IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2019-04-24

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brolin_empeyLTE/LTE-A is the future.  N900 != LTE.  Also, m14ed already left but not everyone here is male.15:06
auenfand not all of the males here are gentlemen?15:10
sixwheeledbeastLTE isn't the future15:18
sixwheeledbeast~gender15:19
infobotI'm pregnant15:19
brolin_empeyinfobot: Pregnant?15:20
infobotYes, brolin_empey, and it's your child.15:20
brolin_empeyThat reply would not make sense if I was female.15:21
brolin_empeyUnless it means that infobot wants to give her child to a woman who asks if infobot is pregnant.15:23
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DocScrutinizer05a very polite and friendly person, this m14ed16:56
DocScrutinizer05well, infobot's gender is a miracle for modern science, seems to be undetermined like status of Schroedinger's cat16:59
DocScrutinizer05~attack brolin_empey16:59
* infobot grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing brolin_empey16:59
DocScrutinizer05~rape brolin_empey17:00
* infobot takes brolin_empey behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams17:00
DocScrutinizer05~gender17:00
infobotI'm gay17:00
DocScrutinizer05~gender17:01
infobotI'm lesbian17:01
DocScrutinizer05~gender17:01
infobotI'm male17:01
Vajbsince when are gay and lesbian genders?17:02
DocScrutinizer05~useless17:03
* infobot starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer05 in the darkest corner of the room. :(17:03
DocScrutinizer05~silly17:03
infobotsilly is probably 'a good question, the answer to which is "yes, i am"'17:03
DocScrutinizer05~stupid17:03
infoboti heard stupid is http://fun.drno.de/pics/english/bart.gif17:03
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brolin_empeyWallMart != Walmart.17:14
brolin_empeyThe “Wal” in “Walmart” is from the name of the founder of the company, Sam Walton, not from “wall”.17:15
DocScrutinizer05sorry, modem reboot and thus disconnect17:21
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DocScrutinizer05and that damn cablemodem is rebooting the 5th time now17:22
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DocScrutinizer05luckily I got a failover connection17:23
DocScrutinizer05and next boot17:26
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DocScrutinizer05and next boot17:29
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* DocScrutinizer05 just wants to know how often that box of shit reboots when _not_ getting powercycled17:30
* DocScrutinizer05 just wants to know how often that box of shit reboots when _not_ getting powercycledaaaand...???17:33
DocScrutinizer05aaaand...?17:33
DocScrutinizer05seems it stays17:33
DocScrutinizer05after only 25 minutes and 8 boots17:34
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sixwheeledbeast~insult infobot in bash17:50
infobotinfobot in bash is nothing but a fool-born mound of dread-bolted poop17:50
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DocScrutinizer05~+uptime17:54
infobot- Uptime for purl -17:54
infobotNow: 1d 17h 57m 2s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux17:54
infobot1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 201017:54
infobot2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 200917:54
infobot3: 53d 8h 24m 4s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Nov  7 05:34:20 201717:54
DocScrutinizer05~+status17:54
infobotSince Mon Apr 22 20:57:11 2019, there have been 2 modifications, 40 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 21 commands.  I have been awake for 1d 17h 57m 10s this session, and currently reference 119796 factoids.  I'm using about 87180 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 163.28/29.51 child 0/017:54
sixwheeledbeastThat reminds me i need a new UPS battery17:55
DocScrutinizer05at least the failover and recovery works fine now17:55
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DocScrutinizer05hmmm UPS battery... Should run a test eventually17:55
DocScrutinizer05~lf17:56
infobotsomebody said #maemo lazyflashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach17:56
DocScrutinizer05one thing's for sure: the vodafone "mediathek" (cable TV on demand / IPTV) isn't worth a single cent of its cost17:58
DocScrutinizer05actually the whole cable-TV / IPTV is mere crap. If it wasn't for the 400/25 internet...17:59
sixwheeledbeastMost ISP's are bundling stuff like that now. It's hard to get VDSL without a TV package now18:01
DocScrutinizer05modems that need 8 reboots when disabling bridge-mode... Series final of Elementary ran a week ago, no way to watch it again in mediathek18:01
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DocScrutinizer05EPG that doesn't knpw of program changes even if they are announced 48h in advance, a recorder that can't record stuff that's not listed in EPG (nice synergy in those two¡)18:02
sixwheeledbeastI suppose that's the issue with DOCSIS you have no control over what modem they provide you, unlike VDSL. Tho you benefit from faster up and down.18:03
DocScrutinizer05and every now and then the HDR simply reboots or locks up and needs power cycle18:03
DocScrutinizer05DOCSIS is what causes the 8 modem reboots18:04
DocScrutinizer05for nuttin18:04
DocScrutinizer05so not really faster up/down18:04
sixwheeledbeastThe cable may be balanced incorrectly if it happens often. DOCSIS it fussy about line quality and having the correct filtering.18:11
sixwheeledbeastWould have to moan to the ISP for an engineer to fix than.18:11
DocScrutinizer05line equ works fine. The modem bails out after trying to config "VoIP"18:14
DocScrutinizer05most likely on trying to set up friggin "homespot" which I explicitly opted out from18:15
DocScrutinizer05took them 3 months and me ~20h of hotline calls to get my account/DOCSIS set up so it _never_ enables the damn AP in modem18:18
DocScrutinizer05I guess they don't have that often, and they also are not very inclined to sell this featureset18:19
DocScrutinizer05after all their homespot stuff only works when >99% of users participate18:19
DocScrutinizer05thus they place a homespot AP into your flat even if you don't want any WLAN at all18:20
DocScrutinizer05there _are no_ modems without AP18:20
DocScrutinizer05https://zuhauseplus.vodafone.de/internet-telefon/wlan-hotspots/18:23
DocScrutinizer05damn18:23
DocScrutinizer05aaah https://hotspot.vodafone.de/hotspots.html18:25
brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: Can you get FttP service at your location?18:32
sixwheeledbeastThat seems to be an issue here with ISP's that are also cellular they offer guest WiFi via your internet that can't be switched off if you use there hardware18:33
DocScrutinizer05brolin_empey: nope18:34
sixwheeledbeastI need use any ISP provided kit where possible. DOCSIS is the most awkward to ditch the modem18:35
DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: yep, that's it. They clain you could switch it off via the web portal, but that's questionable18:35
sixwheeledbeasts/need/never/18:35
infobotsixwheeledbeast meant: I never use any ISP provided kit where possible. DOCSIS is the most awkward to ditch the modem18:35
brolin_empeyThe Nokia media converter (correct term?) box my ISP (Telus in Canada) provided when I switched from ADSL at both my home and office seems to mostly work well.18:35
DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: you can't even find the credentials to use their VoIP, "only via DOCSIS, even when you use your own Fritzbox Cablemodem-router"18:37
brolin_empeyAt both places I use my own gateway instead of using a gateway provided by the ISP.18:37
DocScrutinizer05gateway?18:37
* DocScrutinizer05 now needs to set up some VPN to finaly re-establish a way to "dial in" from internet18:38
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DocScrutinizer05no IP with this cable service18:38
sixwheeledbeastAh I see we still have POTS when you have DOCSIS here18:39
DocScrutinizer05or rather, cgNAT with no open ports inbound18:39
DocScrutinizer05POTS is dead here18:39
brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: Yes, WAN↔LAN gateway, commonly known as a “router” but I use formal terms, not common usage.18:39
DocScrutinizer05even Telekom uses tripleplay18:39
DocScrutinizer05not even ISDN anymore18:40
DocScrutinizer05IOW with a power outage, no more phone >:-(18:41
DocScrutinizer05nowhere. Nada18:41
* DocScrutinizer05 wants to shoot the dude who allowed this concept18:42
sixwheeledbeastISDN and POTS are dying here for xDSL connections EOL in 2025. It's not certain how it will be implemented tho.18:42
sixwheeledbeasthowever POTS may stay on DOCSIS connections18:42
brolin_empeyAt least in my part of Canada (Metro Vancouver, British Columbia), the cellular network is still up while the electric mains is down.18:43
DocScrutinizer05sure, for a while18:43
DocScrutinizer05maybe the dwindling number of cellular phones with charged battery mitigates the service breakdown from clogging18:44
DocScrutinizer05but then, the BTS batteries also only last a maybe 12 or max 24h18:45
brolin_empeyI can power my handheld computer from my car while the electric mains is down.18:45
sixwheeledbeastThe idea behind killing POTS is so the exchanges can be made smaller and have no batteries that need maintaining18:47
brolin_empeyI can also keep spare charged batteries because I only use handheld computers with an easily removable battery.18:48
buZz:)18:48
DocScrutinizer05yeah, why batteries in exchanges when no customer can operate their "gateway" any more ;-D18:48
buZzi just bought a new lipo from aliexpress for a 2007 Zipit Z218:48
buZz\o/18:48
buZzthe newoldstock batteries are barely 100mAh left of the original 1200mAh18:49
brolin_empeyI remember when Zipit was a Windows application similar to WinZip.18:50
buZz:)18:50
buZzzipit wireless is a US company , making 'medical messengers'18:50
buZzbut back in early 2k they dabbled in making kids toys18:51
brolin_empeyYes, I remember reading about a Zipit computer running GNU+Linux years ago;  I guess it was the Z2 that you mentioned.18:52
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buZzthe Z2 nowadays can run mainline linux18:55
buZzbut just 32MB ram so we're using openwrt as distro ;)18:55
brolin_empeyIs that the same amount of main memory as the PlayStation 2 has?18:56
buZzbut PS2 has another 4MB of video ram next to it18:58
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brolin_empeyYes, I checked Wikipedia and see that my memory was accurate that the PlayStation 2 has 32 MiB of main memory.18:59
brolin_empeyI recall that a late IBM PS/2 model supports up to at least 64 MiB of main memory, more than the Sony PS2.19:01
buZz:)19:01
buZzcould very well be yeah :D19:02
sixwheeledbeastIf you have a UPS in theory you would still be fine. Most people would not.19:02
buZzi bet the PS2 devkits also had more ram19:02
DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: there's one gremlin in UPS here: the cable signal amp down in cellar which will cut me off from cable19:05
* DocScrutinizer05 got reminded to run a mains supply cable from first floor down to that damn amp19:06
sixwheeledbeastonly a small gremlin tho19:07
DocScrutinizer05yeah, very small and very close, all the more very annoying too19:07
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brolin_empeyApparently an inkjet printer with automatic duplex printing does exist as a COTS product after all.  Interesting but I still prefer laser printers.23:31
brolin_empeyIs there a dot-matrix impact printer with automatic duplex printing?23:33
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