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varu | hmmm, looks like flashing might be a problem.. the nokia server's gone | 01:32 |
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pkill9 | there's a mirror available varu | 01:34 |
pkill9 | ~nokia mirror | 01:34 |
varu | i think i got it | 01:34 |
varu | http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/ | 01:34 |
pkill9 | hmm i thought that command worked | 01:34 |
pkill9 | ~ nokia mirror | 01:36 |
pkill9 | ~lf | 01:38 |
infobot | it has been said that #maemo lazyflashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach | 01:38 |
pkill9 | hmm | 01:39 |
varu | how the hell did i get this to work on 64bit windows before... | 01:46 |
varu | there, libusbK does it | 01:50 |
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varu | TIL you can't do dist-upgrade... uninstalls everything \o/ | 02:49 |
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CatButts | fart my rainbow | 04:07 |
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sixwheeledbeast | hmm, I was expecting that, three hours before it happened. Shame infobot isn't clever enough to +q "people" that highlight it over and over. | 10:42 |
sixwheeledbeast | ~botsnack | 10:43 |
infobot | sixwheeledbeast: :) | 10:43 |
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varu | hmm, this is strange | 12:21 |
varu | trying a reflash, detects and 'boots it into flash mode'.. once that's triggered, it doesn't register anything else via USB (and thus the flasher hangs) | 12:21 |
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varu | ahh, was trying for emmc & had to flash combined first | 12:23 |
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varu | cssu is now on; if i try a dist-upgrade, it still tries to uninstall everything | 13:44 |
varu | otherwise, for the time being, The following packages have been kept back: | 13:45 |
varu | libgcc1 libsdl-mixer1.2 libstdc++6 | 13:45 |
varu | procedure was loading on RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM, updating the repo locations to the mirror, doing an update & upgrade, then loading cssu | 13:46 |
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sixwheeledbeast | You shouldn't use apt in maemo. especially not dist-upgrade | 14:45 |
sixwheeledbeast | ~ham | 14:46 |
infobot | somebody said ham was Hildon Application Manager. Slow as molasses. Anticipate you got time for a beer or two until it finishes whatever it does, or see ~speedyham | 14:46 |
varu | ~speedyham | 14:48 |
infobot | i guess speedyham is 30 times faster than HAM https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-application-manager, now included in CSSU. | 14:48 |
varu | so cssu-stable includes it by default? | 14:48 |
sixwheeledbeast | testing does | 14:51 |
varu | hmmm.. can i change from one to the other without reflashing? | 14:52 |
sixwheeledbeast | I believe some fixes are in stable but not all | 14:52 |
sixwheeledbeast | You can go to testing but not back again without reflashing | 14:52 |
varu | sweet | 14:52 |
sixwheeledbeast | also if your starting fresh check out bm | 14:52 |
sixwheeledbeast | ~bm | 14:52 |
infobot | from memory, backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975, or one-click install handling dependency issues: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/BM.install | 14:52 |
varu | ahh, looks like i had installed testing to boot | 14:55 |
sixwheeledbeast | ~getversion | 14:56 |
infobot | i guess getversion is input the following in a terminal: osso-product-info | grep OSSO_VERSION | cut -d "'" -f 2; dpkg-query -W -f='${Version} ' mp-fremantle-community-pr; uname -r | 14:56 |
varu | RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_MR0 | 14:57 |
varu | 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo12 2.6.28.10-power53 | 14:57 |
sixwheeledbeast | PR.1.3.1, CSSU Testing and KP. Simples | 15:06 |
varu | yeah, should be the latest | 15:06 |
sixwheeledbeast | so you have ~speedyham | 15:07 |
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varu | \o/ | 15:07 |
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CatButts | hey guys, I've always been wondering | 15:39 |
CatButts | a linux question | 15:40 |
CatButts | maemo unrelated | 15:40 |
CatButts | say I do monthly backups of multi-partition disk | 15:40 |
CatButts | via fancy script and good ol 'dd' | 15:40 |
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CatButts | how would I safely put it back without upsetting the other partitions? | 15:42 |
CatButts | I think of two scenarios | 15:42 |
CatButts | 1. overwriting an existing partition | 15:42 |
CatButts | 2. writing to unpartitioned space | 15:42 |
varu | by backing up each partition individually and restoring it as such as well? | 15:45 |
CatButts | well, they are individually backed up | 15:46 |
varu | dd if=/dev/sda1 of=backup.lol && dd if=backup.lol of=/dev/sda1 sort of thing | 15:47 |
KotCzarny | varu: maemo isnt debian, dont try apt magic | 15:47 |
KotCzarny | especially if you have weird repos on | 15:47 |
varu | noted, i've reached stability now | 15:47 |
varu | oscp installed, all the FM transmitter stuff (76-107.9 in .1 increments, increased txpower) | 15:48 |
varu | now just syncing & playlists and i should be good | 15:48 |
CatButts | I figure ways to break things all the time! | 15:48 |
KotCzarny | breaking things is useful when you want to reach some otherwise unreachable result | 15:49 |
KotCzarny | otherwise it's better not to complicate one's life more than necessary | 15:49 |
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KotCzarny | varu: in oscp you can have 10 shortcuts for files/dirs/playlists reachable via 0-9 | 16:00 |
KotCzarny | and lots of other functionality, just ask | 16:00 |
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sicelo | mmm, varu, what is the FM transmitter stuff .. package name. i know it exists, but have never used it before. however i have this car radio from Japan, and it means i could get perfect transmission if i transmit at <88MHz | 19:27 |
sicelo | my area uses 88-108 | 19:27 |
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KotCzarny | it's not legal if your country has that freq for other purposes | 19:27 |
sicelo | you're right .. but mine doesnn't use the range :) | 19:28 |
KotCzarny | and you still can get perfect transmission in 88-108 because it's fm not am | 19:28 |
sicelo | have you used the FM transmitter in a moving car? | 19:29 |
KotCzarny | yes | 19:29 |
KotCzarny | trick is to put the n900 where it can propagate signal to car's antenna | 19:30 |
sicelo | in many places, i find i have to occassionally change the freq as a 'free' freq in one place may not be free in another | 19:30 |
KotCzarny | ahm, that problem | 19:30 |
KotCzarny | i've found 107.9 to be unused almost everywhere | 19:30 |
sicelo | here there's a station at that frequency :) | 19:31 |
KotCzarny | hehe | 19:31 |
KotCzarny | pirate station? | 19:31 |
sicelo | it looks like they chose the extremes so that it could be easy for people to find it.just swing the dial to either end, voiala! | 19:32 |
sicelo | typo | 19:32 |
sicelo | anyway, this car radio uses the japan range and of course, does not pickup most of the stations here except 1 or 2 | 19:33 |
sixwheeledbeast | over here 107.9 is used a lot for local community radios but it depends on the area. the best place is between two of these "lower distance" services. | 19:34 |
KotCzarny | sicelo, have you tried to use command line to set <88 ? | 19:34 |
sicelo | not since i've had this car. will test. | 19:34 |
sicelo | so it's not a matter of 'enabling' something then? | 19:35 |
KotCzarny | dont know, migth be hardcoded limit in the exe | 19:35 |
sicelo | .exe :p | 19:35 |
CatButts | lol | 19:35 |
KotCzarny | exe being short for executable, dont go anal :P | 19:36 |
sicelo | so yes, it cannot be set to 80MHz for example. just tried | 19:36 |
CatButts | the elf is hardheaded! | 19:36 |
sixwheeledbeast | 88100 is the limit in fmtx_client | 19:36 |
varu | you need fmtx-faker & the fmtxd from the fm transmitter page on the forums | 19:37 |
sicelo | thanks varu | 19:37 |
KotCzarny | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=585212&postcount=34 | 19:37 |
varu | you rename your existing fmtxd to fmtxd-old or whatever after you killall fmtxd | 19:37 |
varu | then swap it in (/usr/sbin) | 19:37 |
varu | then "viola" | 19:37 |
sicelo | . works fine. no hidden gotchas? | 19:37 |
varu | nope | 19:37 |
varu | txpwr is 120 too | 19:37 |
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varu | you'll also want the fm rds thing so you can see the tracks you're playing on your radio screen | 19:38 |
varu | it's in extras-devel | 19:38 |
KotCzarny | varu: does it support anything more than few letters? ie full rds? | 19:38 |
varu | it scrolls artist & title (customizable) | 19:39 |
KotCzarny | ahm, so kludge, oh well | 19:39 |
varu | but if you mean type messages & whatever else is in the RDS standard... probably not | 19:39 |
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varu | won't be long until things go the way of norway anyway and it'll all be moot | 19:39 |
KotCzarny | sicelo, can you try: /usr/share/lfocus/v4l2-ctl -d /dev/radio0 -f 80.0 etc? | 19:40 |
varu | complete with 2-3-second delay in changing channels and complete dropoffs instead of 'graceful' degradation | 19:40 |
varu | sometimes analog is better. | 19:40 |
sicelo | KotCzarny: i don't have lfocus | 19:41 |
KotCzarny | see the post i've pasted | 19:41 |
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sixwheeledbeast | I thought FM Boost thing was depreciated by some update ages ago | 19:42 |
varu | basically is, built into the fmtxd available on the forum | 19:42 |
sixwheeledbeast | no something like cssu or kp, IIRC | 19:43 |
varu | ahh, that might play a role. i had both already installed | 19:43 |
varu | then just replaced fmtxd and that was that | 19:43 |
KotCzarny | some suggest 87.5 as being best for 'nothing transmits there' | 19:43 |
varu | (oh and fmtx-faker to get 76-107.9 in .1 increments) | 19:43 |
sixwheeledbeast | Was a long while ago I remember something like that. | 19:43 |
sicelo | sixwheeledbeast: i have that recollection too | 19:44 |
sicelo | just checked, yes power level is set to 120 already (due to some CSSU tweaks) | 19:47 |
sicelo | KotCzarny: i don't understand the point of that post .. he's setting 87.5, which the default configuration already supports :-/ | 19:48 |
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KotCzarny | 18:27 #maemo sicelo > my area uses 88-108 | 19:49 |
KotCzarny | see? | 19:49 |
KotCzarny | it's just an example that it can be solution without faking anything | 19:50 |
sicelo | heh. you aren'tgetting one point - i have a radio that supports 77-90 (or wherever the Japan band stops) | 19:50 |
KotCzarny | i know, you say you want way below 88 | 19:50 |
sicelo | yes, so i never get interference | 19:50 |
KotCzarny | but there is a chance that setting to 87.5 might be enough to get reception without breaking the law | 19:50 |
varu | & watch out for those pesky compliance enforcement vans if you do ;) | 19:53 |
sicelo | :-) | 19:53 |
varu | 76-88 is pretty far off from any ham bands so you won't make them mad.. unless the N900's transmitter goes 'ham' on the harmonics at out-of-spec freqs (not sure if it was designed to spit out 76-88) | 19:54 |
sicelo | here those laws exists, but there are no means to enforce them. heck we even do not have fixed speed cameras on our roads! the only time you will be caught speeding is if there are police on the road (not that i speed) | 19:55 |
KotCzarny | :) | 19:55 |
varu | heh, up here there was a kid blasting an illegal FM transmitter for i think over a month | 19:56 |
varu | completely drowned out a legit station | 19:56 |
varu | played good music too | 19:56 |
sicelo | i think you could get away with that here easily | 19:56 |
varu | but that's how long it took'em to shut him down | 19:56 |
varu | i think you and your puny-milliwatt n900 will be just fine | 19:57 |
varu | you practically have to glue the thing to the radio to get reasonable quality anyway | 19:57 |
KotCzarny | ho hum, i suspect if he chose some free band it might took longer | 19:57 |
KotCzarny | unless his setup was so noisy it got over everything | 19:57 |
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sicelo | fyi, KotCzarny, the method in your link works for up to 87.5, which helps a bit. pity you can only run it while the fm_tx is active, and it resets each time. useful nonetheless | 20:18 |
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varu | i used fmtxd from post #1 in https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=60567 + fmtx-faker | 20:41 |
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sicelo | cleanup | 22:46 |
sicelo | bleh | 22:46 |
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