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| NeKit | <Masterboy> okay first pics incomming https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B260T5Oj5DtQZVh4NmwtNVI4c28 | 00:22 |
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| NeKit | <Masterboy> hildon on nexus flo | 00:22 |
| NeKit | it works with freedreno | 00:22 |
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| timeless | DocScrutinizer05: i just wrote this command: ps xao pid,ppid|perl -ne 'next unless s/ 0$//; print'|sort -nr|xargs -n1 pstree -uap | 03:48 |
| timeless | because the obvious command `pstree -uap` didn't work :o | 03:48 |
| * timeless wonders if anyone can guess why the obvious command failed / why the less obvious command worked | 03:48 | |
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| * timeless sighs | 04:02 | |
| timeless | linux tools are weird | 04:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | timeless: sorry, no idea | 04:53 |
| timeless | DocScrutinizer05: lxd/lxc | 04:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh | 04:53 |
| timeless | the container has a root process (1) | 04:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | blame systemd ;-P | 04:53 |
| timeless | nah, not actually systemd's fault | 04:53 |
| timeless | but whenever one "attaches" an extra instance into the lxc, it isn't rooted to (1) | 04:54 |
| timeless | it's just "poofed" into existence | 04:54 |
| * timeless is trying to figure out the easiest way to get a mail system working in this lxc thing | 04:55 | |
| timeless | basically, i have a cron session which runs a fairly fancy script, and i want to know that the script is working | 04:55 |
| timeless | normally, cron would send email for output | 04:55 |
| timeless | but... this lxc doesn't have a mail system configured, and my naive attempt at configuring debian-exim failed miserably | 04:55 |
| timeless | (I need /etc/passwd and /etc/group to be symlinks to elsewhere, because what I'm actually doing is rsync-backing-up another computer and i want to be able to see the usernames/groups from that other computer) | 04:56 |
| timeless | (that other computer doesn't have Debian-exim, so [debian] exim4 refuses to work) | 04:56 |
| timeless | turns out, setting up what i wanted for email w/ postfix was trivial :) | 05:50 |
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| stryngs | #TrevorForget =) | 06:30 |
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| blap | KotCzarny: is there a oscp for sailfish? | 15:40 |
| blap | i forgot if i asked before | 15:40 |
| KotCzarny | not yet | 15:41 |
| KotCzarny | sailfish uses weird software stack | 15:41 |
| blap | do you have interest in a droid 4 with sfos? | 15:41 |
| KotCzarny | if you are talking about donation, why not :P | 15:41 |
| blap | reduced price | 15:41 |
| KotCzarny | but i prefer good ol' n900 with normal linux | 15:41 |
| blap | ok | 15:41 |
| blap | with droid4 i have mostly usable webbrowsing | 15:42 |
| KotCzarny | i have usable webbrowsing with n900 | 15:42 |
| KotCzarny | but i'm patient enough | 15:42 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 15:42 |
| KotCzarny | gotta go, bbl | 15:42 |
| blap | ok | 15:42 |
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| Langoor | I dont know if this is the right place.. but I just got a N900 today | 18:13 |
| Langoor | the LCD is a little weird | 18:13 |
| Langoor | like 9/10th of the screen looks way more gray, then there is a little green bar and then the screen is normal | 18:14 |
| freemangordon | yes, this is the right place | 18:14 |
| freemangordon | could be the flat cable that connects screen to the board | 18:15 |
| Langoor | https://i.imgur.com/yq4iytp.jpg | 18:15 |
| Langoor | thats a picture | 18:15 |
| Langoor | the pixels appear fine | 18:15 |
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| freemangordon | but better wait for somebody who had problems with the screen to reply | 18:16 |
| freemangordon | as I have never had any | 18:16 |
| Langoor | allright | 18:16 |
| Langoor | this thing was cheap (20 euro) but its in a pretty meh shape | 18:16 |
| Langoor | sliders arent really smooth | 18:16 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 18:16 |
| freemangordon | this is your first n900? | 18:17 |
| Langoor | yup | 18:18 |
| freemangordon | ah, you're a bit late for the party :) | 18:18 |
| Langoor | yup | 18:18 |
| Langoor | I dont like the direct android and ios are going, from a privacy standpoint | 18:19 |
| Langoor | so while searching alternatives I came across the n900 | 18:19 |
| Langoor | I just think its a cool concept | 18:19 |
| freemangordon | parazyd: hi! how we are dealing with bugfixes/new package releases? or we still don;t have something established. https://github.com/fremantle-gtk2/codelockui/commit/8b65603b28f75b97557c19d0c1af78ef819445ac | 18:20 |
| freemangordon | Langoor: this is *the* device | 18:20 |
| freemangordon | unfortunately noone produces something even closer to it, and it is aging | 18:20 |
| Langoor | I like it so far, if it wasnt the lcd :( | 18:20 |
| freemangordon | replacement screens are cheap and easy to change afaik | 18:21 |
| Langoor | I couldnt find one | 18:21 |
| Langoor | well, one for 25 euro on ebay | 18:21 |
| freemangordon | well, I guess 25 is cheap | 18:21 |
| Langoor | I tought it was rather expensive | 18:22 |
| freemangordon | Langoor: btw, 2 more things to check on your devica - USB port (is it charging) and SIM card circuitry - the famous "all telephony functions disabled" error | 18:23 |
| freemangordon | *device | 18:23 |
| Langoor | charging and usb works, already connected it to my pc | 18:23 |
| freemangordon | well, I guess it depends on the budged (re cheap) | 18:23 |
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| freemangordon | Langoor: do you know talk.maemo.org? | 18:24 |
| bencoh | Langoor: congratz, and welcome aboard :) | 18:25 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: do you remember somebody having problems with the screen? | 18:25 |
| KotCzarny | Langoor: be cautious with usb port | 18:25 |
| bencoh | I dont remember who had issues, but maybe grepping (googling?) chan logs might help | 18:26 |
| freemangordon | mhm, it is fragile | 18:26 |
| KotCzarny | it's one of the flaws of n900 if treated roughly | 18:26 |
| blap | yeah many of mine died usb death | 18:26 |
| KotCzarny | mine is 8 years and still working | 18:26 |
| freemangordon | same here | 18:26 |
| KotCzarny | but i always align plug and device | 18:26 |
| KotCzarny | and using the same cable | 18:26 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 18:26 |
| freemangordon | but I filed all the chargers sprongs ;) | 18:26 |
| bencoh | :] | 18:26 |
| freemangordon | *springs | 18:26 |
| KotCzarny | mine are probably filed from use ;) | 18:26 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: wanna do some packaging? :p | 18:27 |
| Langoor | SIM works as well | 18:27 |
| Langoor | nice :D | 18:27 |
| bencoh | freemangordon: not sure I'll have time for it, but fire anyway :) | 18:27 |
| KotCzarny | Langoor: also be cutious with keyboard, there is a suspicion that modem failure comes from too much pressure from the top (kb) | 18:28 |
| freemangordon | ah, if you don;t have time, I'll do it, I was asking in case you have some spare time | 18:28 |
| KotCzarny | *cautious | 18:28 |
| Langoor | allright thanks for warning | 18:28 |
| Langoor | I think I found the problem with the lcd | 18:28 |
| KotCzarny | also, there is a high chance you can find fully functional device for 20-30eur | 18:29 |
| bencoh | freemangordon: quite busy these days, it should be a bit better in a few weeks | 18:29 |
| freemangordon | Langoor: could you share? | 18:29 |
| KotCzarny | most of mine were bought for 15-30eur | 18:29 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: sure, np | 18:29 |
| Langoor | yeah im uploading the picture | 18:29 |
| Langoor | I cant find N900's here for cheap | 18:30 |
| Langoor | they go for 150 (!!!) on a 2nd hand site | 18:30 |
| Langoor | https://i.imgur.com/MdcjCgs.jpg | 18:30 |
| Langoor | looks like a small crack in the lcd | 18:30 |
| bencoh | Langoor: is that a crack? | 18:30 |
| Langoor | im not sure | 18:30 |
| bencoh | :/ | 18:30 |
| Langoor | its not in the digitizer | 18:30 |
| Langoor | might be in the lcd | 18:30 |
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| freemangordon | yeah, looks like a crack | 18:31 |
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| KotCzarny | Langoor: wanna start a bussiness? i will get the ones from here for 30eur, you will pay me 50eur for each and sell for whatever you like :> | 18:32 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh: looks like a crack | 18:33 |
| Langoor | previous owner left all his shit on it | 18:35 |
| Langoor | still has contacts, pictures everything | 18:35 |
| Langoor | and a lot of games | 18:35 |
| KotCzarny | maybe it was mugged or lost | 18:36 |
| KotCzarny | try calling him and asking if he wants his data back | 18:36 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 18:36 |
| KotCzarny | being lost seems like a 90% probability | 18:36 |
| Langoor | dammit shitty lcd | 18:37 |
| bencoh | lost n900 :( | 18:37 |
| Langoor | I think tryting to get a new one is cheaper then replacing it? | 18:37 |
| KotCzarny | yup | 18:38 |
| Langoor | motherboard is still fine, usb and sim works | 18:38 |
| KotCzarny | but also a roulette | 18:38 |
| bencoh | finding a new one is probably simpler / cheaper yeah | 18:38 |
| KotCzarny | keep as a donor or taker | 18:38 |
| bencoh | and you can still use either of the twos to build a complete device anyway | 18:38 |
| Langoor | yeah | 18:39 |
| KotCzarny | but most likely you can get cheap 'no usb worky' or 'no modem worky' | 18:39 |
| Langoor | how hard are they to service? | 18:39 |
| KotCzarny | 4 screws | 18:39 |
| bencoh | Langoor: we have service manuals | 18:39 |
| KotCzarny | and one cable to fit in | 18:39 |
| bencoh | and schematics :) | 18:39 |
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| KotCzarny | trivial to replace screen assembly | 18:39 |
| Langoor | ohhh nice | 18:39 |
| KotCzarny | a bit harder if you want to replace only lcd | 18:40 |
| KotCzarny | so best bet is to get an n900 woth good screen | 18:41 |
| Langoor | ah nice | 18:41 |
| Langoor | it still has someones msn account in it wow | 18:41 |
| KotCzarny | if you want to returm data to owner, stop browsing, otherwise reflash | 18:42 |
| KotCzarny | ~flashing | 18:42 |
| infobot | rumour has it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing | 18:42 |
| Langoor | I'll flash it | 18:42 |
| parazyd | freemangordon: stagnated a little bit. been busy with work. should continue soon | 18:43 |
| parazyd | freemangordon: we only need to fix the arm repository generation, everything else is set | 18:43 |
| freemangordon | parazyd: ok, how to trigger a new build for a package? | 18:44 |
| parazyd | can we continue in the other channel? | 18:44 |
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| mehdi__ | Hi there, | 18:52 |
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| blap | hi | 19:00 |
| mehdi__ | I have an unscheduled system reboot related to an application failure and the only access I have to the system is via Remote Terminal. How would I determine the cause? | 19:05 |
| blap | new 160terabit/s cable laid across atlantic | 19:08 |
| blap | i don't know mehdi__ | 19:08 |
| bencoh | dunno what kind of system you're referring to but you could start by grepping the logs | 19:10 |
| bencoh | (or just reading the logs actually) | 19:10 |
| Langoor | the download link for the flasher is dead? | 19:10 |
| bencoh | which link are you referring to? | 19:11 |
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| mehdi__ | well, I need a command line to check which app... | 19:12 |
| Langoor | ~flashing | 19:12 |
| infobot | somebody said maemo-flashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing | 19:12 |
| Langoor | first link | 19:12 |
| Langoor | download for N900 | 19:12 |
| bencoh | by the way the main server for muarf.org isn't reachable for now, so I just changed the DNS records for mirrors.muarf.org and maemo.muarf.org to point to a fallback | 19:12 |
| Langoor | "Download the Flasher for your device model: N900, N810, N800 or 770" | 19:12 |
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| Langoor | and the firmware images too | 19:12 |
| mehdi__ | I know that logs are into /var/log/syslog /var/log/kern.log /var/log/dmesg | 19:12 |
| bencoh | but you might experience some downtime in case of old dns cache | 19:13 |
| mehdi__ | but with command lines, how to check the app? | 19:13 |
| Langoor | I guess nokia software updater doenst work anymore? | 19:13 |
| bencoh | Langoor: official nokia links are pretty much all dead yeah | 19:13 |
| bencoh | which is why we have mirrors / backups :) | 19:14 |
| mehdi__ | @bencoh: the system = Ubuntu for example | 19:14 |
| Langoor | im trying to get my n900 on a fresh install | 19:14 |
| Langoor | factory reset so to say | 19:14 |
| freemangordon | Langoor: use your favorite console text editor/viewer (vi or mcview or whatever) and open /var/log/syslog. Check what happened there | 19:22 |
| freemangordon | oops | 19:22 |
| freemangordon | mehdi__: ^^^ | 19:22 |
| bencoh | ~lazyflashing | 19:24 |
| infobot | lazyflashing is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach | 19:24 |
| bencoh | Langoor: have a look at ^^^ then - read script before launching it, though :) | 19:24 |
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| Langoor | allright, thanks | 19:31 |
| mehdi__ | yea that's it! @freemangordon | 19:33 |
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