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| rhombus | Hi, I'm trying to install the python-gobject package. | 11:54 |
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| rhombus | sudo doesn't seem to work... | 11:54 |
| rhombus | and when I log into the device as root via ssh and wifi, it's really slow | 11:55 |
| rhombus | and apt-get install fails because apt-get can't lock the dpkg file | 11:55 |
| rhombus | dpkg/lock, sorry | 11:55 |
| KotCzarny | install rootsh ? | 11:55 |
| rhombus | KotCzarny: yeah, I wanted to do that, but it doesn't seem to be in the catalogue | 11:56 |
| rhombus | KotCzarny: I have the Extras repository, so that seems odd | 11:56 |
| KotCzarny | and if you have ssh working already, just do ssh root@localhost | 11:56 |
| KotCzarny | to get root | 11:56 |
| rhombus | KotCzarny: ah!!! | 11:56 |
| rhombus | Man, that should have been obvious | 11:56 |
| rhombus | but why can't I get rootsh? | 11:56 |
| KotCzarny | and to speed up ssh via wifi, just take down power saving in wifi options | 11:57 |
| KotCzarny | it's much more convenient to use pc and ssh to n900 | 11:57 |
| rhombus | KotCzarny: Where are the wifi options? In Settings? | 11:57 |
| KotCzarny | by default wifi power saving is at max, which kills ssh interactivity | 11:57 |
| KotCzarny | yes, it's probably in advanced wjen you edit connections | 11:58 |
| rhombus | KotCzarny: Ok, found it | 11:59 |
| rhombus | KotCzarny: hm. Still very slow. I probably need to restart the connection, yes? | 12:00 |
| KotCzarny | might be, try | 12:00 |
| rhombus | KotCzarny: so why can't I see rootsh? | 12:00 |
| rhombus | KotCzarny: in the application manager, I mean | 12:00 |
| rhombus | ah, good, installing python-gobject is working... sorta. It's hanging at "waiting for headers"... probably the wifi again | 12:01 |
| KotCzarny | or weird returns from dns | 12:02 |
| rhombus | restarting the interface worked | 12:02 |
| rhombus | it's installing | 12:02 |
| KotCzarny | turn off power saving temporarily to confirm? | 12:02 |
| rhombus | KotCzarny: power saving is off now (I think) | 12:03 |
| rhombus | *checking* | 12:03 |
| rhombus | argh | 12:03 |
| rhombus | it's on again | 12:03 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 12:03 |
| rhombus | Is that normal? | 12:03 |
| KotCzarny | nope | 12:03 |
| KotCzarny | try disconnecting | 12:04 |
| KotCzarny | editing connection, then connecting | 12:04 |
| rhombus | ok, it automatically restarted the connection | 12:04 |
| rhombus | maybe I didn't hit the right button :( | 12:04 |
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| rhombus | ok, now it shows as off | 12:05 |
| KotCzarny | for me intermediate setting is good enough | 12:05 |
| KotCzarny | but it depends on ap and network quality | 12:05 |
| rhombus | my AP is suboptimal, it's running OpenBSD 6.2 with an atheros interface. It works, but the driver doesn't support the full range of protocols | 12:07 |
| rhombus | Ok, so... the rootsh problem; why am I not seeing this in the program manager? | 12:08 |
| KotCzarny | because it's cli program most likely without proper category set | 12:09 |
| rhombus | KotCzarny: but if I choose "all" shouldn't it then appear? | 12:09 |
| KotCzarny | which might be intentional | 12:09 |
| KotCzarny | yeah | 12:09 |
| KotCzarny | all wont show all | 12:09 |
| rhombus | all won't show all? | 12:09 |
| KotCzarny | nope | 12:10 |
| rhombus | Ok - how do I find it, then? | 12:10 |
| KotCzarny | apt-cache search rootsh | 12:10 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 12:10 |
| KotCzarny | it's not for regular joe anyway | 12:10 |
| rhombus | ah, so I can't install it through the App Manager? | 12:10 |
| KotCzarny | truly i dont remember | 12:10 |
| KotCzarny | was long time ago, and havent reinstalled my n900 for many years | 12:11 |
| KotCzarny | and if you have ssh working, you dont really need it | 12:11 |
| rhombus | KotCzarny: ok. I'll use ssh then. No need to complicate things further. | 12:12 |
| KotCzarny | make an alias or put a script named rootsh into /usr/local/bin | 12:12 |
| KotCzarny | that will call ssh line | 12:12 |
| rhombus | ok, thanks for the tip | 12:14 |
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| MoeIcenowy | I think rootsh is installable in HAM | 12:49 |
| KotCzarny | do you see it in pkg list? | 12:49 |
| * KotCzarny is a bit lazy to fire up ham | 12:50 | |
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| MoeIcenowy | KotCzarny: I used Faster Application Manager to install it | 13:33 |
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| KotCzarny | oh, then it's there, but fam is discouraged, you know? | 13:35 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~hamvsfam | 13:35 |
| infobot | hamvsfam is probably https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 | 13:35 |
| KotCzarny | ~fam | 13:36 |
| infobot | i heard fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam | 13:36 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~speedyham | 13:36 |
| infobot | speedyham is probably 30 times faster than HAM https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-application-manager, now included in CSSU. | 13:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rhombus: in HAM you got a few option flags in settings menu, one of them makes truly all packages visible | 14:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but the canonical method to install CLI progarms (except rootsh, for obvious reasons) is via cmdline by apt-get install <package> | 14:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rootsh however must be there when you got the right repos enabled | 15:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~pkg | 15:02 |
| infobot | hmm... pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ | 15:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/rootsh/ | 15:02 |
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| MoeIcenowy | oh I didn't know fam is so badly reputed | 16:07 |
| KotCzarny | who knows, maybe it got better | 16:07 |
| MoeIcenowy | so I will choose to use CSSU HAM instead of FAM now | 16:08 |
| MoeIcenowy | but to be honest the main speed barrier here is that at China the speed to access maemo.org is quite slow ;-) | 16:09 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | ~ham | 16:33 |
| infobot | from memory, ham is Hildon Application Manager. Slow as molasses. Anticipate you got time for a beer or two until it finishes whatever it does, or see ~speedyham | 16:33 |
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