IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2017-10-04

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brolin_empeyApparently the Friday the 13th next week is day number 286 of the year.  Is that unlucky news for Intel?08:38
KotCzarnynumerlogy only works when you are hunting some other numerology addicted criminal08:40
KotCzarnyotherwise it's just random numbers08:41
brolin_empeyKotCzarny: Does Larry Wall feel at home in your country? ;-)08:42
brolin_empeyOr Guido van Rossum in Paraguay?08:43
KotCzarnyi live in the internet, so probably yes08:43
brolin_empeyKotCzarny: I meant because Poland = .pl and because Paraguay = .py .  It was a computer joke (pun).08:44
KotCzarnyis redtube made of tubes?08:44
brolin_empeyKotCzarny: The pr0n Web site?08:45
KotCzarnyno, the scientific community site08:46
brolin_empeyKotCzarny: OK, I was not aware of that site (scientific community named redtube).  I thought that redtube was only a pr0n Web site.08:49
brolin_empeyIs the SGI Octane RoHS-compliant (so that it is unleaded, like modern gasoline)?08:52
KotCzarnyi think it's already obsolete and scrapped08:52
brolin_empeyDoes a heavy metal band have a lead singer?08:53
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brolin_empeyDo The Cars use an SGI Octane?09:13
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brolin_empeyIf there was a computer game company before the advent of the transistor, would the company be a Thermionic Valve?09:15
brolin_empeyDo you need a diode to rectify your current situation?09:21
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richrboo_Hello10:43
richrboo_is talk.maemo forums down?10:43
KotCzarnyworks for me10:44
richrboo_I'm getting a blacklist error10:44
richrboo_But I'm a legit user10:44
KotCzarny~unbanip10:44
infobotit has been said that unbanip is please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or contact tmo maintainer chem|st in here10:44
richrboo_Thanks, good to know10:44
KotCzarnyyou might try resetting your ip too if you have it dynamic10:44
richrboo_I'm on my mobile network, I'll try10:45
richrboo_Thanks for your help10:45
KotCzarnyinfobot: unbanip is also if your ip is dynamic, try changing it10:47
infobotKotCzarny: okay10:47
KotCzarny~unbanip10:47
infobotmethinks unbanip is please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or contact tmo maintainer chem|st in here10:47
KotCzarnyhrm10:47
KotCzarny~listkeys unbanip10:47
infobotFactoid search of 'unbanip' by key (3): unbanip #DEL# ;; #maemo unbanip ;; unbanip.10:47
KotCzarny~unbanip10:50
infobotunbanip is, like, please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or contact tmo maintainer chem|st in here, or if your ip is dynamic, try changing it10:50
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sixwheeledbeastsicelo: you having much luck with the new cutenews release? Widget seems to crash h-d for me.13:28
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blapi should port #Hase14:22
blapno wait, YOU should14:22
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DocScrutinizer05~factinfo #maemo unbanip17:17
infobot#maemo unbanip -- created by sixwheeledbeast^ <~zem@lagrange.cloud-7.de> at Sat Nov  7 18:11:46 2015 (696 days); last modified 6h 27m ago  by KotCzarny!ariel@31.135.195.151; it has been requested 26 times, last by KotCzarny, 6h 26m 46s ago.17:17
DocScrutinizer05~factinfo unbanip17:17
infobotthere's no such factoid as unbanip, DocScrutinizer0517:17
DocScrutinizer05~factinfo unbanip.17:17
infobotthere's no such factoid as unbanip., DocScrutinizer0517:17
DocScrutinizer05~listkeys unbanip17:17
infobotFactoid search of 'unbanip' by key (2): unbanip #DEL# ;; #maemo unbanip.17:17
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sicelosixwheeledbeast: i don't use widget (because there's no 'easy' way to add it to desktop)17:37
sixwheeledbeastsicelo: you add it like a normal widget17:37
siceloi don't see it in the list of widgets17:37
sicelobut cutenews itself works just fine after doing the permissions 'hack'17:38
sixwheeledbeastIt was missing in the last release but has now reappeared, however it crashes h-d for me if I add it.17:38
siceloholly molly! i see it now. weird. wasn't there earlier. or maybe needed to restart H#F (via a reboot)17:39
siceloi supposedly added it ... but i don't see it in any desktop. no longer appears in widget menu17:40
sicelos/H#F/H-D/17:41
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sixwheeledbeastfor me after 5 second of adding it h-d crashes and it is readded to the widgets list17:46
sixwheeledbeastso removed as a widget17:46
sicelowhat's your cssu version?17:46
sixwheeledbeaststable 817:46
sicelook. i'm on testing/thumb17:47
sicelonot crashing here .. but no widget in sight either, and still missing in list17:47
sixwheeledbeasti can test on thumb with another device17:48
sicelookay, bring widget up using cmdlne seems to work17:48
sicelobut widget via cmd .. err17:49
siceloor maybe my 'hack' creates problems for dbus, or whatever method the widget menu depends on.17:51
sicelobut no crash up to now.17:54
sicelotry yours from terminal17:55
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sixwheeledbeastneither the widget or the main program work for me at the moment18:01
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sixwheeledbeastfrom icons or the cli18:01
sicelosorry i missed some of your text ...18:02
sixwheeledbeastneither the widget or the main program work for me at the moment18:04
sixwheeledbeastfrom icons or the cli18:04
sicelo chmod 755 /opt/cutenews/bin/showwindow18:05
sixwheeledbeastQMetaMethod::invoke: Unable to handle unregistered datatype 'QList<QVariantList>'  repeated over and over18:06
sicelono idea. maybe need to reinstall? would seem you're missing something18:11
sixwheeledbeastPossibly, seems odd if it worked before. I'll have a look when I get a minute. I am currently trying out modrana from github with hope to get updates in extras again.18:13
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DocScrutinizer05widgets are hell spawn ;-) Since they all run inside the HD process so the _must_ behave absolutely correct or will crash whole desktop - that happened to me with PR1.1 and don't know which widget, which made a complete reflash necessary20:19
DocScrutinizer05it's probably the one most stupid design decision in whole maemo20:20
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sixwheeledbeastI would say that error repeated over and over would cause h-d to crash.21:12
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LjLDocScrutinizer05, that's interesting because although i tend to steer clear of even learning how "graphical shells" work, that kinda seems to remind me of how widgets and extensions and similar beasts work (or fail to work) in a few desktop environments...21:23
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: widgets run in context of hildon-home. also it has a mechanism to disable the buggy widgets upon crash21:41
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: soory, yes, HH21:42
DocScrutinizer05that mechanism either failed or lacked completely back when a widget nuked my N90021:42
freemangordonI am not sure it triggers on the first crash21:45
sixwheeledbeastfrom experience it removes all widgets from the desktops on crash21:48
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freemangordonsixwheeledbeast: or that one, yeah21:51
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: Pr1.0 or 1.1, bootloop21:55
DocScrutinizer05and I'm not even sure it was a genuinely bad widget or rather a hickup in FF's widget config or whatever21:56
DocScrutinizer05s/FF/HH21:56
DocScrutinizer05yeah, seen that total widget erasure once or twice since21:58
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blapyay pyra new wifi chip to get 'diversity'21:58
DocScrutinizer05wasn't aware it was an intentional safeguard measure21:58
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DocScrutinizer05ohwell they have plenty of space for the antennas ;-P21:59
DocScrutinizer05alas in Neo900 we can't21:59
blapah21:59
DocScrutinizer05not really21:59
DocScrutinizer05though WHAT??? they changed the wifi chip?22:01
blapoh new antenna adds diversity22:01
DocScrutinizer05that would be incredibly insane or unfortunate if they had (to)22:01
blapthey replaced the chip a while ago22:01
DocScrutinizer05don't they still use WL18xx?22:02
blapdon't know22:02
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