IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2018-07-26

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Vooi wanna sell source code bot  scanner coded by me , by btc02:51
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Vooi wanna sell source code bot  scanner coded by me , by btc03:13
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Vooi wanna sell source code bot  scanner coded by me , by btc /j #ssd03:35
buZzVoo: this is not the place for it03:37
Voook sorry03:37
* Oksanaa agrees with trx, easier to find whole housing than just stylus, atm 03:58
* Oksanaa did 3D print Nokia N900 stylus, some time ago - fragile, but works, if I remember correctly. Just keep screen protector on N900.04:05
OksanaaThis one, probably
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Oksanaa+Sigyn is needed on #kicad04:22
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brolin_empeyI exchanged the Samsung UHD video monitor with TN panel for an LG UHD video monitor with IPS panel because TN panels suck.09:14
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KotCzarnypoor wizzup18:50
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KotCzarnyxes, seen the shipping?19:00
KotCzarnythey must be sending it on a pallet19:00
xesKotCzarny: how much is it asking for shipping (on your browser)?19:03
KotCzarnyfrom .it to .pl19:03
KotCzarnyso kinda off hook bat shit crazy19:04
sixwheeledbeastits italy shipping is expensive19:04
xesthey made some mistake :)19:04
KotCzarnyi can ship 1kg package to hongkong for 15eur19:04
KotCzarnywith insurance and delivery confirmation19:05
xesplease don't tell me what you are shipping to HK that weights 1KG19:05
KotCzarnybroken ssd19:06
KotCzarnywhat you had on mind?19:06
xesi really can't imagine anything of that volume that you could write about19:07
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KotCzarnyanyway, never buy noname ssd from aliexpress19:08
KotCzarnyit worked almost exactly 1 month19:08
KotCzarnythen just disappeared from the system19:09
KotCzarnyand i didnt even made it do any hard work19:09
xesdon't worry, early intel ssd behave almost the same way ;)19:09
KotCzarnyjust filled it over 90%, then some garbage collection run started to get hairy, then after one freeze it just disappeared19:10
xesafter some time they swith to ZERO size "mode"19:10
KotCzarnynah, it doesnt even show as a device19:10
DocScrutinizer05bathtub steep way down to sink19:10
KotCzarnyunless you know some trick to do low level reset19:10
xescheck if there is PWM voltage adapter on board..19:11
KotCzarnyi dont want to open it, going to ship it back to get either replacement or refund19:11
KotCzarnybut tell me more in case i have similar situatio in the future19:11
xesssd power management is a mess and could produce high temperatures of power regulators (expecially if very cheap)19:13
xesor if you use msata with sata adapters, sata adapters usually have crap voltage regulators 5V -> 3.3V that burn very easily19:14
xesloosing great power since they are not pwm19:15
xesso, i would never buy a cheap ssd from aliexpress19:15
KotCzarnyin this case it looked more like buggy firmware issue tho19:16
xesi would suggest you to follow linux-ide vger mailing list to check how many patches/exceptions/white lists/black lists they add to adjust ssd power management of specific brand/models19:17
xes..and i never read about aliexpress nobrand ssd fixes19:18
KotCzarnyi suspect, still, that wouldnt explain total drive disappearance (tried direct in dock and via usb adapter)19:18
xesif ssd never switches to low power modes, temperature can become very high ..producing "surprises"19:19
KotCzarnyho hum19:20
KotCzarnyheat related death is plausible19:20
KotCzarnyespecially that nonames usually have faked smart and no thermal probe19:20
xesI would choose a refund..19:21
KotCzarnyalthough samsung 830 doesnt have thermal probe neither19:21
xesand 850/860 and also crucial receive one patch a week19:21
KotCzarnystill, that 830 works for a few years in the same laptop19:24
KotCzarnywhich says something about quality19:24
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KotCzarnyis that list searchable?19:26
xescan you feel the taste of the breeze?19:27
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xesmy mechanical drive has also 2 advanced features that with specific sounds notifies me about his status :D19:28
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xeszzzzzz/silence... trik trak/silence..19:28
KotCzarnygrind noise and mad termite attack noise?19:29
xeshe he ;)19:29
xesbut, still running19:29
KotCzarnysome drives also did bell like sounds when head was flying too far ;)19:29
xesyep!.. it's been years since last time i heard that!19:30
KotCzarnyi should also update the kernel in that laptop19:32
xesanyway, mixed technology drives were strange but in the deep there was a good idea19:32
KotCzarnynot necessarily, they probably suffer from both techs bugs19:33
xesit's hard to say i don't have sufficient failure/success numbers but have a laptop with only 1 ssd... is a pain. Only 1 hdd, is a bit slow19:36
KotCzarnyoptical bay adapter for 2nd hdd?19:37
xesthen if there is one..19:37
KotCzarnyyeah, i've learned today that lenove is still killing thinkpads quality19:37
KotCzarnyonly t430 has ultrabay19:38
KotCzarnyotherwise last ones were t500/t40019:38
xesmine T410 is still a reference but the x220 is always on19:40
KotCzarnyyou can go ghetto-drive-with-velcro-on-the-back-of-lcd-with-usb-adapter way19:40
xesor msata+hdd ;) i have to run. bbl19:41
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sicelothis actually works fine for HOTP/TOTP ... only trick is to change the key from Base32 to Hex22:56
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