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| pirla | hello everyone | 18:24 |
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| pirla | just got a nokia n900 to try, how can I install debian (with no maemo) on it? | 18:24 |
| KotCzarny | at this point you might as well go for maemo-leste | 18:25 |
| pirla | what's that? | 18:25 |
| KotCzarny | devuan for n900 | 18:25 |
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| pirla | yes, how can i install it? | 18:25 |
| KotCzarny | recent kernel etc, obviously not fully functional as a phone/pda yet | 18:26 |
| KotCzarny | there was an img floating | 18:26 |
| KotCzarny | https://leste.maemo.org/Nokia_N900 | 18:27 |
| pirla | thx, checking out | 18:27 |
| pirla | I see I need flasher, which isn't around from some time | 18:30 |
| KotCzarny | it is | 18:30 |
| KotCzarny | either 0xffff and flasher-3.5 is freely available | 18:30 |
| pirla | where? | 18:32 |
| KotCzarny | 0xffff is open source project | 18:32 |
| KotCzarny | and old nokia binary is probably somewhere around: | 18:32 |
| KotCzarny | ~flasher | 18:32 |
| infobot | refer ~flashing; http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz; list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ | 18:32 |
| pirla | Thanks again, I downloaded it | 18:37 |
| pirla | now, I see I have to type a dd command, what's the correct syntax? | 18:38 |
| KotCzarny | read the page i've linked | 18:38 |
| KotCzarny | there are descriptions/instructions | 18:38 |
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| pirla | I can't find instructions | 18:39 |
| Juesto | man dd | 18:39 |
| KotCzarny | ahm | 18:39 |
| KotCzarny | ok | 18:39 |
| KotCzarny | xz -dc file.img.xz | dd bs=1M >/dev/yourmmcdevice | 18:40 |
| pirla | I tried dd maemo-whatever /path to sd/ | 18:40 |
| KotCzarny | no, path to sd is filesystem | 18:41 |
| KotCzarny | you need to write to block device | 18:41 |
| pirla | sorry, can't understand | 18:41 |
| Juesto | ok, you seem to need a gnu/linux lessons before | 18:41 |
| pirla | oh I see | 18:41 |
| KotCzarny | example, /dev/sdj might be block device | 18:41 |
| pirla | I need to put there the /dev | 18:42 |
| Juesto | you need to know what's your target file | 18:42 |
| KotCzarny | but if you mount /dev/sdj4 /some/path it will mount filesystem from 4th partition of sdj at given path | 18:42 |
| Juesto | dd needs if= and of= | 18:42 |
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| KotCzarny | and since you are new to this, better watch out, you can wipe some other drive if you dont know what you are doing | 18:42 |
| KotCzarny | /dev/sdj* above was obviously some random example | 18:43 |
| KotCzarny | you have to know what you are going to overwrite before you do it | 18:43 |
| KotCzarny | juesto: wrong | 18:44 |
| Juesto | And i suggest going with a computer and such, n900 gui is kind of best for the device especially when you dont know about technical stuff | 18:44 |
| Juesto | KotCzarny: Depends on dd version | 18:44 |
| pirla | yes, I know thanks. I just can't really understand how dd works | 18:44 |
| KotCzarny | no. any version. | 18:44 |
| Juesto | :/ | 18:44 |
| Juesto | again, see man dd | 18:45 |
| KotCzarny | in the line i've written above specifying if= would be wrong | 18:45 |
| KotCzarny | unless you would use if=/dev/stdin | 18:45 |
| Juesto | ah ok | 18:47 |
| Juesto | but of= is correct :p | 18:47 |
| KotCzarny | its optional | 18:47 |
| Juesto | hm | 18:47 |
| Juesto | again, depends on version, sort of | 18:48 |
| KotCzarny | again, wrong | 18:48 |
| Juesto | it doesnt really accept just "filename" | 18:48 |
| KotCzarny | in this example it writes to /dev/stdout which is redirected to /dev/yourmmcdevice | 18:48 |
| Juesto | i see, thanks | 18:49 |
| pirla | So, I just dd-ed the img on the sd | 18:51 |
| pirla | now what? | 18:56 |
| KotCzarny | see the forum link from that page | 18:56 |
| KotCzarny | dd the image to an sd card. Then boot from the sd card using either 0xFFFF/flasher-3.5 or u-boot/bootmenu: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613 | 18:56 |
| KotCzarny | or read how to boot using flasher booting mode | 18:57 |
| pirla | how do I boot from sd? do I need to do this on phone or on pc? | 18:57 |
| KotCzarny | depends, do you have uboot/bootmenu currently? | 18:58 |
| KotCzarny | if not, i guess you can just take kernel+ramdisk and boot with flasher in one-time mode | 18:58 |
| pirla | no, but I saw there's another bootloader in | 18:58 |
| pirla | give me just 2 minutes | 18:58 |
| KotCzarny | you will also need proper linux cmdline i guess | 18:58 |
| pirla | yes, I'm on stretch | 18:58 |
| pirla | I have nitdroid bootloader | 19:00 |
| KotCzarny | i guess you would have to read how to add another kernel+ramdisk+params combo to it | 19:00 |
| pirla | really? I just want Debian, nothing more | 19:01 |
| KotCzarny | then if you have pc available, just boot it via flasher | 19:01 |
| pirla | how? | 19:01 |
| Juesto | it says in the instructions.... | 19:02 |
| pirla | if I try to launch flasher I get a non-existent file/folder error | 19:02 |
| KotCzarny | you need proper params, running things blindly wouldnt help | 19:02 |
| pirla | do I really need a phd to run debian on my phone? | 19:03 |
| KotCzarny | no, but you should know what you are doing | 19:03 |
| pirla | almost, 50-50 | 19:03 |
| Juesto | 50-50 is not enough | 19:04 |
| pirla | I just can't understand how to "boot from flasher" | 19:04 |
| Juesto | Read | 19:04 |
| KotCzarny | https://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/rescueOS-1.2/documentation.txt | 19:04 |
| KotCzarny | it's an example from rescueos | 19:04 |
| KotCzarny | you can see params there, which will be different in your case | 19:05 |
| Juesto | is there a official documentation or manpage for it? | 19:05 |
| KotCzarny | root will be probably /dev/mmcblk0 or something | 19:05 |
| KotCzarny | and kernel/ramdisk filenames you have to extract to your pc from that img or tar | 19:05 |
| KotCzarny | s/filenames/files | 19:06 |
| pirla | I can't understand what are you saying | 19:08 |
| pirla | what does "boot from flasher" mean? | 19:08 |
| pirla | I have to connect my phone to pc? | 19:08 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 19:08 |
| pirla | ok | 19:08 |
| pirla | Do I need to press u? | 19:09 |
| KotCzarny | i suspect the usual flasher instruction applies. although important change is adding -b param to boot instead of flashing | 19:09 |
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| pirla | excuse me, why can't I execute flasher? it exits with a "non existent file/folder" error | 19:20 |
| KotCzarny | paste the error message | 19:20 |
| pirla | root@DESKTOP-K6M1K7O:~/Scaricati/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2# ./flasher-3.5 --help bash: ./flasher-3.5: File o directory non esistente | 19:20 |
| Juesto | pirla: make sure you're writing the correct commandline | 19:20 |
| Juesto | Because the file is not in there | 19:21 |
| KotCzarny | maybe you need 32bit compatibility libs | 19:21 |
| Juesto | if its there then you need to run bash ./flasher-3.5 | 19:21 |
| pirla | yes, you're right | 19:21 |
| pirla | I need 32 bit lib | 19:21 |
| Juesto | did you try chmod +x to the file? | 19:21 |
| pirla | yes | 19:21 |
| Juesto | still doesnt run? | 19:21 |
| Juesto | hm | 19:21 |
| pirla | I'm on a 64 bit Debian Stretch | 19:22 |
| KotCzarny | you will probably have to install libusb0-32bit or something | 19:22 |
| pirla | better: I did an apt-get install 0xffff | 19:23 |
| KotCzarny | that should be better option, yes | 19:23 |
| pirla | Ok, so when running I get a nothing to do | 19:24 |
| KotCzarny | params? | 19:24 |
| pirla | I'm checking what could I need from the -help | 19:25 |
| pirla | Summary: I have the phone in upload mode, I also have the usb icon on the topright | 19:38 |
| pirla | now, what should I type in order to flash my image? | 19:39 |
| pirla | I have leste flashed to the sd | 19:39 |
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| KotCzarny | did you extract kernel, ramdisk from the sdcard? | 19:40 |
| pirla | Don't know, I did a dd | 19:40 |
| KotCzarny | yes, to write sdcard, but to boot from pc you should copy them out | 19:40 |
| pirla | pc? | 19:40 |
| KotCzarny | where do you run the flasher? | 19:42 |
| pirla | on pc | 19:42 |
| pirla | ok, so I'm redownloading the image | 19:43 |
| KotCzarny | what for? | 19:43 |
| KotCzarny | just eject the card and put into pc | 19:43 |
| pirla | I erased it because I didn't knew it was required again | 19:43 |
| pirla | ok, getting everything from sd | 19:44 |
| pirla | uimage and zimage | 19:46 |
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| pirla | Ok, now I have a folder named debian in my home, I have to launch 0xffff | 19:53 |
| pirla | what should I type? | 19:53 |
| pirla | I copyed everything from sd | 19:53 |
| pirla | Here's the output of -I: | 19:58 |
| pirla | root@DESKTOP-K6M1K7O:~/debian# 0xFFFF -I 0xFFFF v0.7 // Open Free Fiasco Firmware Flasher Not a local device Waiting for USB device... Found USB device: SU-18/RX-44/RX-48/RX-51/RM-680/RM-696 (0x421:0x105) in NOLO mode USB device product string: Nokia N900 (Update mode) USB device serial number string: MUM415144 Detected USB device: RX-51 Initializing NOLO... Device: RX-51 HW revision: 2101 NOLO version: 1.4.14 Kernel v | 19:59 |
| pirla | Initfs version: (not detected) Software release version: RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_MR0 Content eMMC version: RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA Root device: flash USB host mode: disabled R&D mode: disabled | 20:00 |
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| pirla | please | 20:07 |
| pirla | anyone? | 20:08 |
| KotCzarny | https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1540874&postcount=7 | 20:10 |
| KotCzarny | maybe this one | 20:10 |
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| pirla | Yes, thanks! Works | 20:13 |
| pirla | Wow! | 20:13 |
| pirla | Can't wait to give this a ride. Thank you everyone. | 20:13 |
| pirla | bye | 20:13 |
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| pirla | Hello everyone | 21:44 |
| pirla | Now what? | 21:45 |
| pirla | I have a leste system running on my N900 Nokia | 21:45 |
| pirla | I only have settings, x terminal and tana_ap_user | 21:46 |
| pirla | as apps | 21:46 |
| KotCzarny | you have terminal, you have working x, what do you need more? | 21:47 |
| pirla | apps? | 21:47 |
| KotCzarny | apt-get install ? | 21:48 |
| pirla | Yes, but I don't have networking wifi | 21:48 |
| KotCzarny | wpa_supplicant + dhclient/dhcpcd ? | 21:49 |
| pirla | Yes, but with which network? | 21:50 |
| pirla | I can't physically connect my phone to wifi | 21:50 |
| KotCzarny | are you really asking me what wireless ssid you have? | 21:50 |
| pirla | no | 21:51 |
| pirla | my net hw is not working on my phone | 21:51 |
| KotCzarny | you mean you dont have 2.4ghz or something else is the problem? | 21:51 |
| pirla | it's like the driver is missing | 21:52 |
| KotCzarny | wireless should work | 21:53 |
| pirla | tried issuing wpa-supplicant and wpa_supplicant, both don't exist | 21:55 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, maybe it's added later, image is from april | 21:55 |
| KotCzarny | wizzup: ping | 21:56 |
| pirla | But is it ok I just have settings and terminal, with nothing else? | 21:56 |
| KotCzarny | yeah, it's pre-alpha state | 21:56 |
| pirla | Nevermind, sudo was needed. Know from #maemo-leste | 21:57 |
| pirla | I'm gonna be there now | 21:57 |
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| Wizzup | KotCzarny: pong | 22:00 |
| Wizzup | I replied | 22:00 |
| KotCzarny | yeah, thanks for that | 22:00 |
| Wizzup | he quit though | 22:01 |
| KotCzarny | new kids dont know how to use irc | 22:04 |
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| sicelo | anniversary. i bought my N900 on this day in 2011 :) | 23:08 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 23:11 |
| KotCzarny | i dont remember exact date of mine | 23:11 |
| sicelo | i had lusted after if for months | 23:13 |
| sicelo | s/if/it/ | 23:14 |
| infobot | sicelo meant: i had lusted after it for months | 23:14 |
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| KotCzarny | bencoh: hmm, mirrors.muarf.org (78.192.65.63) seems to be down | 23:40 |
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| Juesto | Wizzup: wow, how mean. he was here before as you can see.... | 23:42 |
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