IRC log of #maemo for Sunday, 2019-02-17

siceloyou actually should be able to take it out without disassembling entire device, although doing so is likely better to avoid breaking anything00:00
Vajbwell it sure sounds like taking whole device apart is more risky :p00:05
Vajbbut I can try with my other device and see how it folds out00:05
siceloit's not risky at all. anyone can do it. really00:08
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DocScrutinizer05why the heck would you remove the cellular antenna?08:19
DocScrutinizer05Vajb: your problem is actually (SSI interface to) modem:08:30
DocScrutinizer05Feb 16 15:14:29 Nokia-N900 kernel: [ 7934.904876] McSAAB: ------- TX WATCHDOG TIMER trigerred -----08:30
DocScrutinizer05Feb 16 15:14:29 Nokia-N900 kernel: [ 7934.904968] McSAAB: ACWake line 0000000108:30
DocScrutinizer05this either means the interface got disconnected (nroken solder joint), or - more likely -the modem went into shut down state for whatever reason, in an unexpected way that the fremantle "drivers" didn't notice08:36
DocScrutinizer05one such trigger could be undervoltage from battery08:36
VajbDocScrutinizer05: I suspect solder join. Because I have noticed that temperature affects it.08:40
Vajband I was planning to remove cellular antenna just to rule out possibility of weak connection there.08:43
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siceloVajb: yes yours is clearly now not antenna related - those were possibilities to explore earlier.18:38
siceloincidentally, for the last few days, i am using a different operaor - thoe one which my No00 doesn't "like"18:39
siceloi have also got a couple of modem resets, and Internet connectivity is really bd.18:40
siceloi am just waiting to depelte the data plan on it, and switch bad. i cleaned the SIM card18:40
siceloso you may also, just for the fun of it at least, test a different operator18:41
sicelothis does not happen with the other operator ... dunno if this would be a plausible theory: the 'bad' operator has some instability on their network, and N900 modem keeps trying to keep up/adapt, until it gives up and restarts (buggy?)18:49
siceloin my case, it is not a SIM issue, as i have also tried a brand new SIM18:49
siceloi've also had this problem for at least 2 years, but usage is perfect with the 2nd operator18:50
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Vajbyeah I got new sim as well. I could purchase prepaid sim I thing to test.19:14
Vajbbut I think I'll make backup first and try with other device.19:15
siceloother device?19:20
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sicelowhat other device you mean Vajb?19:46
Vajbother n90019:48
VajbI have three ;)19:48
Vajbbut Im lazy and stubborn and don't wanna give up with this one19:48
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sicelolol. you're unfair to us :D20:08
siceloyou mean you haven't even tested this 'problem' on one of the other N900 at all up to now?20:09
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ontimeWhat can cause huge mem usage by 'hald' after some time? Stop & start 'hal' frees mem but it reboots also.20:15
Vajbno I haven't. Other is having devuan so would need flashing and another is untouched by me so would require flashing too20:17
sicelodevuan? you didn't install devuan on a uSD card?20:22
Vajbhmm now that you mentioned I am not sure. It's been awhile. I followed Enrico_Menotti's instructions.20:36
siceloi don't think anyone is installing to eMMC yet.20:39
Vajbwell if nothing else I've created some conversation :)20:42
siceloontime: no idea. you don't have something nstalled which might 'confuse' hald? such as battery managers perhaps?20:44
ontimei2cget and i2cset are most use20:45
ontimeis sd card only one option? I want to test devuan and internal eMMC would be best option20:46
ontimeVajb: I've fixed gsm failure by adding spongy thing between metal can and gsm chip20:46
ontimebut after several months when I've disassembled device this fixed occured temporary20:47
ontimedbus-monitor shows a lot constantly: signal sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> dest=(null destination) serial=71943 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=NameOwnerChanged20:56
ontimeprobably because of gsm chip failure?20:56
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ontimeI'll turn off script with i2cset, use it for setting battery voltage to 3.85 when device is on charger20:59
siceloyes, do that.21:07
siceloyou're using bme-replacment?21:07
ontimedidn't touch bme, only i2cset21:11
ontimeturns it off, seems help, because that above 'dbus member=NameOwnerChanged' disappear21:18
ontimemight be that21:18
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infobot- Uptime for purl -22:17
infobotNow: 1h 20m 54s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux22:17
infobot1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 201022:17
infobot2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 200922:17
infobot3: 53d 8h 24m 4s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Nov  7 05:34:20 201722:17
siceloDocScrutinizer05: any ideas with my modem  issues?
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DocScrutinizer05Feb 17 16:44:44 Nokia-N900 kernel: [  239.880493] * CMT rst line change detected (0)22:23
DocScrutinizer05the modem triggered a restart22:23
siceloit only seems to happen with this one operator, where i have flaky Internet connection. with the other operator, connection is always good, and i don't recall having these restarts there22:26
DocScrutinizer05maybe the fremantle driver (icd, ssc, csd, whatever) is supposed to send keep-alive pings via SSI aka McSAAB and didn't do, so the modem decided to assert the reset line to make fremantle reset the modem and drivers?22:26
DocScrutinizer05I have no really good idea of what's going on in context of this SSI iterface between modem and OMAP22:28
DocScrutinizer05I just know SSI/HSI is a PITA since it's IRQ driven and one lost IRQ will make the whole interface stall22:28
DocScrutinizer05you'd hope they use level IRQ detection, not edge22:29
sicelokeeping a constant ping helps a lot in my case - the restarts don't happen (at least not frequently)22:31
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