IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2018-11-23

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rhombusHi, I'm trying to install the python-gobject package.11:54
rhombussudo doesn't seem to work...11:54
rhombusand when I log into the device as root via ssh and wifi, it's really slow11:55
rhombusand apt-get install fails because apt-get can't lock the dpkg file11:55
rhombusdpkg/lock, sorry11:55
KotCzarnyinstall rootsh ?11:55
rhombusKotCzarny: yeah, I wanted to do that, but it doesn't seem to be in the catalogue11:56
rhombusKotCzarny: I have the Extras repository, so that seems odd11:56
KotCzarnyand if you have ssh working already, just do ssh root@localhost11:56
KotCzarnyto get root11:56
rhombusKotCzarny: ah!!!11:56
rhombusMan, that should have been obvious11:56
rhombusbut why can't I get rootsh?11:56
KotCzarnyand to speed up ssh via wifi, just take down power saving in wifi options11:57
KotCzarnyit's much more convenient to use pc and ssh to n90011:57
rhombusKotCzarny: Where are the wifi options? In Settings?11:57
KotCzarnyby default wifi power saving is at max, which kills ssh interactivity11:57
KotCzarnyyes, it's probably in advanced wjen you edit connections11:58
rhombusKotCzarny: Ok, found it11:59
rhombusKotCzarny: hm. Still very slow. I probably need to restart the connection, yes?12:00
KotCzarnymight be, try12:00
rhombusKotCzarny: so why can't I see rootsh?12:00
rhombusKotCzarny: in the application manager, I mean12:00
rhombusah, good, installing python-gobject is working... sorta. It's hanging at "waiting for headers"... probably the wifi again12:01
KotCzarnyor weird returns from dns12:02
rhombus restarting the interface worked12:02
rhombusit's installing12:02
KotCzarnyturn off power saving temporarily to confirm?12:02
rhombusKotCzarny: power saving is off now (I think)12:03
rhombusit's on again12:03
rhombusIs that normal?12:03
KotCzarnytry disconnecting12:04
KotCzarnyediting connection, then connecting12:04
rhombusok, it automatically restarted the connection12:04
rhombusmaybe I didn't hit the right button :(12:04
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rhombusok, now it shows as off12:05
KotCzarnyfor me intermediate setting is good enough12:05
KotCzarnybut it depends on ap and network quality12:05
rhombusmy AP is suboptimal, it's running OpenBSD 6.2 with an atheros interface. It works, but the driver doesn't support the full range of protocols12:07
rhombusOk, so... the rootsh problem; why am I not seeing this in the program manager?12:08
KotCzarnybecause it's cli program most likely without proper category set12:09
rhombusKotCzarny: but if I choose "all" shouldn't it then appear?12:09
KotCzarnywhich might be intentional12:09
KotCzarnyall wont show all12:09
rhombusall won't show all?12:09
rhombusOk - how do I find it, then?12:10
KotCzarnyapt-cache search rootsh12:10
KotCzarnyit's not for regular joe anyway12:10
rhombusah, so I can't install it through the App Manager?12:10
KotCzarnytruly i dont remember12:10
KotCzarnywas long time ago, and havent reinstalled my n900 for many years12:11
KotCzarnyand if you have ssh working, you dont really need it12:11
rhombusKotCzarny: ok. I'll use ssh then. No need to complicate things further.12:12
KotCzarnymake an alias or put a script named rootsh into /usr/local/bin12:12
KotCzarnythat will call ssh line12:12
rhombusok, thanks for the tip12:14
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MoeIcenowyI think rootsh is installable in HAM12:49
KotCzarnydo you see it in pkg list?12:49
* KotCzarny is a bit lazy to fire up ham12:50
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MoeIcenowyKotCzarny: I used Faster Application Manager to install it13:33
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KotCzarnyoh, then it's there, but fam is discouraged, you know?13:35
infobothamvsfam is probably, or
infoboti heard fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam13:36
infobotspeedyham is probably 30 times faster than HAM, now included in CSSU.13:36
DocScrutinizer05rhombus: in HAM you got a few option flags in settings menu, one of them makes truly all packages visible14:54
DocScrutinizer05but the canonical method to install CLI progarms (except rootsh, for obvious reasons) is via cmdline by apt-get install <package>14:56
DocScrutinizer05rootsh however must be there when you got the right repos enabled15:01
infobothmm... pkg is
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MoeIcenowyoh I didn't know fam is so badly reputed16:07
KotCzarnywho knows, maybe it got better16:07
MoeIcenowyso I will choose to use CSSU HAM instead of FAM now16:08
MoeIcenowybut to be honest the main speed barrier here is that at China the speed to access is quite slow ;-)16:09
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infobotfrom memory, ham is Hildon Application Manager.  Slow as molasses. Anticipate you got time for a beer or two until it finishes whatever it does, or see ~speedyham16:33
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