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| Voo | i wanna sell source code bot scanner coded by me , by btc | 02:51 | 
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| Voo | i wanna sell source code bot scanner coded by me , by btc /j #ssd | 03:35 | 
| Maxdamantus | !ops | 03:37 | 
| buZz | Voo: this is not the place for it | 03:37 | 
| Voo | ok sorry | 03:37 | 
| * Oksanaa agrees with trx, easier to find whole housing than just stylus, atm https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Black-Housing-faceplate-Cover-Facia-Fascia-for-nokia-N900-case-with-Stylus/392089080903 | 03:58 | |
| * Oksanaa did 3D print Nokia N900 stylus, some time ago - fragile, but works, if I remember correctly. Just keep screen protector on N900. | 04:05 | |
| Oksanaa | This one, probably https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:21911 | 04:15 | 
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| brolin_empey | I exchanged the Samsung UHD video monitor with TN panel for an LG UHD video monitor with IPS panel because TN panels suck. | 09:14 | 
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| KotCzarny | lol | 18:50 | 
| KotCzarny | poor wizzup | 18:50 | 
| bencoh | gnu | 18:55 | 
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| xes | https://www.ebay.com/itm/PENNOKN900-N-Pennino-per-Nokia-N900-Black-Original-originale/142851339758?hash=item21429a75ee:g:X1wAAOSw~ztbOdLq | 18:58 | 
| KotCzarny | xes, seen the shipping? | 19:00 | 
| KotCzarny | they must be sending it on a pallet | 19:00 | 
| xes | KotCzarny: how much is it asking for shipping (on your browser)? | 19:03 | 
| KotCzarny | 30eur | 19:03 | 
| xes | :) | 19:03 | 
| KotCzarny | from .it to .pl | 19:03 | 
| KotCzarny | so kinda off hook bat shit crazy | 19:04 | 
| sixwheeledbeast | its italy shipping is expensive | 19:04 | 
| xes | they made some mistake :) | 19:04 | 
| KotCzarny | i can ship 1kg package to hongkong for 15eur | 19:04 | 
| KotCzarny | with insurance and delivery confirmation | 19:05 | 
| xes | please don't tell me what you are shipping to HK that weights 1KG | 19:05 | 
| KotCzarny | broken ssd | 19:06 | 
| KotCzarny | :P | 19:06 | 
| KotCzarny | what you had on mind? | 19:06 | 
| xes | i really can't imagine anything of that volume that you could write about | 19:07 | 
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| KotCzarny | anyway, never buy noname ssd from aliexpress | 19:08 | 
| KotCzarny | it worked almost exactly 1 month | 19:08 | 
| KotCzarny | then just disappeared from the system | 19:09 | 
| KotCzarny | and i didnt even made it do any hard work | 19:09 | 
| xes | don't worry, early intel ssd behave almost the same way ;) | 19:09 | 
| KotCzarny | just filled it over 90%, then some garbage collection run started to get hairy, then after one freeze it just disappeared | 19:10 | 
| xes | after some time they swith to ZERO size "mode" | 19:10 | 
| KotCzarny | nah, it doesnt even show as a device | 19:10 | 
| DocScrutinizer05 | bathtub steep way down to sink | 19:10 | 
| KotCzarny | unless you know some trick to do low level reset | 19:10 | 
| xes | check if there is PWM voltage adapter on board.. | 19:11 | 
| KotCzarny | i dont want to open it, going to ship it back to get either replacement or refund | 19:11 | 
| KotCzarny | but tell me more in case i have similar situatio in the future | 19:11 | 
| xes | ssd power management is a mess and could produce high temperatures of power regulators (expecially if very cheap) | 19:13 | 
| xes | or if you use msata with sata adapters, sata adapters usually have crap voltage regulators 5V -> 3.3V that burn very easily | 19:14 | 
| xes | loosing great power since they are not pwm | 19:15 | 
| xes | so, i would never buy a cheap ssd from aliexpress | 19:15 | 
| KotCzarny | in this case it looked more like buggy firmware issue tho | 19:16 | 
| xes | i would suggest you to follow linux-ide vger mailing list to check how many patches/exceptions/white lists/black lists they add to adjust ssd power management of specific brand/models | 19:17 | 
| xes | ..and i never read about aliexpress nobrand ssd fixes | 19:18 | 
| KotCzarny | i suspect, still, that wouldnt explain total drive disappearance (tried direct in dock and via usb adapter) | 19:18 | 
| xes | if ssd never switches to low power modes, temperature can become very high ..producing "surprises" | 19:19 | 
| KotCzarny | ho hum | 19:20 | 
| KotCzarny | heat related death is plausible | 19:20 | 
| KotCzarny | especially that nonames usually have faked smart and no thermal probe | 19:20 | 
| xes | I would choose a refund.. | 19:21 | 
| KotCzarny | although samsung 830 doesnt have thermal probe neither | 19:21 | 
| xes | and 850/860 and also crucial receive one patch a week | 19:21 | 
| KotCzarny | still, that 830 works for a few years in the same laptop | 19:24 | 
| KotCzarny | which says something about quality | 19:24 | 
| xes | https://marc.info/?l=linux-ide&m=152147370917269&w=2 | 19:24 | 
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| KotCzarny | is that list searchable? | 19:26 | 
| xes | https://marc.info/?l=linux-ide&m=152631196600752&w=2 | 19:26 | 
| xes | can you feel the taste of the breeze? | 19:27 | 
| KotCzarny | :) | 19:27 | 
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| xes | my mechanical drive has also 2 advanced features that with specific sounds notifies me about his status :D | 19:28 | 
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| KotCzarny | hehehe | 19:28 | 
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| xes | zzzzzz/silence... trik trak/silence.. | 19:28 | 
| KotCzarny | grind noise and mad termite attack noise? | 19:29 | 
| xes | he he ;) | 19:29 | 
| xes | but, still running | 19:29 | 
| KotCzarny | some drives also did bell like sounds when head was flying too far ;) | 19:29 | 
| xes | yep!.. it's been years since last time i heard that! | 19:30 | 
| KotCzarny | 4.15.0-rc2+ | 19:32 | 
| KotCzarny | hrm | 19:32 | 
| KotCzarny | i should also update the kernel in that laptop | 19:32 | 
| xes | anyway, mixed technology drives were strange but in the deep there was a good idea | 19:32 | 
| KotCzarny | not necessarily, they probably suffer from both techs bugs | 19:33 | 
| xes | it's hard to say i don't have sufficient failure/success numbers but have a laptop with only 1 ssd... is a pain. Only 1 hdd, is a bit slow | 19:36 | 
| KotCzarny | optical bay adapter for 2nd hdd? | 19:37 | 
| xes | then if there is one.. | 19:37 | 
| KotCzarny | yeah, i've learned today that lenove is still killing thinkpads quality | 19:37 | 
| KotCzarny | only t430 has ultrabay | 19:38 | 
| KotCzarny | otherwise last ones were t500/t400 | 19:38 | 
| xes | mine T410 is still a reference but the x220 is always on | 19:40 | 
| KotCzarny | you can go ghetto-drive-with-velcro-on-the-back-of-lcd-with-usb-adapter way | 19:40 | 
| xes | or msata+hdd ;) ...now i have to run. bbl | 19:41 | 
| KotCzarny | :) | 19:41 | 
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| sicelo | re: https://maemo.org/packages/view/otp/ | 22:55 | 
| sicelo | this actually works fine for HOTP/TOTP ... only trick is to change the key from Base32 to Hex | 22:56 | 
| sicelo | https://github.com/jwhitbeck/otpn900/issues/1 | 22:56 | 
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