IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2018-03-06

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* Oksanaa installed Facebook Services, sharing-service-facebook appears to work, while the widget gives "Invalid email/password combination" even though I am sure I have provided them correctly, without misprints06:53
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* Oksanaa is annoyed with modern communications: Discord on one side, Slack and Facebook on another... At least, it's possible to use public BitlBee gateway for Discord. Slack's IRC gateway is disabled. And Facebook doesn't have an IRC gateway, does it?.. Hmm, here is the thought: connect to Facebook via06:55
VajbOksanaa: some said that it is because of sms identification, but i never got it to connect when i tried. Always that same error.06:55
Vajbfavebook messaging was kind of convenient when they had their xmms working06:56
* Oksanaa BitlBee IRC gateway.06:56
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OksanaaThey used to have XMPP gateway?.. Slack's XMPP gateway is said to be worse than Slack's IRC gateway, so if anything, I am more inclined to get Slack Workspace Owner to enable IRC gateway.07:01
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* Oksanaa added Facebook account to BitlBee, now should make sense of groupchats... I don't think we have one already, we just have one team member who asked me to add him on Facebook. I could try to make a group chat consisting of two users: me and him. And wait for third team member to respond to emails,07:03
* Oksanaa and somehow get fourth team member's email.07:03
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brolin_empeyOksanaa: There is a libpurple plug-in for Facebook Chat/Messenger.10:40
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DocScrutinizer05Wizzup: seems TI doesn't even publish the OMAP5 TRMs?10:44
DocScrutinizer05or I failed to spot them in that "mess"10:44
DocScrutinizer05I only found a http://www.ti.com/general/docs/lit/getliterature.tsp?genericPartNumber=AM5728&fileType=pdf elecmech TRM, and this collection http://www.ti.com/product/AM5728/technicaldocuments - no 5000p TRM though. Do I miss something here?10:47
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DocScrutinizer05iMX.8 also seems to have no TRMs (yet?)10:48
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Vajbbrolin_empey: last i tried that facebook plugin didn't work11:19
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DocScrutinizer05why the fsck doesn't http://www.ti.com/product/AM5728/description load on my FF?11:39
DocScrutinizer05http://www.ti.com/product/AM5728/toolssoftware does11:39
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siceloOksanaa: sharing widget hasn't worked for a while, and prolly won't ever, since Facebook blocked the devs' accounts[6~13:15
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bencohDocScrutinizer05: TI dropped most of the omap material17:10
DocScrutinizer05suckers17:10
bencohapart from a few chips17:10
bencohdefinitely yeah17:10
bencohsilly move17:10
bencohas for imx8, I don't think RM are public yet17:10
DocScrutinizer05for 5 they are, for 8 not17:11
DocScrutinizer05617:11
bencohmight be available for download if you have an account though17:11
bencohyeah, 6/7 have been public for a long time now17:11
DocScrutinizer05yep17:11
bencoh8 is barely released17:11
DocScrutinizer05a massive >5k pages17:11
DocScrutinizer05usual size for a TRM17:11
DocScrutinizer05yeah, "PRERELEASE"17:12
DocScrutinizer05or PREPRODUCTION or somesuch17:12
DocScrutinizer05bencoh: i'm searching for the best SoC right now17:12
DocScrutinizer05omly selection restriction: as Open as possible17:13
bencohDocScrutinizer05: depends on the application17:13
DocScrutinizer05do I guess that rules out all snapdragon stuff right away17:13
DocScrutinizer05"our" application17:13
DocScrutinizer05:-)17:13
bencohDocScrutinizer05: I'd love to test imx8x but it's not released yet17:13
bencohah, then ... imx8m/x I'd say17:14
DocScrutinizer05l, what I thought17:14
DocScrutinizer05k17:14
DocScrutinizer05a pity RISC-V has no embedded chips at all yet17:14
bencohas far as I can tell fsl is the only "open-friendly" chip vendor for phone app17:14
DocScrutinizer05fsl?17:15
DocScrutinizer05oh iMX?17:15
DocScrutinizer05imm nope, NXP makes iMX, no?17:16
DocScrutinizer05so what/who is fsl?17:16
DocScrutinizer05"PREPRODUCTION" -> https://www.nxp.com/products/processors-and-microcontrollers/applications-processors/i.mx-applications-processors/i.mx-8-processors/i.mx-8-family-arm-cortex-a53-cortex-a72-virtualization-vision-3d-graphics-4k-video:i.MX817:17
DocScrutinizer05still wondering about that allwinner stuff17:19
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TheKitDocScrutinizer05, is the main problem with AllWinner that it would require external modem?17:26
DocScrutinizer05err? I think that's a mandatory feature rather than a problem17:27
KotCzarnyallwinner is good only because of the community17:28
DocScrutinizer05http://neo900.org/stuff/cccamp15/ccc2015talk/talk.pdf#1617:29
KotCzarnythough they've hired some guy to write docs for then too17:29
KotCzarny*them17:29
KotCzarnyalso, being cheapest of them all, their chip designs arent top of the bunch in regards of power and performance17:32
KotCzarnydoc, planning to do neowinner900 ? :>17:33
KotCzarnyalso, socs are sold for ~3-10usd17:34
KotCzarnythough they are quite big and porbably wouldnt fit17:36
KotCzarnynot to mention the heat17:36
TheKitthere are also Rockchip efforts recently17:36
TheKitbut it's for tablets/TV sticks17:36
KotCzarnyhow is tablet different to phone?17:37
TheKitsize/power consumption/lack of mobile connectivity17:37
KotCzarnyplenty of 3g/4g enabled tablets17:37
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TheKitsure, but most of them are MediaTek/Qualcomm-based now17:38
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KotCzarnyn800 makes great irc console17:57
* KotCzarny purrs17:57
KotCzarnyaterm + xvkbd ftw17:58
KotCzarnywhy didnt i thought of it earler17:59
KotCzarnyooh i even have firefox here18:01
KotCzarnyfirefox 3.6.5pre18:04
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brolin_empeyVajb: The Facebook Chat/Messenger plug-in works with Pidgin but I have not tried using said plug-in on a Nokia computer.  I stopped using a Nokia computer in 2014.18:24
siceloit works with N900. i can confirm18:25
brolin_empeyTheKit: KotCzarny: Tablet computers also usually seem to lack cellular telephony + SMS/MMS capability.  The Asus FonePad is an exception at least for cellular calling.18:28
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KotCzarnyi really like n800's mobility factor18:44
KotCzarnyand reaistive screen18:44
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KotCzarnychatting on irc, edited fw on my router to allow renote, controlling oscp playing through stereo, browsing imgur. all on n80019:13
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KotCzarnyim in love again19:13
KotCzarnybtw. all of the above done lounging in the armchair19:14
KotCzarnyand to think it has only 128m of mem19:17
KotCzarnysidecam has ultrash*tty quality ;)19:18
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sicelodid 810 have cam?19:29
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KotCzarnyn800 had19:30
KotCzarnyextendable from from body, rotatable, poor quality19:32
siceloyes i know about about the one on n800. let me check what the situation was on N810, although i'd guess it also had19:32
KotCzarnyit mightve had frontcam19:34
siceloyes N810 also had, but non-rotating. it was in the front only19:34
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KotCzarnyno bugs, no issues20:48
KotCzarnyerm, wrong chan20:48
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sicelosounds like lots of bugs and issues then :p20:54
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Vajbsicelo: did you install it from repos or made your own package?21:08
Vajb^about pidgin facebook21:10
siceloit's on tmo somewhere21:13
siceloVajb: https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=10012221:17
siceloah yes, so it's in repos .. -devel21:17
Vajbok thx. Seems to have some dependency issue here21:22
Vajbhmm actually no. It starts to install and then fails21:23
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Vajbbut i have solution for the guy in the forum. Just tell him to add that imagefolder path to tracker. I did that with telegram and it works well.21:38
sicelowhy you don't post yourself? :)21:40
Vajbcan't recall my password right now :D21:42
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siceloposted21:46
Vajbthx21:51
Vajbdpkg: error processing /home/user/MyDocs/.apt-archive-cache/purple-facebook_0.9.5-9ff9acf9fa14-0maemo1_armel.deb (--unpack):21:55
Vajb trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/purple-2/libfacebook.so', which is also in package pidgin-facebookchat21:55
Vajbthat seems to be my problem21:55
Vajbshould i delete or rename the file and see what happens?21:56
KotCzarnydiversion21:56
KotCzarnyyou can try forcing21:57
KotCzarny--force-all etc21:57
Vajbdoes ham do that?21:57
KotCzarnyunlikely. apt21:57
Vajbwell worth a shot21:58
sicelowhere did the first one come from?22:00
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Vajbdon't know22:01
Vajbdidn't show up in ham remove list22:01
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Vajbgoing to purge it22:02
Vajbthat did the trick22:03
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Vajbok, it seems to work \o/22:17
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sicelo:)22:17
Vajbthx for the hint22:18
Vajbmaybe i should keep one on TMO always22:18
siceloyw22:18
Vajbone eye22:18
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Vajbstartup seems to be bit heavy22:19
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siceloyou have many friends?22:21
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Vajbless than 200 hundreds22:22
Vajbhave u tried any groups yet?22:22
siceloi don't think it does groups22:22
Vajbi'll report back when some of groups has something happening22:25
sicelothey don't work :)22:26
sicelounless you mean other types of groups22:26
Vajbi guess we speak of same thing22:28
sicelothen no22:28
sicelothis is only for chat/instant messaging22:28
Vajbyup. I meant chat with many users22:29
sicelook. i don't do that :)22:30
sicelodo report back22:30
Vajbsure thing22:31
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