IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2017-07-29

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hurrianoh man I used to have a F-07C03:37
hurrianlet's just say using it was _not_ pleasant. CPU was always a hair under thermal throttling under Win703:38
hurrianAnd the Symbian OS on it was a badly implemented keitai OS03:38
hurrianthe Sony UMPC worked better ;) we need more slide-up screen UMPCs, the GPD Pocket was disappointing when I learned it used a clamshell screen03:43
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DocScrutinizer05hurrian: win7 with symbian? how that?04:51
hurrianDocScrutinizer05: predictably, having Win7 run all the time in your pocket would be like having a mini-Note7 play out in your pants daily04:51
hurrianalso, Win7 doesn't have runtime PM worth a damn04:52
hurrianso, there's a Symbian OS system on it that handles texts and phone calls, and you only boot into Win7 when you need it04:52
DocScrutinizer05ohmy05:03
DocScrutinizer05dualboot with symbian and win7, what else might anybody wish for? X.P05:04
hurrianheh, nowadays it's an Android-Win10 dualboot on x86 tablets05:05
hurrianand I upgraded to a SGS8+ lately, the always-on display clock and gently curved glass remind me a lot of the N9!05:06
hurrianthe more things change, the more things stay the same, huh05:06
DocScrutinizer05:-D05:17
DocScrutinizer05Nokia been groundbreaking, a shame they got eloped05:18
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DocScrutinizer05for SGS8 see https://blog.exodusintel.com/2017/07/26/broadpwn/05:26
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hurrianDocScrutinizer05: Got my patch ;) Still mysterious how device makers thought it was a great idea to NOT use IOMMU for a device on PCIe bus with full RAM and CPU onboard...05:31
hurrianeverybody learned that lesson for the first time with Firewire, second time with Thunderbolt05:31
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DocScrutinizer05yeah05:59
DocScrutinizer05it's a total brainfuck to allow any peripheral to do DMA under own control06:01
hurrianyeah, especially considering most ARM CPUs post-CortexA9 _do_ have an IOMMU06:02
DocScrutinizer05[2017-07-27 Thu 16:13:50] <Joerg-Neo900> https://blog.exodusintel.com/2017/07/26/broadpwn/  a few lessons to learn: *) firmware blobs to upload are better than ROM or flash in wifi *) PCIe or any other interface that allows DMA control by peripheral is EVIL06:02
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brownale~flashing07:37
infobotsomebody said maemo-flashing was http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing07:37
brownale~lazyflashing07:44
infobotmethinks lazyflashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach07:44
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