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| HtheB | hey Wizzup | 12:37 |
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| HtheB | Got some time to help me? Ping me when you're there :) | 12:38 |
| Wizzup | hey, gimme just a few mins | 12:38 |
| HtheB | thanks! | 12:38 |
| Wizzup | sup | 12:41 |
| HtheB | trying out the images on my android device using qemu | 12:42 |
| HtheB | would love to get some Maemo love into my Android | 12:42 |
| HtheB | I've been using the Limbo emulator | 12:43 |
| HtheB | but there are so many options to choose from, I couldn't get it to work :( | 12:43 |
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| HtheB | Running Maemo on all devices, that's the dream! | 12:44 |
| KotCzarny | even maemo powered automatic toilet? | 12:45 |
| HtheB | https://m.popkey.co/d4a1e0/gaqzY.gif | 12:45 |
| Wizzup | HtheB: do you have an arm or amd64 android device | 12:46 |
| HtheB | arm64 | 12:46 |
| Wizzup | ok, so we don't have any arm64 virtual machine images yet - since that is also more tricky on arm | 12:46 |
| HtheB | ??? | 12:46 |
| HtheB | Im not going to flash the image on the phone | 12:47 |
| Wizzup | I was assuming you'd want to use a native arch, for virtualisation speed. | 12:47 |
| HtheB | It's getting emulated | 12:47 |
| HtheB | using Limbo | 12:47 |
| Wizzup | Right, but if you 'emulate' arm on arm64 in qemu, it's much faster. | 12:47 |
| Wizzup | You can also try to boot the amd64 image, if you prefer that. | 12:47 |
| Wizzup | Assuming Limbo can do KVM anyway | 12:47 |
| HtheB | yeah I downloaded the amd64 qcow2 | 12:47 |
| Wizzup | ok | 12:47 |
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| HtheB | ok, loding linux 4.9.0-5-amd64 | 12:49 |
| HtheB | Loading initial ramdisk ... | 12:49 |
| Wizzup | what exactly did you need help with btw? | 12:49 |
| HtheB | to get this thing alive | 12:50 |
| HtheB | :D | 12:50 |
| Wizzup | :) | 12:52 |
| HtheB | but I think it's booting | 12:52 |
| Wizzup | it'll be slow, especially since the opengl is also done on the cpu | 12:52 |
| HtheB | activating swap | 12:53 |
| HtheB | done | 12:53 |
| HtheB | aaaaaaand...... | 12:56 |
| HtheB | it tried to start the x server | 13:01 |
| HtheB | still black screen through | 13:01 |
| Wizzup | It'll not be usable speed wise | 13:01 |
| Wizzup | give it some time though ;) | 13:01 |
| HtheB | Maemo ! | 13:03 |
| HtheB | It actually booted ! | 13:04 |
| HtheB | I missed that default splash wallpaper :P | 13:04 |
| Wizzup | ;-) | 13:04 |
| HtheB | I wish it was in usable state :( | 13:05 |
| Wizzup | well, you're emulating intel on arm. | 13:06 |
| Wizzup | if there was a usable arm image that you could use with limbo in kvm, it'd be better. | 13:06 |
| Wizzup | that's what I said before | 13:06 |
| HtheB | ah | 13:06 |
| HtheB | ok now i get it | 13:06 |
| HtheB | armel qcow2? | 13:07 |
| Wizzup | there is none yet. that's what I said | 13:08 |
| HtheB | yeah | 13:08 |
| Wizzup | also X is more difficult in such a scenario, I'd have to try it on my own arm64 hardware | 13:08 |
| Wizzup | it's kind of a low priority though ;) | 13:08 |
| HtheB | what about regular arm | 13:09 |
| Wizzup | same | 13:09 |
| HtheB | ok :( | 13:10 |
| HtheB | guess that's waiting for an arm image then | 13:11 |
| Wizzup | well, yeah, but your usecase very esoteric :P | 13:11 |
| Wizzup | still, you can post a screenie of it working on the thread? :p | 13:12 |
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| Halftux | when I am installing (upgrade) libgtk2.0-0 (2.14.7-1maemo34+0cssu2+thumb0) in the sdk it complains about a missing path /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.14.0/immodules when I look on my device which is on cssu-testing and has same version but non-thumb I dont have that folder. Is this normal? I wanted to copy this folder to the sdk | 17:31 |
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| Halftux | ehmm sorry I mean libgtk2.0-bin | 17:36 |
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| sicelo | i have a communication app on my Android phone and wish to hopefully figure out how its protocol works (www.2go.im ... yes it sucks, but a few friends use it). I think the J2ME apps don't use HTTPS, but the android one does. So I am wondering if mitm-proxy can help me see traffic the app transmits? or worthless? | 19:03 |
| sicelo | or mitm-proxy works best for websites, etc.? | 19:03 |
| sicelo | or i should find a way to do this through wireshark maybe :-/ | 19:06 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | wireshark you would have to hub out your ap? | 19:23 |
| sicelo | what does 'hub' out mean? | 19:27 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | i am no expert on the matter but to use wireshark to monitor a device on a network you need the traffic to be send to every point. this is done by hubbing out. | 19:46 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Where a switch routes traffic to the correct place a hub repeats traffic to every device so you can sniff it. | 19:47 |
| sicelo | i get you now | 19:49 |
| sicelo | well i can make the laptop a wifi hotspot and have the phone connect via it | 19:49 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Unless you can connect the device direct to the wireshark machine so you can mitm | 19:49 |
| sixwheeledbeast | yep | 19:50 |
| sicelo | i got an app called Packet Sniffer for the android for now ... it's able to show some cleartext traffic. looks like i don't need to worry too much about the https traffic. | 19:52 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | I am surprised to see a whatapp like alternative like that. | 20:44 |
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| sicelo | heh. it's been there for many years. anyway it is most definitely not good by modern standards, especially since there's no encryption | 21:17 |
| sicelo | and it's use has declined. now only the few still stuck on feature phones use it | 21:18 |
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