IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2017-12-18

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varuhmmm, looks like flashing might be a problem.. the nokia server's gone01:32
pkill9there's a mirror available varu01:34
pkill9~nokia mirror01:34
varui think i got it01:34
varuhttp://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/01:34
pkill9hmm i thought that command worked01:34
pkill9~ nokia mirror01:36
pkill9~lf01:38
infobotit has been said that #maemo lazyflashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach01:38
pkill9hmm01:39
varuhow the hell did i get this to work on 64bit windows before...01:46
varuthere, libusbK does it01:50
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varuTIL you can't do dist-upgrade... uninstalls everything \o/02:49
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CatButtsfart my rainbow04:07
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sixwheeledbeasthmm, I was expecting that, three hours before it happened. Shame infobot isn't clever enough to +q "people" that highlight it over and over.10:42
sixwheeledbeast~botsnack10:43
infobotsixwheeledbeast: :)10:43
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varuhmm, this is strange12:21
varutrying a reflash, detects and 'boots it into flash mode'.. once that's triggered, it doesn't register anything else via USB (and thus the flasher hangs)12:21
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varuahh, was trying for emmc & had to flash combined first12:23
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varucssu is now on; if i try a dist-upgrade, it still tries to uninstall everything13:44
varuotherwise, for the time being, The following packages have been kept back:13:45
varu  libgcc1 libsdl-mixer1.2 libstdc++613:45
varuprocedure was loading on RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM, updating the repo locations to the mirror, doing an update & upgrade, then loading cssu13:46
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sixwheeledbeastYou shouldn't use apt in maemo. especially not dist-upgrade14:45
sixwheeledbeast~ham14:46
infobotsomebody said ham was Hildon Application Manager.  Slow as molasses. Anticipate you got time for a beer or two until it finishes whatever it does, or see ~speedyham14:46
varu~speedyham14:48
infoboti guess speedyham is 30 times faster than HAM https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-application-manager, now included in CSSU.14:48
varuso cssu-stable includes it by default?14:48
sixwheeledbeasttesting does14:51
varuhmmm.. can i change from one to the other without reflashing?14:52
sixwheeledbeastI believe some fixes are in stable but not all14:52
sixwheeledbeastYou can go to testing but not back again without reflashing14:52
varusweet14:52
sixwheeledbeastalso if your starting fresh check out bm14:52
sixwheeledbeast~bm14:52
infobotfrom memory, backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975, or one-click install handling dependency issues: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/BM.install14:52
varuahh, looks like i had installed testing to boot14:55
sixwheeledbeast~getversion14:56
infoboti guess getversion is input the following in a terminal:   osso-product-info | grep OSSO_VERSION | cut -d "'" -f 2; dpkg-query -W -f='${Version}  ' mp-fremantle-community-pr; uname -r14:56
varuRX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_MR014:57
varu21.2011.38-1Tmaemo12  2.6.28.10-power5314:57
sixwheeledbeastPR.1.3.1, CSSU Testing and KP. Simples15:06
varuyeah, should be the latest15:06
sixwheeledbeastso you have ~speedyham15:07
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varu\o/15:07
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CatButtshey guys, I've always been wondering15:39
CatButtsa linux question15:40
CatButtsmaemo unrelated15:40
CatButtssay I do monthly backups of multi-partition disk15:40
CatButtsvia fancy script and good ol 'dd'15:40
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CatButtshow would I safely put it back without upsetting the other partitions?15:42
CatButtsI think of two scenarios15:42
CatButts1. overwriting an existing partition15:42
CatButts2. writing to unpartitioned space15:42
varuby backing up each partition individually and restoring it as such as well?15:45
CatButtswell, they are individually backed up15:46
varudd if=/dev/sda1 of=backup.lol && dd if=backup.lol of=/dev/sda1 sort of thing15:47
KotCzarnyvaru: maemo isnt debian, dont try apt magic15:47
KotCzarnyespecially if you have weird repos on15:47
varunoted, i've reached stability now15:47
varuoscp installed, all the FM transmitter stuff (76-107.9 in .1 increments, increased txpower)15:48
varunow just syncing & playlists and i should be good15:48
CatButtsI figure ways to break things all the time!15:48
KotCzarnybreaking things is useful when you want to reach some otherwise unreachable result15:49
KotCzarnyotherwise it's better not to complicate one's life more than necessary15:49
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KotCzarnyvaru: in oscp you can have 10 shortcuts for files/dirs/playlists reachable via 0-916:00
KotCzarnyand lots of other functionality, just ask16:00
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sicelommm, varu, what is the FM transmitter stuff .. package name. i know it exists, but have never used it before. however i have this car radio from Japan, and it means i could get perfect transmission if i transmit at <88MHz19:27
sicelomy area uses 88-10819:27
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KotCzarnyit's not legal if your country has that freq for other purposes19:27
siceloyou're right .. but mine doesnn't use the range  :)19:28
KotCzarnyand you still can get perfect transmission in 88-108 because it's fm not am19:28
sicelohave you used the FM transmitter in a moving car?19:29
KotCzarnyyes19:29
KotCzarnytrick is to put the n900 where it can propagate signal to car's antenna19:30
siceloin many places, i find i have to occassionally  change the freq as a 'free' freq in one place may not be free in another19:30
KotCzarnyahm, that problem19:30
KotCzarnyi've found 107.9 to be unused almost everywhere19:30
sicelohere there's a station at that frequency :)19:31
KotCzarnyhehe19:31
KotCzarnypirate station?19:31
siceloit looks like they chose the extremes so that it could be easy for people to find it.just swing the dial to either end, voiala!19:32
sicelotypo19:32
siceloanyway, this car radio uses the japan range and of course, does not pickup most of the stations here except 1 or 219:33
sixwheeledbeastover here 107.9 is used a lot for local community radios but it depends on the area. the best place is between two of these "lower distance" services.19:34
KotCzarnysicelo, have you tried to use command line to set <88 ?19:34
sicelonot since i've had this car. will test.19:34
siceloso it's not a matter of 'enabling' something then?19:35
KotCzarnydont know, migth be hardcoded limit in the exe19:35
sicelo.exe :p19:35
CatButtslol19:35
KotCzarnyexe being short for executable, dont go anal :P19:36
siceloso yes, it cannot be set to 80MHz for example. just tried19:36
CatButtsthe elf is hardheaded!19:36
sixwheeledbeast88100 is the limit in fmtx_client19:36
varuyou need fmtx-faker & the fmtxd from the fm transmitter page on the forums19:37
sicelothanks varu19:37
KotCzarny http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=585212&postcount=3419:37
varuyou rename your existing fmtxd to fmtxd-old or whatever after you killall fmtxd19:37
varuthen swap it in (/usr/sbin)19:37
varuthen "viola"19:37
sicelo. works fine. no hidden gotchas?19:37
varunope19:37
varutxpwr is 120 too19:37
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varuyou'll also want the fm rds thing so you can see the tracks you're playing on your radio screen19:38
varuit's in extras-devel19:38
KotCzarnyvaru: does it support anything more than few letters? ie full rds?19:38
varuit scrolls artist & title (customizable)19:39
KotCzarnyahm, so kludge, oh well19:39
varubut if you mean type messages & whatever else is in the RDS standard... probably not19:39
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varuwon't be long until things go the way of norway anyway and it'll all be moot19:39
KotCzarnysicelo, can you try: /usr/share/lfocus/v4l2-ctl -d /dev/radio0 -f 80.0 etc?19:40
varucomplete with 2-3-second delay in changing channels and complete dropoffs instead of 'graceful' degradation19:40
varusometimes analog is better.19:40
siceloKotCzarny: i don't have lfocus19:41
KotCzarnysee the post i've pasted19:41
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sixwheeledbeastI thought FM Boost thing was depreciated by some update ages ago19:42
varubasically is, built into the fmtxd available on the forum19:42
sixwheeledbeastno something like cssu or kp, IIRC19:43
varuahh, that might play a role. i had both already installed19:43
varuthen just replaced fmtxd and that was that19:43
KotCzarnysome suggest 87.5 as being best for 'nothing transmits there'19:43
varu(oh and fmtx-faker to get 76-107.9 in .1 increments)19:43
sixwheeledbeastWas a long while ago I remember something like that.19:43
sicelosixwheeledbeast: i have that recollection too19:44
sicelojust checked, yes power level is set to 120 already (due to some CSSU tweaks)19:47
siceloKotCzarny: i don't understand the point of that post .. he's setting 87.5, which the default configuration already supports :-/19:48
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KotCzarny18:27 #maemo sicelo   > my area uses 88-10819:49
KotCzarnysee?19:49
KotCzarnyit's just an example that it can be solution without faking anything19:50
siceloheh. you aren'tgetting one point - i have a radio that  supports 77-90 (or wherever the Japan band stops)19:50
KotCzarnyi know, you say you want way below 8819:50
siceloyes, so i never get interference19:50
KotCzarnybut there is a chance that setting to 87.5 might be enough to get reception without breaking the law19:50
varu& watch out for those pesky compliance enforcement vans if you do ;)19:53
sicelo:-)19:53
varu76-88 is pretty far off from any ham bands so you won't make them mad.. unless the N900's transmitter goes 'ham' on the harmonics at out-of-spec freqs (not sure if it was designed to spit out 76-88)19:54
sicelohere those laws exists, but there are no means to enforce them. heck we even do not have fixed speed cameras on our roads! the only time you will be caught speeding is if there are police on the road (not that i speed)19:55
KotCzarny:)19:55
varuheh, up here there was a kid blasting an illegal FM transmitter for i think over a month19:56
varucompletely drowned out a legit station19:56
varuplayed good music too19:56
siceloi think you could get away with that here easily19:56
varubut that's how long it took'em to shut him down19:56
varui think you and your puny-milliwatt n900 will be just fine19:57
varuyou practically have to glue the thing to the radio to get reasonable quality anyway19:57
KotCzarnyho hum, i suspect if he chose some free band it might took longer19:57
KotCzarnyunless his setup was so noisy it got over everything19:57
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sicelofyi, KotCzarny, the method in your link works for up to 87.5, which helps a bit. pity you can only run it while the fm_tx is active, and it resets each time. useful nonetheless20:18
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varui used fmtxd from post #1 in https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=60567 + fmtx-faker20:41
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