IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2017-11-29

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_axonN9pp_hello good evening, i wrote a python script for my n900. is there a way how i can create an icon for it in the app menu?02:12
_axonN9pp_I am using it multiple times per day and it is a bit annoying to enter the terminal go to the directory and start it ...02:13
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sixwheeledbeastoh, yes there is...02:22
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DocScrutinizer05gone12:40
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DocScrutinizer05N=MyLeeteApp echo -e "[Desktop Entry]\nEncoding=UTF-8\nVersion=1.0\nType=Application\nName=$N\nExec=/opt/$N/bin/$N.py\nIcon=$N\nX-Osso-Type=application/x-executable\nTerminal=false" >/usr/share/applications/hildon/$N.desktop12:51
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DocScrutinizer05KotCzarny: please don't suggest thumb to newbies12:55
KotCzarnythere are newbies and newbies12:55
WizzupUnable to update 'Maemo 5 Community SSU Package'. Conflict with application packages: curl (7.26.0-1maemo1+0cssu1+thumb1)12:59
WizzupNot sure if I want to remove the currently installed curl ;)12:59
DocScrutinizer05pkyes, you can upgrade from CSSU-stable to CSSU-testing any time13:01
DocScrutinizer05and it's "officially" supported even13:02
KotCzarnydocs: the more people using it, the higher chance of spotting bugs. and no, i wont suggest it for complete green ones. only those that look like can be useful13:07
DocScrutinizer05Wizzup: that's nasty13:08
DocScrutinizer05hmmm  >>libcurl3 (>= 7.26.0-1maemo1+0cssu3)   * curl: Fixes - cve-2013-0249, cve-2013-1944, cve-2013-2174, #705783, #719300, cve-2013-4545, #729965, cve-2013-6422,                  cve-2014-0015, cve-2014-0138, cve-2014-0139, cve-2014-3613, cve-2014-3620, cve-2014-3707, cve-2014-8150,                  cve-2015-3143, cve-2015-3148, cve-2016-5419, cve-2016-5420, cve-2016-7141, cve-2016-7167, cve-2016-8615                  cve-2016-8616, cve-13:14
DocScrutinizer052016-8617, cve-2016-8618, cve-2016-8619, cve-2016-8621, cve-2016-8622, cve-2016-8623                  cve-2016-8624 and cve-2016-9586 <<13:14
DocScrutinizer05the joy of thumb13:14
MaxdamantusThe first rule of thumb is: don't talk about thumb.13:18
sicelohaha Maxdamantus :)13:19
CatButtspull my thumb13:20
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DocScrutinizer05\o/  \o/  \o/  \o/  \o/  \o/    * status-area-applet-battery: When charging, reflect charge status in icon (e.g. battery half full: only upper half of icon animated);13:22
DocScrutinizer05WOOOOOW!!!  Add gconf key for spawning application on click13:23
CatButtsabout bloody time13:23
DocScrutinizer05:-(((  MCE still not fixed??? still invisible status LED on full brighness in the sun?13:24
DocScrutinizer05I guess it's about time I provide a *decent* app to call when clicking battery icon13:27
DocScrutinizer05zenity will indeed come in handy13:28
sicelothe gconf key  is for what?13:29
DocScrutinizer05I hate all this GUI gibberish forcing me to leave bash scripting13:29
DocScrutinizer05Add gconf key for spawning application on click of battery icon in status bar13:30
DocScrutinizer05s/bar/menu/13:30
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: Add gconf key for spawning application on click of battery icon in status menu13:30
sicelowhat application?13:31
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DocScrutinizer05~cssu13:31
infobothmm... cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update)13:31
DocScrutinizer05http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog#Tmaemo1213:32
CatButtsoh, CSSU update, nice13:32
DocScrutinizer05>>Add gconf key for spawning application on click /apps/osso/status-area-applet-battery/exec_application<<13:32
CatButtsanything I should do before triggering the update?13:32
DocScrutinizer05yes!!!13:33
CatButtsperhaps turning certain repos off?13:33
DocScrutinizer05BM backup13:33
DocScrutinizer05that too13:33
CatButtsths is out for thumb, too, yes?13:34
DocScrutinizer05no13:34
CatButtsbummer13:34
DocScrutinizer05thumb...13:35
DocScrutinizer05you've been warned13:35
CatButtsso I guess thumb cssu will be a bit behind other CSSU flavours13:35
DocScrutinizer05sure13:38
DocScrutinizer05though you can safely install CSSU-testing over CSSU-thumb13:38
DocScrutinizer05you'll just lose those apps that are updated in testing13:39
KotCzarnyisnt cssu-testing more unsafe than cssu-thumb?13:39
DocScrutinizer05noway!!13:39
KotCzarnyunsafe in the way of more chance of packages having bugs13:40
DocScrutinizer05what makes you think so?13:40
KotCzarny'testing'13:40
KotCzarnythumb seems more or less stable13:40
sicelothey are both testing, afaik.13:40
DocScrutinizer05afaik thumb is based on testing13:40
DocScrutinizer05just with a compiler option13:41
KotCzarnyhmm13:41
KotCzarnyoh well, gotta run.13:41
DocScrutinizer05though it seems freemangordon added some secuity patches just in time that only came in to testing with recent update, see curl above13:41
DocScrutinizer05thumb: curl (7.26.0-1maemo1+0cssu1+thumb1)   T12: libcurl3 (>= 7.26.0-1maemo1+0cssu313:43
* CatButts checks out what flavour he installed13:43
DocScrutinizer05apt-cache policy mp-fremantle-community-pr13:45
DocScrutinizer05apt-cache show 'mp-fremantle-community-pr' |less13:45
* DocScrutinizer05 ponders to "fix" apt-cache show to filter out those idiotic icon base64 deserts13:46
WizzupMaxdamantus: why, wrt thumb?13:54
siceloi think it was just a pun :)13:59
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pkill9DocScrutinizer05: by 'BM' do you mean 'backupmenu'?14:05
DocScrutinizer05~bm14:06
infoboti guess backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975, or one-click install handling dependency issues: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/BM.install14:06
pkill9what's the proper way to update to new CSSU version?14:07
DocScrutinizer05click the blinking "!" in status bar14:07
pkill9ah ok, i don't see it so i assume the new update is only for CSSU-testing14:08
DocScrutinizer05note that there is a CSSU update, reboot and do a BM backup. reboot and then do update14:09
DocScrutinizer05yes14:09
MaxdamantusWizzup: was just making a pun out of doc's statement, “please don't suggest thumb to newbies”14:11
WizzupMaxdamantus: oh, got him on ignore, so missed the context. ;)14:12
MaxdamantusMm .. /me generally dislikes the idea of ignoring messages on IRC channels.14:13
MaxdamantusIf someone really deserves to be ignored, they should probably just be banned from the channel.14:14
MaxdamantusThough on a related note, I'm ignored by doc.14:14
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CatButtsignorance is bliss14:55
CatButtshttp://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb this changelog make catbutts sad15:01
CatButtswith last release in 201415:02
CatButtsI am half tempted to ditch thumb in favour of vanilla testing :p15:08
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CatButtsI assume this means reflashing15:12
pkill9can you use the extras-testign repo with CSSU-stable?15:22
pkill9or do you need CSSU-testing to do that?15:22
* CatButts tries CSSU installer over already installed CSSU15:33
CatButtswish me luck!15:33
pkill9goodluck!15:34
CatButtsdon't try this at home!15:34
KotCzarnyi think changelog might need updating15:52
KotCzarnyotoh, dont forget to add notes about switching cssu flavours to wiki15:53
pkill9hmm, i think theme-customizer, cssu-features, tweakr and shortcutd would be good to be merged into one configuration application15:59
pkill9what is the FMTX applet?16:09
KotCzarnyfm transmitter enabler?16:16
pkill9i think it's the statusbar16:18
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Vajbawww can't install cssu update because of unmet dependencies16:41
siceloFMTX applet is a widget that makes it easier to select/adjust frequenccy for your fmtx. it also allows you to adjust RDS text, make SMS display on RDS, etc.16:58
sicelopkill9: ^16:58
sicelohowever, i think it has memory leaks and can misbehave. ymm16:59
pkill9ah thx16:59
siceloymmv, :)16:59
pkill9i wondered cos showing it all the time is an option in the CSSU-features application16:59
siceloit works good, when it does. i've used it lots of times .. but if you notice strange things happening with your hildon -deskotp, suspect it17:00
Vajbcssu update whines that it can't be installed because of curl. Should i upgrade curl manually by apt and then try cssu update from ham?17:04
Vajbapt shows that there is newer version available17:04
VajbInstalled: 7.26.0-1maemo1+0cssu117:05
Vajb  Candidate: 7.26.0-1maemo1+0cssu317:05
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pkill9is there a proper way to register a shortcut with hildon, instead of adding a .desktop file to either .local/share/applications/hildon or /usr/share/applications/hildon? I find it often crashes my n900 if i add or remove a .desktop file from either of those directories19:04
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DocScrutinizer05yes20:23
DocScrutinizer05what, it crashes your system? that shouldn't happen20:24
DocScrutinizer05there's however a command you should run to update the icon cache - I can't recall from top of my head right now20:25
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pkill9is python => 2.7 not stable on maemo?21:05
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DocScrutinizer05is it in maemo-extras?22:25
DocScrutinizer05then it should be stable22:25
DocScrutinizer05the whole purpose of extras-devl, extras-testing and extras is to make sure packages in extras are stable22:26
pkill9DocScrutinizer05: it's not, but the last update was in november 201322:27
pkill9i would have thought more people would use it, it's pretty common22:28
pkill9that's when version 2.7 was last updated22:28
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