| sicelo | you actually should be able to take it out without disassembling entire device, although doing so is likely better to avoid breaking anything | 00:00 |
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| Vajb | well it sure sounds like taking whole device apart is more risky :p | 00:05 |
| Vajb | but I can try with my other device and see how it folds out | 00:05 |
| sicelo | it's not risky at all. anyone can do it. really | 00:08 |
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| brolin_empey | https://k2.okccdn.com/php/load_okc_image.php/images/36x37/683x684/0/14973695938364948173.webp?v=2 | 08:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | why the heck would you remove the cellular antenna? | 08:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: your problem is actually (SSI interface to) modem: | 08:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Feb 16 15:14:29 Nokia-N900 kernel: [ 7934.904876] McSAAB: ------- TX WATCHDOG TIMER trigerred ----- | 08:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Feb 16 15:14:29 Nokia-N900 kernel: [ 7934.904968] McSAAB: ACWake line 00000001 | 08:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this either means the interface got disconnected (nroken solder joint), or - more likely -the modem went into shut down state for whatever reason, in an unexpected way that the fremantle "drivers" didn't notice | 08:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | one such trigger could be undervoltage from battery | 08:36 |
| Vajb | DocScrutinizer05: I suspect solder join. Because I have noticed that temperature affects it. | 08:40 |
| Vajb | and I was planning to remove cellular antenna just to rule out possibility of weak connection there. | 08:43 |
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| sicelo | Vajb: yes yours is clearly now not antenna related - those were possibilities to explore earlier. | 18:38 |
| sicelo | incidentally, for the last few days, i am using a different operaor - thoe one which my No00 doesn't "like" | 18:39 |
| sicelo | i have also got a couple of modem resets, and Internet connectivity is really bd. | 18:40 |
| sicelo | i am just waiting to depelte the data plan on it, and switch bad. i cleaned the SIM card | 18:40 |
| sicelo | so you may also, just for the fun of it at least, test a different operator | 18:41 |
| sicelo | s/depelte/deplete/ | 18:41 |
| sicelo | paste.debian.net/1068431/ | 18:46 |
| sicelo | this does not happen with the other operator ... dunno if this would be a plausible theory: the 'bad' operator has some instability on their network, and N900 modem keeps trying to keep up/adapt, until it gives up and restarts (buggy?) | 18:49 |
| sicelo | in my case, it is not a SIM issue, as i have also tried a brand new SIM | 18:49 |
| sicelo | i've also had this problem for at least 2 years, but usage is perfect with the 2nd operator | 18:50 |
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| Vajb | yeah I got new sim as well. I could purchase prepaid sim I thing to test. | 19:14 |
| Vajb | but I think I'll make backup first and try with other device. | 19:15 |
| sicelo | other device? | 19:20 |
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| sicelo | what other device you mean Vajb? | 19:46 |
| Vajb | other n900 | 19:48 |
| Vajb | I have three ;) | 19:48 |
| Vajb | but Im lazy and stubborn and don't wanna give up with this one | 19:48 |
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| sicelo | lol. you're unfair to us :D | 20:08 |
| sicelo | you mean you haven't even tested this 'problem' on one of the other N900 at all up to now? | 20:09 |
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| ontime | What can cause huge mem usage by 'hald' after some time? Stop & start 'hal' frees mem but it reboots also. | 20:15 |
| ontime | https://transfer.sh/ThiCQ/Screenshot-20190216-222336.png | 20:15 |
| ontime | https://transfer.sh/HkNDL/Screenshot-20190216-224937.png | 20:15 |
| Vajb | no I haven't. Other is having devuan so would need flashing and another is untouched by me so would require flashing too | 20:17 |
| sicelo | devuan? you didn't install devuan on a uSD card? | 20:22 |
| Vajb | hmm now that you mentioned I am not sure. It's been awhile. I followed Enrico_Menotti's instructions. | 20:36 |
| sicelo | i don't think anyone is installing to eMMC yet. | 20:39 |
| Vajb | well if nothing else I've created some conversation :) | 20:42 |
| sicelo | ontime: no idea. you don't have something nstalled which might 'confuse' hald? such as battery managers perhaps? | 20:44 |
| ontime | i2cget and i2cset are most use | 20:45 |
| ontime | is sd card only one option? I want to test devuan and internal eMMC would be best option | 20:46 |
| ontime | Vajb: I've fixed gsm failure by adding spongy thing between metal can and gsm chip | 20:46 |
| ontime | but after several months when I've disassembled device this fixed occured temporary | 20:47 |
| ontime | dbus-monitor shows a lot constantly: signal sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> dest=(null destination) serial=71943 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=NameOwnerChanged | 20:56 |
| ontime | probably because of gsm chip failure? | 20:56 |
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| ontime | I'll turn off script with i2cset, use it for setting battery voltage to 3.85 when device is on charger | 20:59 |
| sicelo | yes, do that. | 21:07 |
| sicelo | you're using bme-replacment? | 21:07 |
| ontime | didn't touch bme, only i2cset | 21:11 |
| ontime | turns it off, seems help, because that above 'dbus member=NameOwnerChanged' disappear | 21:18 |
| ontime | might be that | 21:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~+uptime | 22:17 |
| infobot | - Uptime for purl - | 22:17 |
| infobot | Now: 1h 20m 54s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux | 22:17 |
| infobot | 1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 2010 | 22:17 |
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| infobot | 3: 53d 8h 24m 4s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Nov 7 05:34:20 2017 | 22:17 |
| sicelo | DocScrutinizer05: any ideas with my modem issues? http://paste.debian.net/1068431/ | 22:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Feb 17 16:44:44 Nokia-N900 kernel: [ 239.880493] * CMT rst line change detected (0) | 22:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the modem triggered a restart | 22:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | AIUI | 22:23 |
| sicelo | it only seems to happen with this one operator, where i have flaky Internet connection. with the other operator, connection is always good, and i don't recall having these restarts there | 22:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe the fremantle driver (icd, ssc, csd, whatever) is supposed to send keep-alive pings via SSI aka McSAAB and didn't do, so the modem decided to assert the reset line to make fremantle reset the modem and drivers? | 22:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I have no really good idea of what's going on in context of this SSI iterface between modem and OMAP | 22:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I just know SSI/HSI is a PITA since it's IRQ driven and one lost IRQ will make the whole interface stall | 22:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you'd hope they use level IRQ detection, not edge | 22:29 |
| sicelo | keeping a constant ping helps a lot in my case - the restarts don't happen (at least not frequently) | 22:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh | 22:45 |
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