IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2017-06-26

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kerioi think it's time13:20
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mike727Enquired about an advertised 'white 64gb N9' online. He said he hadn't any problems with it and hasn't been used for the past 3yrs, was about to seal the deal; then asked him to test cellular.15:26
mike727It seems that it doesn't recognise a working sim card. I asked him a few things, speculating about hardware or software issues.15:29
mike727He's quite sure it's just software related and offerered a discount. Asked him a few more questions and he hasn't respondered since.15:30
mike727It looks immaculate (as his description) apart from the chrome strip. Worth the risk for $80AUD  ??15:33
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sixwheeledbeast^Depends how much you want an N9 I suppose.16:00
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mike727hmm. Yeah, I shouldn't be greedy; I already x2  64gb black n9. Cheers.16:35
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DocScrutinizer05N9 not rally known to have hw issues with cellmo17:14
DocScrutinizer05however *might* be a mech-electrical issue with the "slot-in" SIM holder's contacts, particularly when somebody used a SIM in adapter frame17:15
sixwheeledbeast^I just wouldn't want an N9, not that I've used one. It just seemed the wrong direction at the time17:16
infobot , or "The purpose of this framework is: ... to make sure that the platform meets the requirements set by third party software that requires a safe execution environment.", or, or
DocScrutinizer05same here17:16
DocScrutinizer05~factinfo aegis17:17
infobotaegis -- created by DocScrutinizer <~halley@openmoko/engineers/joerg> at Sat Sep 24 21:21:15 2011 (2101 days); last modified at Sat Sep 24 21:21:22 2011 by DocScrutinizer!~halley@openmoko/engineers/joerg; it has been requested 137 times, last by sixwheeledbeast^, 19s ago.17:17
sixwheeledbeast^I understood competing with Android etc17:17
DocScrutinizer05Android is "better" - more closed and thus more open when rooted17:18
DocScrutinizer05while android has a hard shell, aegis sits everywhere inside that N917:18
DocScrutinizer05basically AIUI when you once cracked the shell / armor of a Android, it's pretty much similar to a "normal" linux, as far as Android can ever be normal linux. On HARM you only can crack the whole thing by implementing your own kernel17:20
DocScrutinizer05so from a security POV aegis > android security. For power users the relation gets reverted17:21
sixwheeledbeast^Point being coming from an N900 to an N9 would be a downgrade IMO.17:25
DocScrutinizer05it felt like that, yes17:27
DocScrutinizer05I used mine a 5 days17:27
sixwheeledbeast^Although at the moment moving to anything else is a downgrade :(  Even if it is more powerful and modern etc etc17:27
DocScrutinizer05now I should keep the pieces, and maybe even see if it possibly could get re-assembled17:28
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siceloi'm worried about what next after my n900 too18:36
siceloi've put up a few ads this side trying to get n900's in any condition for parts. no responses yet :-(18:37
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sixwheeledbeast^I have hardware spares for the future and I am still hopeful for the neo900 project.19:08
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infoboti guess ham is Hildon Application Manager.  Slow as molasses. Anticipate you got time for a beer or two until it finishes whatever it does, or see ~speedyham20:51
infobotsomebody said speedyham was 30 times faster than HAM, now included in CSSU.20:51
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siceloi'm on cssu-thumb, running kernel. now i'm trying to install replacement bme, and apt wants to install pk. i guess the depencies need adjusting there21:52
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sicelomaybe my understanding is wrong, but i think cssu3 kernel = pk53?21:55
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xesfreemangordon: so which is the plan for tls 1.2 https pages? :)22:19
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