| freemangordon | Juesto: like... hildon experience :) | 00:06 |
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| Juesto | yeah, hildon-desktop | 00:06 |
| Juesto | looking forward to try it ;p | 00:07 |
| enyc | DocScrutinizer05 thankyou for the bootmenu explanation =) | 00:31 |
| enyc | DocScrutinizer05: how does bootmenu 'detect' extra bootable options on sd-card partitions etc.? | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you place file snippeds into /etc/bootmeny or somesuch | 00:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when you install e.g. the powerkernel uBoot image, it installs the needed file into that bootmenu dir, then runs this wizard taht scans all files in the dir, collects the uBoot-related ones and assembles a uBoot.xfg or whatever the name | 00:34 |
| Maxdamantus | .scr probably | 00:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the wizard itself prolly supposed to come with uBoot | 00:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | check the dependencies, it will show up in there I guess | 00:36 |
| Maxdamantus | Probably not. The menu in u-boot was written by Pali. | 00:36 |
| Maxdamantus | Not sure if people use it on other devices. | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or check the postinstall script of powerkernel image, it calls the wizard, while the file list of that same pkg should list the file snippet | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | makes sense? | 00:39 |
| enyc | DocScrutinizer05: the expectancy of extra entries in /etc/bootmenu and so on, compliced to uboot all completely makes sense, no surpises | 00:54 |
| enyc | DocScrutinizer05: i was wondering if there might be some sort of "magic filename on any partition" sort of approch, apparently not ... | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | afaik not | 00:54 |
| Juesto | if i was to get a n900, what i should do first? | 00:55 |
| Juesto | is it worth to have a n900 nowadays? | 00:55 |
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| pkill9 | what do you want out of it Juesto? | 01:07 |
| Juesto | I am not sure | 01:07 |
| Juesto | experiment with it | 01:07 |
| pkill9 | not sure, the stock kernel has required closed source blobs and is really outdated :/ | 01:08 |
| Juesto | i think it would be a great experience | 01:08 |
| Juesto | to use such phone | 01:09 |
| Juesto | might be wrong | 01:09 |
| Maxdamantus | If you want a phone that's relatively similar to a typical desktop Linux system, maybe. | 01:10 |
| Juesto | yeah could be | 01:11 |
| Juesto | would you compare maemo to mac? | 01:11 |
| pkill9 | i hope Wizzup's project with Devuan will be viable | 01:12 |
| Juesto | yes it will | 01:12 |
| Juesto | a few more weeks he said | 01:12 |
| pkill9 | apparently they got Hildon + powervr (the GPU) working on Devuan | 01:13 |
| Juesto | i kind of wish to try the original first | 01:13 |
| Juesto | i mean | 01:13 |
| Juesto | it is still usable | 01:13 |
| pkill9 | yeah it is | 01:13 |
| Juesto | i do not mind non-foss | 01:13 |
| Maxdamantus | Depends how you use the Mac. | 01:13 |
| Juesto | mac suits my power user style because its mostly gui, easy to use | 01:14 |
| Juesto | not as problematic as linux | 01:14 |
| Juesto | and it still unix | 01:14 |
| Maxdamantus | If you use macOS or a Linux-based system in such a way that the fact that there's a unix-like system underneath matters, they could be comparable. | 01:14 |
| Juesto | yes, the proprietary and foss mix | 01:17 |
| Wizzup | hildon-desktop works with powervr now | 01:23 |
| Wizzup | (since 30 minutes) | 01:23 |
| Wizzup | pkill9: p.s. it's not just my project | 01:23 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon and parazyd are doing a lot of the heavy liften | 01:23 |
| Wizzup | lifting | 01:23 |
| Wizzup | hopefully soon more people :) | 01:23 |
| pkill9 | ah ok, and great news :) | 01:23 |
| Wizzup | it's a bit jerky, but quite good | 01:24 |
| parazyd | \o/ | 01:24 |
| pkill9 | do you have a project page? | 01:24 |
| Wizzup | yes, but it's not ready yet :P | 01:24 |
| pkill9 | ok | 01:24 |
| Wizzup | https://maemo-leste.github.io/ | 01:24 |
| Wizzup | in a day or two there will be more text | 01:24 |
| pkill9 | i'd like to help, though I'm not sure what needs doing and I doubt I could help much with the heavy lifting | 01:25 |
| Juesto | Wizzup: what is parazyd doing? | 01:25 |
| parazyd | https://pub.parazyd.cf/dev/random/magic.gif | 01:25 |
| Juesto | seriously asking | 01:26 |
| Wizzup | we'll blog about it | 01:26 |
| Juesto | where | 01:26 |
| Wizzup | he's doing devuan stuff, ci, autobuilds and more | 01:26 |
| Juesto | ah i see | 01:26 |
| Juesto | automation | 01:26 |
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| Juesto | devuan ascii is the next version name? | 01:27 |
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| Juesto | or testing | 01:27 |
| Juesto | ? | 01:27 |
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| parazyd | Juesto: devuan ascii is the next stable. coming soon | 01:28 |
| Juesto | alright | 01:28 |
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| parazyd | we're finalizing the installer now and that should make it ready | 01:28 |
| Wizzup | Juesto: it's basically debian stretch | 01:28 |
| Juesto | alright | 01:28 |
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| Wizzup | I mean | 01:29 |
| Wizzup | it's more | 01:29 |
| Juesto | does this project guarantee and ensure the original experience/spirit of maemo? | 01:29 |
| Wizzup | but the packages are mostly stretch | 01:29 |
| Wizzup | Juesto: that's a vague question :) | 01:29 |
| Juesto | intended | 01:30 |
| Juesto | i am asking broadly | 01:30 |
| Wizzup | then "maybe" | 01:30 |
| Wizzup | :P | 01:30 |
| Juesto | should a user who installs leste on his n900 expect bugs fixed while requiring no learning curve? | 01:31 |
| Wizzup | right now? definitely | 01:31 |
| Wizzup | in the future? hopefully not | 01:31 |
| Juesto | aka, experience the system how they always did | 01:31 |
| Juesto | Oh... | 01:31 |
| Juesto | why | 01:31 |
| Wizzup | because bugs always exist :) | 01:32 |
| Wizzup | btw, don't count on being able to use it as a daily driver in a few weeks | 01:32 |
| Wizzup | I said, in a week or two we'll have an sd card image that people can try | 01:32 |
| Wizzup | and hopefully attract developers to help out more | 01:32 |
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| Juesto | of course, i just asked with the supposition of a existing release | 01:33 |
| Wizzup | right now a lot is missing. | 01:33 |
| Wizzup | you can't even connect to wifi without using the terminal | 01:33 |
| Wizzup | that will change | 01:33 |
| Juesto | not at this state | 01:33 |
| Juesto | oh well | 01:33 |
| Juesto | nvm | 01:33 |
| Juesto | good luck | 01:34 |
| Wizzup | :) | 01:34 |
| Wizzup | it's late here | 01:34 |
| Wizzup | gn | 01:34 |
| Juesto | enjoy your night buddy | 01:34 |
| Wizzup | short one, but worth it :P | 01:34 |
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| sicelo | f/sb end | 08:21 |
| Juesto | ? | 08:22 |
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| vahe | ~lf | 17:32 |
| infobot | methinks #maemo lazyflashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach | 17:32 |
| vahe | hi #maemo | 17:33 |
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| bencoh | mreow~ | 17:47 |
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| Vajb | does maemo have something like windows "enviroment variables"? So i could call my scripts from mmc easily. | 20:29 |
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| sicelo | Vajb: s/maemo/Linux/ | 20:33 |
| sicelo | :) | 20:33 |
| sicelo | answer, yes | 20:33 |
| Vajb | great! | 20:46 |
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