| bencoh | KotCzarny: the "official" one is maemo.muarf.org | 00:01 |
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| bencoh | but yeah I know :( | 00:01 |
| KotCzarny | i must fix my sources.list then, hrm | 00:03 |
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| KotCzarny | hmm, is there a way to make linux automatically move swapped pages from higher priority (ie. zswap) to lower priority (sdcard) depending on their age/last used/etc ? | 09:52 |
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| bencoh | KotCzarny: could be with latest kernels | 10:18 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh: where to look for? | 10:18 |
| bencoh | mainline that is, unless it wasn't merged, but I kind recall reading something about that | 10:18 |
| KotCzarny | it would be also useful for my old laptop | 10:18 |
| bencoh | bswap/zram or stuff like that I'd say | 10:19 |
| bencoh | err, not bswap | 10:20 |
| bencoh | zswap | 10:20 |
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| bencoh | yeah I was referring to zswap (different from zram) | 10:22 |
| KotCzarny | well, what i'm looking at is not backing store though of zswap but swap subsystem moving pages from one swap device to another | 10:29 |
| KotCzarny | instead of using lower priority one when higher prio is full | 10:30 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: then I dunno/doubt it, maybe have a look at how they do swap with ssd and whether they implemented that kind of mechanism | 10:32 |
| bencoh | although in your case I think you'd benefit more from zswap | 10:32 |
| Wizzup | maybe you can set up swap on bcache | 10:33 |
| Wizzup | :D | 10:33 |
| bencoh | yeah, bcache :) | 10:34 |
| * KotCzarny googles | 10:35 | |
| bencoh | bcache probably won't help you either here tbh | 10:36 |
| bencoh | well, it might, but ... | 10:36 |
| KotCzarny | yeah, it doesnt free the pages | 10:36 |
| Wizzup | actually it probablh will, if you make a large set of small swap files | 10:36 |
| bencoh | hm? | 10:36 |
| Wizzup | you said you wanted to swap pages from one device to another | 10:36 |
| Wizzup | bcache will do that based on some LRU I hope | 10:37 |
| KotCzarny | hmm | 10:37 |
| Wizzup | alt. maybe dm-cache? not sure if it satisfies your needs | 10:37 |
| KotCzarny | i'm not seeing bcache into situation with swap in zram | 10:37 |
| Wizzup | say you have /dev/fast-disk and /dev/fast-slow-disk, you could have bcache use both and them have swap on top of that? | 10:39 |
| Wizzup | bbiab | 10:40 |
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| KotCzarny | 2 swaps: 1 in zram and 1 in mmcblk | 10:41 |
| KotCzarny | ideally pages should be moved out of zram when unused for long | 10:42 |
| KotCzarny | onto mmcblk one | 10:42 |
| KotCzarny | that way memleaks would be stored in slow device and more ram available for paging | 10:43 |
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| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: ping | 18:39 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: do you know what "ccc", "npc" and "hwc" certificates are used for? | 18:40 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: ^^^ | 18:43 |
| freemangordon | seems you know a bit about that | 18:43 |
| KotCzarny | i recall that cert question | 18:43 |
| KotCzarny | have you checked the channel logs? | 18:43 |
| freemangordon | yes | 18:44 |
| freemangordon | https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2016-12-17.log.html#t2016-12-17T17:59:15 | 18:44 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: but still, I have no idea what are those used for | 18:45 |
| KotCzarny | nah, i'm just quite good with google (sometimes) | 18:45 |
| freemangordon | hmm http://mobilegsm.16mb.com/reb_bb5_cpu.html | 18:46 |
| KotCzarny | seems you have that problem since at least 2014 | 18:46 |
| freemangordon | and "ccc" seems to be Common Configuration Certificate | 18:46 |
| KotCzarny | https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/%23maemo-ssu.2013-10-13.log.html#t2013-10-13T15:38:43 | 18:47 |
| KotCzarny | or even 2013 | 18:47 |
| KotCzarny | certificate npc appears to contain GSM IMEI, bluetooth MAC and wlan MAC | 18:48 |
| bencoh | :) | 18:48 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: ^^^ | 18:49 |
| KotCzarny | seems jonwil might be most knowledgeable | 18:49 |
| KotCzarny | see the last link | 18:49 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: but what kind if cert is that, containg device specific data?!? | 18:49 |
| KotCzarny | similar to gpg signed email? | 18:50 |
| KotCzarny | to know it is legit | 18:50 |
| freemangordon | hmm, seems I've asked the same question back in 2013 :D | 18:50 |
| bencoh | yeah :D | 18:51 |
| freemangordon | ok, still, the coversation was useful | 18:51 |
| bencoh | means you're pretty consistent | 18:51 |
| KotCzarny | you should take notes | 18:52 |
| freemangordon | Am I not? :) | 18:52 |
| KotCzarny | and put on some wiki | 18:52 |
| KotCzarny | :> | 18:52 |
| freemangordon | no, I'll just finish REing libsysinfo | 18:52 |
| bencoh | for some people, REing is just easier that writing documentation ;) | 18:53 |
| bencoh | (I'm not one of them unfortunately) | 18:53 |
| KotCzarny | yeah, coding > writing docs | 18:54 |
| KotCzarny | although both are important | 18:54 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, there is something called libcal | 18:55 |
| KotCzarny | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4874 | 18:56 |
| KotCzarny | and apparently its open sourced | 18:57 |
| Wizzup | pretty sure that's already packaged and built even on leste | 18:58 |
| KotCzarny | and interesting bits moved to closed libsysinfo, lol | 18:58 |
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| freemangordon | KotCzarny: yes, and this is what I am REing ATM | 19:06 |
| KotCzarny | figured | 19:06 |
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| freemangordon | but I'll stop, as we'll try to live without it | 19:06 |
| KotCzarny | try asking jonwil | 19:07 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: why not join #maemo-leste? not interested in it? | 19:07 |
| freemangordon | sure will do | 19:07 |
| KotCzarny | i dont have autorejoin set | 19:07 |
| freemangordon | ah | 19:07 |
| freemangordon | then set it :p | 19:07 |
| KotCzarny | so i have to rejoin manually after i reboot my box | 19:07 |
| KotCzarny | sometimes i forgot channel or two | 19:08 |
| freemangordon | it is just that it's better to keep info in one place and also more people to read it | 19:08 |
| freemangordon | to remind me in few years :D | 19:08 |
| bencoh | haha | 19:08 |
| bencoh | hmm, I never heard of Sidekick 4g before | 19:24 |
| bencoh | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_Hiptop#T-Mobile_Sidekick_4G_(Android/Samsung) | 19:24 |
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