02:17
xmnyeah, I hear yah02:17
DocScrutinizer05I'm not doing debugging or help for leste02:17
xmnmany thing of course overlap02:17
xmnbut I get yah02:18
xmnam I to try that cmd you posted?02:18
xmnoh, nm that an irc thing :)02:18
DocScrutinizer05I need a working phone, and as I understand it leste doesn't even _plan_ to ever achieve that state on N90002:21
DocScrutinizer05that command watch checks every 2 seconds per default the reply from inner command (cat  /sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/slide/state)02:23
xmnah, okay can give it a try. thx02:24
DocScrutinizer05       watch - execute a program periodically, showing output fullscreen02:24
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xmncool tool02:26
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KotCzarnycould it be that you broke something when you were fixing the other magnet?08:35
KotCzarnywere you doing some experiments?08:35
xmnnot really I haven't taken this one apart yet. And the fix was just outer back side really.08:38
xmnbut I feel like I've tried everything. so I trying to back it up and then will take it apart to check the freaken mag :(08:38
KotCzarnytry to remember if it started to happen randomly or coincided with some event08:39
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xmnyeah, unfortunately I only remember that it happen when I wanted to type with out the HW keyboard, so restarted and then the fun began :(08:42
KotCzarnyif you dont have many things on, you can also try backup and full reflash08:43
xmnI wish I could turn off the battery status on backupmenu root console it's make it very hard to work with.08:43
xmnyup that's the plain well the last one. It's pretty full. Still my day driver.08:44
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sixwheeledbeastSwitch state should be the same as the keyboard state so closed for closed and open for open.19:39
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sixwheeledbeastUse usual terminal jobs commands to exit eg Ctrl+C19:39
infobotbeasttweaks is probably
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