IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2019-02-28

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sixwheeledbeastEveryone loves insta-profit00:37
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Vajbso far I have found just one flaw from by restored backup. Devices security code has not changed.06:25
Maxdamantusiirc that's stored in flash.06:32
Maxdamantus(flash other than the filesystem, that is)06:38
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Vajboh, that explains.07:11
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Vajbdo you know any screen protectors that you could recommend fro n900?07:58
Vajbasking because I just used my last celly screen protector and it seems they are not made anymore.07:59
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KotCzarnyvajb: i just use regular one that i cut down to size08:59
KotCzarny2usd/10pcs08:59
KotCzarny;)08:59
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KotCzarnyso when it starts getting off i cut another08:59
Vajbhmm if I order protector for bigger screen I might get two from one :p09:03
Vajbcool idea09:03
KotCzarnyjust keep in mind the cut is best done with exacto knife, not scissors09:03
KotCzarnyso you wont bend the plastic09:03
KotCzarnyand cut corners a bit too09:04
KotCzarnyso they wont start peeling of that easily09:04
Vajbyou mean round corners?09:12
Vajbit sure feels starnge to have buttons which have some friction and labels on them :p09:13
VajbI just hope this is as stable hw wise09:13
KotCzarnyvajb: yeah, so you wont have a square but a square with little triangles cut off at the corners09:16
* Maxdamantus needs to get around to doing that.09:16
KotCzarnycutting them round would be best, but not exactly easy with exactly knife09:17
KotCzarny*exacto09:18
MaxdamantusPresumably easier with scissors.09:18
* Maxdamantus hasn't used exacto knifes much though.09:18
KotCzarnybut scissors bend the plastic09:18
KotCzarnywhich makes the foil not to stick well at that part09:19
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Vajboh well. I seem to have been disconnected while phone was in my pocket...09:54
Vajbat least I have better screen :)09:54
KotCzarnyfor me switching to 2G helped09:55
KotCzarnyso far it only disconnected once, compared to few times a day on 3g09:55
KotCzarnyand not a single 'no sim'09:56
VajbI saw nothing odd either. Just saw from irc log.09:57
DocScrutinizer05powerkernel afaik uses BME-replacement by default10:01
DocScrutinizer05which is known to not really work with battery applet iirc10:01
DocScrutinizer05reboot during bootmenu is usually caused by nobody tickling watchdog, BM has a script doing that usually10:02
VajbDocScrutinizer05: this time problem is that bootmenu.item doesn't find BackupMenuLauncher.item. Moving that launcher file to /etc/bootmenu.d was only solution that worked for me.10:05
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DocScrutinizer05Vajb: no clue, should be /usr/share/backupmenu/BackupMenuLauncher.item10:59
DocScrutinizer05https://pastebin.com/671CSC0011:00
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sicelobme-replacement is a a separate install, not tied to PK.11:25
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sixwheeledbeastYes. it has it's own repo.11:33
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luke-jrcan i play pokemon go on n900?12:03
sixwheeledbeastios or andriod only. you would need to get apkenv working and have a google store account.12:08
KotCzarnyor vnc server?12:08
KotCzarnyalthough that would require passing gps coords somehow12:09
sixwheeledbeastin that case just play the "proper" game12:09
luke-jrI've put the "proper" games behind me12:10
luke-jrI also haven't powered on my N900 in over a year. :x12:11
sixwheeledbeasti think you can play the roms on n900, now I think about it.12:11
KotCzarnymy n900 is powered on since 200912:11
sixwheeledbeast^12:11
KotCzarnyas for gaming, gweled is my top1 app12:12
luke-jrI've migrated entirely to Pixel XL + GPD Win 212:12
sixwheeledbeast204812:12
KotCzarnyother fun games are gnurobbo and hex-a-hop12:12
sixwheeledbeastand thembloodyduck12:14
sixwheeledbeasts12:14
luke-jrdon't forget all the fun CVEs12:14
KotCzarnyyou dont get cves if you dont connect to the internet ;)12:15
luke-jrwhat is the N900 for if not that?12:15
KotCzarnyphone?12:15
KotCzarnyalso, pocket console12:15
KotCzarnyand pocket audio player12:16
KotCzarny(for me)12:16
KotCzarnydoubles as pendrive sometimes too12:16
siceloluke-jr: maemo-leste12:19
luke-jrsicelo: wat?12:20
luke-jrKotCzarny: phone and console require internet12:20
KotCzarnysure, but my audio player uses latest libav12:21
sicelothere's now Maemo Leste - based on Devuan. say bye bye to the CVEsYou may want to check it out12:22
KotCzarnyalso, phone uses gsm not internet to connect12:22
KotCzarnyand console is mostly ssh/telnet12:22
sixwheeledbeastI don't think my device is never not behind a firewall of some sort. I don't use mobile data.12:29
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sixwheeledbeastWhat CVE's in particular anyway?12:31
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siceloi don't think he's talking about specific ones, but that the OS has very old components that are known (or likely to) have a number of CVE's againsts them12:48
sixwheeledbeastI can only recall ssh. Some of the components are so old they where pre CVE12:55
sixwheeledbeasthttps on browser is an issue I admit12:55
Vajbsixwheeledbeast: your top scroere in 2048 is?13:10
VajbDocScrutinizer05: that's where it was, but backupmenu.item didn't find it from there. I quadruble checked that file path.13:11
sixwheeledbeastVajb: Maemo?13:11
Vajbyeah13:12
Vajbscore*13:12
sixwheeledbeastwok is a cool game too13:12
sixwheeledbeastI have no idea seems to have reset13:13
Vajbi like puzzles game pack13:13
Vajbsixwheeledbeast: it wont show your top unless you start new game in it13:13
sixwheeledbeastThat's embarrassing... 3328813:14
VajbI have score: 180596 and number: 8192 :p13:15
sixwheeledbeastDo note that Maemo 2048 is slightly easy than original version due to a small bug ;)13:15
VajbI felt a bit fooled after I got firs 4k number. It kinda rules the name13:15
KotCzarnyi have 330000+ in gweled :P13:15
Vajbyes, I know, but since this is channel named maemo, I don't care :p13:16
VajbI think I haven't played gweled13:17
KotCzarnynice timewaster13:17
KotCzarnymatch-313:17
Vajbbut I recently installed Rocks'n'diamonds13:17
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brolin_empeyWTF?  Facebook is an “Android system app” on the stock OS on the LG G5 and cannot be uninstalled, at least not from the Google Play Store on Android?13:59
KotCzarnysupport google, it's good14:00
KotCzarnyclosed OS is next best thing under the moon14:00
brolin_empeyAt least I do not use Apple iOS, the Icon of Sin. :-P14:03
KotCzarnygoogle is heading straight to hell14:04
brolin_empeyIcon of Sin was a reference to Doom II: Hell on Earth in case you missed it.14:05
KotCzarnyi did.14:05
VajbI just love android's individual app settings. Can render facebook in its little bubble f you wish14:07
KotCzarnyit still runs in bg14:07
KotCzarnynot every android allows you to disable builtin apks14:07
brolin_empeyTyping idclev30 (id Software change level to 30) in Doom II will warp to MAP30: Icon of Sin.14:07
Vajbit does, but if it is blocked from every access it can't do much14:07
Vajboh didn't know it might be os version dependent feature14:08
VajbI use Lineage os14:08
luke-jrbrolin_empey: you can disable system apps14:10
luke-jrbrolin_empey: they can't be uninstalled because they're part of the ROM14:10
KotCzarnyluke-jr: not on every android14:10
luke-jron stock Android at least14:10
KotCzarnymost people have some samsung14:10
KotCzarnywhich allows disabling for some14:11
KotCzarnybut not for all14:11
KotCzarnyafair i had some that i would like to nuke, yet they were on 'dont touch' list14:11
brolin_empeyI do not want to replace the stock OS after my bad experience replacing the OS on my Galaxy Note 3, which still has strange effects from replacing the stock OS even after reverting to the stock OS.  I reverted to the stock OS because my CyanogenMod installation broke and could not be fixed.14:12
luke-jrthen ssh to it and use pm hide14:12
KotCzarnyno root, no fun14:13
luke-jrI'd love to use LineageOS on my Pixel XL, but AIUI Google will sabotage my phone if I do14:13
KotCzarnybut i treat rooting as a temporary workaround working thanks to holes in os14:13
KotCzarnywhich get closed, and target being closed os without user moddability14:14
sunshaviKotCzarny: Your chinese battery works fine with the battery applet?14:16
sunshaviKotCzarny: mine is not working battery applet does not show the level of charge14:17
sunshaviKotCzarny: and phone turns off unexpectedly without the battery applet noticing it14:17
KotCzarnysunshavi: maybe you can transplant the head of the battery14:17
KotCzarnybut best is to just buy polarcell or something14:18
brolin_empeyAll of the Pixel series has a difficult to remove battery if I recall correctly.  The LG G5 and V20 still have an easily removable battery but the G6 and V30 do not.14:18
sunshaviKotCzarny: polarcell works fine with battery applet then?14:18
KotCzarnysunshavi: many people use them without problems, so i assume: yes14:18
KotCzarnymine is 'mept-5800n maxximus extra power 1600mAh'14:19
KotCzarnybut i got it used as a part of some other n90014:19
KotCzarnyand dont know its history14:19
sunshaviKotCzarny: 'mept-5800n maxximus extra power 1600mAh' works fine with battery applet?14:19
KotCzarnysunshavi: yes, shows capacity, and in battery-eye other stats14:20
sicelosunshavi: stock battery applet?14:20
sunshavisicelo: yes14:20
KotCzarnyfun part it shows ~1240mAh14:20
KotCzarnywhich is way lower than stated '1600' ;)14:20
siceloi mean, not bme-replacement, for example?14:20
KotCzarnyso just buy polarcell and get real 1500mAh14:20
sunshaviguys. brb14:20
brolin_empeyAlso, the analog audio connector was removed from the Pixel series unless the Pixel 3 or a later model (changes too quickly, I lost track) readded it.14:22
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brolin_empeyOn any form of Android, is it possible to set a limit on cellular data usage per application instead of only for all applications?  I want to install RescueTime for Android on my LG G5 but I removed RescueTime from my Galaxy Note 3 because RescueTime for Android transferred over 1 GB (!!!) over the cellular data network in one billing period when my quota is only 2 GB per billing period but I do not know if RescueTime transferred this much information15:22
brolin_empeybecause it got stuck because the minimum version of Android was increased from 4.4 or earlier to 5.0 while I was still using it but my Galaxy Note 3 is still stuck on 4.4 thanks to Samsung, which is part of my reason for switching to the LG G5 running Android OS 8.15:22
brolin_empeyI mean billing period for cellular service, which is one month but not a calendar month.  My billing period for RescueTime is one year but not a calendar year.15:24
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brolin_empeyDoes Apple omit a “delete to the right” key from some of their hardware keyboards for left-to-right languages because the OS has a modifier key for the Backspace/“delete to the left” key to delete to the right instead of to the left?  I mean does Mac OS X have such a modifier?  It occurs to me that such a modifier may be why Apple omits this key from some keyboards.15:51
brolin_empeyThe Commodore 64 keyboard does not even have dedicated arrow keys for all four directions but the Commodore 128 keyboard does.15:53
siceloyou write English-Greek sometimes :p16:18
sicelo... RescueTime for Android transferred over 1 GB ... but I do not know if RescueTime transferred this much information ... one month but not a calendar month ... one year but not a calendar year16:19
siceloi admit it can be understood after a while16:19
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DocScrutinizer05Vajb: bootmenu and vackupmenu are very simple and sgellscript-based. can't be hard to check each single aspect and detail20:08
DocScrutinizer05backupmenu20:08
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DocScrutinizer05https://pastebin.com/NCksYSQy20:16
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VajbDocScrutinizer05: I went even further and took md5sum against each file I considered part of it and they were equal with my other device. Only difference being that in other device it works as expected and with other it does not.22:54
VajbAnd in my freshly flashed device it worked too, but not in the restored backup. So something is off in my setup, but it does not matter since now I know how to circle that problem.22:55
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