IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2017-09-04

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Enrico_MenottiIf things are this way, problem solved: I just need to add the fingerprint of the key used to sign the mr0 repo on How to find it?00:00
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Enrico_Menotti(Or maybe I get all right when I install the cssu. That should be up to date with keys and so on.)00:02
Enrico_MenottiWell, may also be I have the fingerprint, but since the key is expired, the repos are not assigned the corresponding domain.00:33
Enrico_MenottiOh. I changed the year in my N900 clock, by setting it to 2010. At this point the keys are valid. Domains are recognised properly. I get other few "wrong domain" errors, now for I guess the key is newer than 2010.00:53
Enrico_MenottiSo no way - the repos should be signed with a valid key. I will do a workaround by setting the trust level of nokia-system and nokia-certified to 1, so when the original Nokia repos mirrored at are recognised as domain "signed" (since the key has expired), thus with trust level 1, packages may be moved to that domain. The downfall is that packages will be registered as having been installed from domain00:58
Enrico_Menotti "signed".00:58
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Enrico_MenottiJust one correction: I have set the trust level to 0, not 1. This because, in order to switch a package to a different domain, the new domain trust level must be higher (not equal) than the trust level of the old domain.01:10
DocScrutinizer05((If things are this way, problem solved: I just need to add the fingerprint of the key used to sign the mr0 repo on no, muarf is still signed with original nokia key, but the URL stored in that key doesn't match *muarf*01:10
Enrico_MenottiDocScrutinizer05 Well, the error in the log says "expired". In fact if I set the year in the clock to 2010, no more errors.01:11
DocScrutinizer05this is no error, it's a warning01:13
Enrico_MenottiYeah but seems the key is not considered valid to identify the domain. If I set the clock to 2010, the domain is correctly identified.01:14
Enrico_MenottiActually it is W: GPG error.01:16
Enrico_MenottiBed time. G'night.01:19
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DocScrutinizer05whatever, W is Warning, and the Nokia key is expired and can't get updated, and mirrors so far don't use new signing keys but simply copy the original Nokia signature01:23
DocScrutinizer05and I really don't get what exactly is the problem. I don't see stuff failing from the expired keys, but maybe that's just me01:26
DocScrutinizer05probably when you flash a PR1.2 or PR1.1 repo and then try to upgrade to PR1.3 level via SSU, you actually could run into errors from that. When you flash PR1.3 then I don't see any packages that could get updated from Nokia's repos and thus would fail because of lack of trust01:29
DocScrutinizer05s/repo/fiasco image/01:29
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: probably when you flash a PR1.2 or PR1.1 fiasco image and then try to upgrade to PR1.3 level via SSU, you actually could run into errors from that. When you flash PR1.3 then I don't see any packages that could get updated from Nokia's repos and thus would...01:29
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DocScrutinizer05installing "new" packages should still work since there's no previous packahe on your system from a source with higher trust level01:30
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Enrico_MenottiWell, correct, but actually I see a security update available. If I leave the trust level of the Nokia repos higher than 0, I get a *lot* of packages ignored.08:50
Enrico_Menotti(Due to "wrong domain".)08:50
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DocScrutinizer05security update == pr1.3 -> pr.1.3.113:56
DocScrutinizer05also comes with CSSU#13:57
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Enrico_MenottiYes, ok.18:36
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Enrico_MenottiFrom yesterday's discussion, seems that the proper way to install any package on the N900 is to always use the HAM, and never go directly with apt, since the latter way would prevent HAM to perform its additional tasks, like storing info about package domains. Is this correct?19:01
Enrico_MenottiI'm asking because I need to check whether my charger works or not - I'd do that by the script, which however requires the i2c-tools package. Apt-cache policy finds this package, while the HAM does not. I think this is because I don't have the extras-devel repo in my catalogues. So the right way to proceed is to create a catalogue for extras-devel, and then install i2c-tools from HAM?19:04
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infobotwell, hamvsfam is, or
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Enrico_Menottisixwheeledbeast Ok, so I'm on the right way. Now I'm looking around for the install files for extras-devel, but they don't come up at first googling. Any info? Maybe infobot knows?19:17
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, jrtools is
infoboti guess extras-devel is
sixwheeledbeastDunno about an .install file19:20
Enrico_MenottiWell, in the page about Joerg's tools, I found a link to a repositories.install file. This installs extras-testing, extras-devel and tools. I'd not go directly this way, since for now I only want extras-devel. Let me read the other wmo page.19:25
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infobotit has been said that jrrepos is
Enrico_MenottiI will go by, seems the cleanest and most essential way. I noticed however that the last code line on that page is an apt-get install. From what has been discussed, I'd say this should not be ever done. What's your opinion?19:35
Enrico_MenottiOne last thing: what about the signature? Is it the same as for Extras? So do I already have the right key in my system?19:35
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Enrico_MenottiI created the devel catalogue. HAM looked for updates. Interesting HAM log: "W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package binutils" and "W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems". Is my N900 saying "kill me please!"?19:48
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Enrico_MenottiWell, the catalogue is ok, but i2c-tools doesn't show up. But browsing the repository I see it. ???20:10
DocScrutinizer05i2ctools is not in "user" category, so it's supposed to get installed via apt-get20:17
DocScrutinizer05if was a proper "user" package in maemo repo, it would oull in i2ctools as dependency20:19
DocScrutinizer05generally speaking, the concept of trust level doesn't lend itself to tools repo, and packages from tools are frequently installed via apt-get20:21
DocScrutinizer05as a general rule, cli command packages are usually installed via cli (apt-get)20:22
DocScrutinizer05a few exceptions apply, e.g. for ssh packages20:23
Enrico_MenottiAh. Ok. Where is the package category indicated?20:26
DocScrutinizer05umm, good question20:27
DocScrutinizer05I never really cared20:28
DocScrutinizer05so I don't know20:28
infobotpkg is probably
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Enrico_MenottiOk, I think I got it. is a text file with info about the various packages (is it correct to call that "metainfo"?). Each package has a "Section:" line. E.g., ibus has "Section: user/utilities". libimlib2 has "libs". libimlib2-dev has "libdevel". And i2c-tools has "tools". I think HAM decides if and in which category display each package based20:31
Enrico_Menotti on this info. May it be?20:31
Enrico_MenottiSo in the end the extras-devel repo doesn't need to be added to the catalogues, for me to install i2c-tools. I will just go apt-get install i2c-tools. Ok?20:34
DocScrutinizer05i2ctools is in extras20:40
DocScrutinizer05yes, ok20:40
DocScrutinizer05i2ctools is needed e.g. by BM20:40
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Enrico_MenottiActually apt-cache policy i2c-tools says " fremantle-1.3/free Packages". Is the "extras" implied?20:49
DocScrutinizer05no, apt-cache woefully ommits the detail info about repo20:51
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DocScrutinizer05I'd call that a bug, but...20:52
Enrico_MenottiAlso, says "Install i2c-tools from extras-devel". Outdated wiki page?20:53
DocScrutinizer05powerscript??? :-o20:53
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Enrico_MenottiWell, I won't use that script, but I was just trying to figure out where to find the i2c-tools package.20:55
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Enrico_MenottiAnyway, I have extras-devel catalogue disabled in HAM. This eliminates the corresponding deb line in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list. The only deb lines I have are those pointing to the muarf mirror of the original system and apps Nokia repos, and the deb line pointing to So obviously the package has been found in extras.20:57
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infobotfrom memory, zzztop is - the better and even FOSS powertop -
DocScrutinizer05shameless commercial ad:
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Enrico_MenottiOk, I have the working. I have checked that when connected to my pc usb port, the N900 charges the battery, drawing about 350 mA from the pc (wow!). On the other hand, when connected to wall charger, the current is only 2 mA (if the device turns off the screen - if not, the battery is even discharging). So obviously it's not charging. I'm using a charger I'm sure works (it's a Nokia one, and I use it for my21:08
Enrico_Menotti other cell phone), with an adaptor to the mini USB of the N900 (provided by Nokia together with the N900). The charger provided by Nokia in the N900 box gives the same result.21:08
Enrico_MenottiNow when I got this N900 I'm sure the wall charger worked. I then half-bricked the device and had to use rescueOS to charge the battery. I fear it drew too much current and broke the adaptor: in fact, I remember it started charging, but suddenly stopped to, and never charged again. Odds are that the Hildon says the device is charging...21:10
Enrico_MenottiI will get a new adaptor (found one some months ago on Amazon, I think) and see if that works.21:11
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DocScrutinizer05Enrico_Menotti: please don't forget that bq27200 tells about BATTERY current, not USB current21:56
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Enrico_MenottiNice bot! :)21:57
DocScrutinizer05>>when connected to wall charger, the current is only 2 mA (if the device turns off the screen - if not, the battery is even discharging)<< is normal when battery is full21:57
Enrico_MenottiBattery not full. Connecting to the computer, 350 mA charging current.21:58
DocScrutinizer05anyway  for reference21:59
DocScrutinizer05 for a discharge22:01
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