| sixwheeledbeast | ~seen kotczarny | 00:05 |
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| infobot | kotczarny <ariel@31.135.195.151> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 10d 12h 38m 15s ago, saying: '~unbanip'. | 00:05 |
| sixwheeledbeast | sicelo: ^ | 00:05 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~docsnack | 00:06 |
| * infobot snaps the snack in a flying jump, and runs to bring it to DocScrutinizer. Halfway there, eats snack | 00:06 | |
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| sicelo | thanks sixwheeledbeast | 00:13 |
| sicelo | 10 days ... that's a bit unusul, methinks. | 00:13 |
| * Vajb agrees | 00:14 | |
| Vajb | but it is holiday season. Easter... | 00:14 |
| sicelo | ah yes :) | 00:15 |
| xes | anyway still present in #linux-sunxi | 00:15 |
| sicelo | oh thanks. will give him a few days to return here, otherwise i'll go stalk him there | 00:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: wow, that's a pretty old factoid | 01:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: where did you dig that up? | 01:42 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | my head | 09:38 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Great minds think alike. | 13:06 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~factinfo docsnack | 13:08 |
| infobot | error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) | 13:08 |
| infobot | docsnack -- created by DocScrutinizer <~halley@openmoko/engineers/joerg> at Thu Aug 12 21:47:11 2010 (3175 days); it has been requested 5 times, last by sixwheeledbeast, 1m 10s ago. | 13:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | no idea about the error. i am likely doing it wrong | 13:09 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | no, its a bug | 13:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | oh | 13:09 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | the action gets enabled by the config flag but the error msg doesn't get blocked | 13:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | ~+chanset _default | 13:18 |
| infobot | Default channel settings | 13:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | ooh, this is about user flags, not channel settings | 13:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | ~+chanset #maemo | 13:34 |
| infobot | chan: #maemo (see _default also) | 13:34 |
| infobot | _time_added => 1179878166, autojoin => infobot, factoidSearch => $chan _default | 13:34 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ooh sed enabled? | 13:35 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | s/e/E/g | 13:36 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer51 meant: ooh sEd EnablEd? | 13:36 |
| sicelo | DocScrutinizer51 | 13:39 |
| sicelo | s/i/e/g | 13:39 |
| infobot | sicelo meant: DocScrutenezer51 | 13:39 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | s/e/E/ | 13:40 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer51 meant: ooh sEd enabled? | 13:40 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | s/e/E/2 | 13:40 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | s/e/E/ | 13:41 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer51 meant: s/E/E/2 | 13:41 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ;-P | 13:41 |
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| sicelo | heh @KotCzarny | 13:41 |
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| sicelo | my N900 is on its way out. digitizer has some dead areas towards the top right corner. | 13:50 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | eeew | 13:51 |
| sicelo | with phone in landscape, pressing 2 or 5 in the Phone application doesn't work, even though the blue 'clicked' effect appears. | 13:51 |
| sicelo | to enter 2 or 5 i have to press slightly to the left of the digit, somewhere between 1 & 2 | 13:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | now that is strange | 13:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you might want to read out raw X/Y/pendown values and compare to the actual physical input | 13:54 |
| sicelo | i don't know how to do that, but what i tried was to draw straight vertical lines, and see what happeens - in the affected area, the cursor jumps towards the right, leaving a zig-zag drawn line. | 13:55 |
| sicelo | https://paste.pics/ae06075b7da6e5b298f87bebab55dec3 ... these lines were all expected to be straight | 14:08 |
| Maxdamantus | fake sed. | 14:11 |
| Maxdamantus | s/./fake/ | 14:11 |
| infobot | Maxdamantus meant: fake sedfake | 14:11 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I thought my N900 had a faulty digitizer at one point, I found out the screen protector had worn out and was interfering with the screen. Replaced it and had no issues since. | 14:39 |
| sicelo | i replaced my protector as well. seems i have permanent damage. although i've wondered if flex cable could cause this. i don't have another to test | 14:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sicelo: I guess your digitizer's separator oil got rancid | 14:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or the outer plastic film got worn out and has dents and buckles | 14:51 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | I suppose symptoms of main flex could vary. I had more of a display issue than digitizer issues when my ribbon failed. | 15:35 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~fix-ribbon | 15:35 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~fixribbon | 15:35 |
| infobot | it has been said that fixribbon is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1324171#post1324171 | 15:35 |
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| Vajb | sicelo: I had screen problems too, but towards top left corner. It went so bad that I couldn't select number 1 in lock screen if phone was in landscape mode. | 18:07 |
| Vajb | also if I played with scetch and if I touch certain points near top left corner it draw straight line toward corner | 18:08 |
| Vajb | also I* | 18:08 |
| Vajb | affected area was about 3cm quarter circle. Top left corner being center | 18:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | flexribbon unrelated | 19:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when >>it draw straight line toward corner<< then your digitizer "has a short" aka a bogus erroneous touchpoint *at the origin* of such line | 19:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's why I suggested printing out raw numeric event values | 19:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Though I guess "there is an app for it" ;-) | 19:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~pkg | 19:13 |
| infobot | well, pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ | 19:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/meegotouch-demos-plainqt/ maybe? no faintest idea | 19:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | worse regarding "NFC": http://maemo.org/packages/view/meegotouch-examples/ | 19:17 |
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| tahr64usera52c00 | Good day and good health Gentlemen | 22:40 |
| tahr64usera52c00 | is there a set of operating instructions on-line somewhere for the nokia N900 ? any one knows about | 22:43 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | One does not simply operate an N900 | 22:59 |
| m14ed | no doubt | 23:00 |
| m14ed | can not scare an n900 with a hammer and screwdriver either - but must learn somewhere | 23:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I assume you have acquired a device and are looking for guidance? | 23:01 |
| m14ed | ? cursing allowed on here i can give affirmations | 23:01 |
| m14ed | i sir, am after more knowledge than just jumping onto it cold | 23:02 |
| m14ed | finger fiddling (Not the phrase i'd like to use) does not gain me much | 23:02 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Well ask away? It depends what you are trying to do? There are likely "official operating instructions" but they are unlikely to be very helpful in 2019 | 23:04 |
| m14ed | yes - i have acquired an N900 | 23:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Ok if you don't need anything I would suggest you reflash the device to a clean start. Therefore you have fresh unmodified Maemo. Then i would install the community updates AKA CSSU | 23:05 |
| m14ed | seemed like a "Full Box" of the set -telephone and equipment to go with all the slots in the box - everything there but the booklet | 23:05 |
| m14ed | ok- | 23:06 |
| sixwheeledbeast | wmo is your friend, you can also ask specific questions here, it's fairly active. | 23:07 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~wmo | 23:07 |
| infobot | [wmo] http://wiki.maemo.org | 23:07 |
| m14ed | laughing as i ask - hold one finger here, one here, one here, then wiggle while pushing buttons | 23:07 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~flashing | 23:07 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing | 23:07 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~lazyflashing | 23:08 |
| infobot | it has been said that lazyflashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach | 23:08 |
| m14ed | ^ thank you for the above kind sir | 23:09 |
| m14ed | perhaps someday i can return the favor | 23:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | My one global tip when it comes to N900 and Maemo is less is more. The more extras software "applications" you install the more likely your device will become slow like molasses. Keep your applications to what you need basically. | 23:11 |
| m14ed | goodly number of names here on your userlist - is the channel very active ? | 23:11 |
| sixwheeledbeast | fairly by the regulars, lots of idlers | 23:11 |
| m14ed | yes sir - most OS run faster - the lighter you allow them to be | 23:12 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Also maemo is not your standard Debian distro don't expect to be running apt from a terminal to install packages without having dependency mayhem. | 23:13 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~ham | 23:13 |
| infobot | ham is, like, Hildon Application Manager. Slow as molasses. Anticipate you got time for a beer or two until it finishes whatever it does, or see ~speedyham | 23:13 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~speedyham | 23:13 |
| infobot | [speedyham] 30 times faster than HAM https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-application-manager, now included in CSSU. | 23:13 |
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| m14ed | yes sir - i do recall when windows ruined tons of thinking when nokia changed routes with operating systems | 23:15 |
| m14ed | i was fortunate to grab this Piece of History/antiquity a year or so ago ,, and have not had a chance to play with it | 23:17 |
| m14ed | a few query's here and there, got me a few basics , but no real hints what not to do first off | 23:18 |
| sicelo | m14ed: s|history/antiquity|the future| | 23:18 |
| m14ed | very familiar with freenode / | 23:18 |
| m14ed | sicelo: ? sorry sir - explain | 23:19 |
| m14ed | nokia n900 purchased for $20 usd | 23:19 |
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| m14ed | future ? play with it and enjoy - like a kid with a toy | 23:20 |
| sicelo | i'm saying the N900, at least tosome of us, doesn't represent the past. it represents the future ... we will be taking them to the future with us, as long as they last | 23:20 |
| * sicelo is typing/reading this on N900 at this very moment | 23:21 | |
| m14ed | oh - yes sir - almost forgot what a n900 was between them being released back when and my purchase last year | 23:21 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Yep I am not planning on using any other device but I will be made up if we get a modern browser in the foreseeable future. | 23:22 |
| m14ed | browsers are the current pain of most linux users is it not | 23:23 |
| m14ed | it/they = browsers | 23:23 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~closed | 23:24 |
| infobot | closed is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages or https://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages, or http://elinux.org/N900, or https://wiki.maemo.org/Free_Maemo | 23:24 |
| sixwheeledbeast | is one issue. | 23:24 |
| m14ed | yes - am aware of software shutdown sites and such | 23:24 |
| m14ed | dial nokia - nobody home - | 23:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast | you never know a tarball from some old nokia employee may appear... | 23:27 |
| m14ed | truth is stranger than fiction | 23:28 |
| m14ed | old farts have a tendency not giving up things and ideas that work - instance IRC - tincans and string | 23:30 |
| m14ed | Gentlemen - | 23:37 |
| m14ed | thank you for the help you have given - | 23:37 |
| m14ed | good luck and good health - | 23:37 |
| m14ed | hope to return | 23:38 |
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