| Maxdamantus | fwiw, when my connection is lost, I see timeouts in the syslog a few minutes beforehand | 00:11 |
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| Maxdamantus | But I think those timeouts sometimes appear when the connection isn't lost, so it's probably that 3G connection dying before it tries to establish 2G as doc said. | 00:12 |
| Maxdamantus | Jun 13 09:09:56 orcus daemon.notice cellular: csd[6666]: ISI_SMS .637686> ind_reg_status(): Net registration (ind) status:1 rc:0 | 00:13 |
| Maxdamantus | Jun 13 09:09:56 orcus daemon.notice cellular: csd[6666]: ISI_SMS .643881> set_timeout(): Timeout 759 s event type:-1 | 00:13 |
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| sicelo | yes that's always there | 00:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | you might try the non-global image. I have no particular clue which one image has a different modem firmware, except for the USA version | 01:47 |
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| buZz | does anyone have a tip for a maemo gps logger/dashboard thingy? i need to monitor bicycle speed | 11:38 |
| buZz | or eh, maybe some gps navigatin with path logging or something? | 11:43 |
| buZz | hmm | 11:43 |
| buZz | ugliest mount ever https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:10079 | 11:46 |
| KotCzarny | but could be quite functional | 11:47 |
| KotCzarny | i bet you won't find any better | 11:47 |
| buZz | hey KotCzarny ;) | 11:47 |
| buZz | i havent thusfar, no :P although i could maybe use one of the universal mounts | 11:48 |
| KotCzarny | btw. i have that n900, just didnt manage to swap screens to check/confirm it yet | 11:48 |
| buZz | oooo | 11:48 |
| buZz | \o/ | 11:48 |
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| juiceme | freemangordon, pong | 13:42 |
| juiceme | yes I think devlist is OK, have to check it. maemo-community is the list with most traffic | 13:43 |
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| buZz | is there something i need to do on CSSU to get gps lock to work? | 16:05 |
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| koval | hello | 16:12 |
| sicelo | a-gps? or non-assisted? | 16:12 |
| sixwheeledbeast | buZz: It's not CSSU issue the supl servers cert had expired IIRC. | 16:12 |
| koval | any one have the idea of radsecproxy | 16:12 |
| buZz | i mean the 'real' gps without network assistance | 16:13 |
| buZz | or would it just take ~verylong ? | 16:13 |
| sixwheeledbeast | If you stand outside for 15 minutes you should get a lock without A-GPS | 16:13 |
| buZz | alright | 16:13 |
| sicelo | buZz: put in a SIM card. without a working SIM it will almost nver work | 16:13 |
| buZz | i'll try longer :) | 16:13 |
| buZz | sicelo: oh dangit | 16:13 |
| buZz | i'll try longer anyway, without sim | 16:14 |
| sicelo | don't need to have gprs on .. but the sim must work :-) | 16:14 |
| sicelo | you'll wait forever | 16:14 |
| buZz | i have a lot of time :P | 16:14 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I had no issues with A-GPS disabled it just takes it's time to get the data required for a lock | 16:14 |
| sicelo | if you don't have sim it's very bad even if you have wifi | 16:15 |
| sicelo | with a sim and no data - about 3 minutes | 16:15 |
| sicelo | koval: no idea | 16:15 |
| sicelo | ~rrlp | 16:15 |
| infobot | RRLP is the Radio Resource LCS (Location Service) Protocol as specified first in GSM TS 04.31, or http://osmocom.org/projects/security/wiki/RRLP | 16:15 |
| koval | help for the following | 16:16 |
| sicelo | buZz: ^^ | 16:16 |
| bencoh | sicelo: iirc "someone" renewed it lately | 16:16 |
| koval | ./configure –enable-fticks | 16:16 |
| sicelo | yes cert is renewed | 16:16 |
| bencoh | woops. sixwheeledbeast ^ | 16:16 |
| koval | configure: WARNING: you should use --build, --host, --target | 16:16 |
| koval | configure: WARNING: invalid host type: –enable-fticks | 16:17 |
| koval | checking build system type... Invalid configuration `–enable-fticks': machine `–enable' not recognized | 16:17 |
| koval | configure: error: /bin/sh ./config.sub –enable-fticks failed | 16:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | There is still an issue, even if it has been renewed | 16:18 |
| sicelo | what issue? | 16:18 |
| buZz | sicelo: i so do not want this :P | 16:18 |
| buZz | > It allows the GSM network operator to obtain very precise location information about a mobile phone, | 16:18 |
| buZz | fuck them | 16:18 |
| buZz | :) | 16:18 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | I certainly don't get a lock on a few N900's | 16:19 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Even after cert was suppose to be renewed | 16:20 |
| sicelo | do you have the updated certman packages? | 16:22 |
| sixwheeledbeast | buZz: From experience I could open modRana, drive for 4-5 minutes and get a lock without A-GPS consistently. | 16:23 |
| sixwheeledbeast | certman? how updated? | 16:24 |
| buZz | sixwheeledbeast: without a working sim card in it? | 16:26 |
| sicelo | see the tmo thread. unfortunately i can't check the link for you | 16:27 |
| sixwheeledbeast | No, but A-GPS was disabled and GSM locked to 2G | 16:27 |
| buZz | hmm well | 16:28 |
| buZz | i'll see how succesfull i get .. worstcase i could just dig up a BT GPS module i guess | 16:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I recall this thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90651&page=7 | 16:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast | My data is on prompt only as no password is saved, hence 2G only. | 16:30 |
| sicelo | yes bt gps is prolly your best bet without sim | 16:31 |
| buZz | i wonder how the gps would work in native linux on the n900? | 16:31 |
| buZz | would it have the same sim-card dependancy? | 16:31 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | let me check this | 16:33 |
| sicelo | prolly. the problem is how the modem is connected to cpu | 16:33 |
| buZz | wg #bathory-dungeon | 16:34 |
| buZz | kak | 16:34 |
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| sicelo | anyway i'm not authority on this :-) | 16:38 |
| buZz | its cool, i appreciate your assistance even if not an expert :) | 16:38 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Ok so I have just tested with Wifi and SIM disabled and I have a lock in 10 minutes on an overcast day, not bad. | 16:45 |
| buZz | with sim removed? or just disabled | 16:54 |
| buZz | afaik disabled sims are still powered and active | 16:54 |
| buZz | just not exposed to user | 16:54 |
| Wizzup | sixwheeledbeast: without moving? | 16:58 |
| sixwheeledbeast | on window ledge without moving, disabled with set_radio false in terminal | 17:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I have now brought it back inside and lost GPS lock with wifi and 2G on, hence why I say A-GPS isn't working here | 17:01 |
| buZz | fyi , i got a fix! | 17:18 |
| buZz | with no sim , am inside , and no wifi | 17:19 |
| Wizzup | It can take a long time for me too, even with sim card in there. | 17:20 |
| sicelo | nice :-) | 17:20 |
| Wizzup | especially when I am walking. up to an hour | 17:20 |
| buZz | took ~15 minutes | 17:20 |
| buZz | guess i got lucky :) | 17:20 |
| sicelo | How long did it take? | 17:20 |
| sicelo | cool | 17:20 |
| buZz | now yay, i can record gps logs on my new bicycle \o | 17:20 |
| buZz | just need some mount for on steeringwheel | 17:20 |
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| Wizzup | buZz: well, I am in hong kong now, so perhaps that made it search for a longer time ... | 17:25 |
| buZz | :) next time bring your own gps sats! | 17:26 |
| Wizzup | I meant that it might assume a diff pos. but idk. | 17:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | buZz: make sure your system time is correct, disable a-gps in settings | 17:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | buZz: 15 min is about right | 17:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | downloading almanach takes iirc 12 min | 17:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | luck is only involved in that as far as you need uninterupted reception for those 12+x minutes or it starts again (though there are 'smarter' schemes that can get a fix in ~40s without downloading almanach, and dropouts in alm-dl could as well get fixed by a second additive download filling in the gaps) | 17:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | SIM is about ~rrlp, as sicelo(?) already hinted at | 17:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and of course about coarse location (country center) and correct time | 17:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | enabling a-gps while you actually don't have connectivity *may* cause the GPS system getting incorrect assistance data and never ever getting a fix | 18:01 |
| dreamer | kind of annoying that gsm assistance is needed for gps. I always thought it just wanted to download the maps | 18:09 |
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| freemangordon | dreamer: it is not really needed, it just speeds things up | 18:11 |
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| freemangordon | bencoh: https://github.com/community-ssu/libplayback | 18:17 |
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| dreamer | freemangordon: well, I would've assumed that gps by itself would be fast already. 15 mins to get a lock is quite slow. I wonder how normal gps devices do this then | 18:30 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: we have REed libplayback :) | 18:33 |
| Pali | nice! | 18:33 |
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| fladnag900 | Evening | 18:37 |
| fladnag900 | Good evening | 18:37 |
| fladnag900 | :) | 18:37 |
| bencoh | freemangordon: yay :) | 18:38 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: yeah. it would be nice if you find time and will to package it, I had enough of it as of now :) | 18:39 |
| freemangordon | Pali: ohmd is FOSS, right? | 18:40 |
| fladnag900 | May i ask for help ..i just installed japari for my n900 and the icon to start the app does not show anywhere ... :( :) What can i do ?? My knowledge of linux console things is verylimited | 18:40 |
| sicelo | what does libplayback do for us? | 18:40 |
| sicelo | fladnag900: yappari is no more | 18:41 |
| Pali | freemangordon: yes, there are ohmd sources | 18:41 |
| Pali | and some plugins too | 18:41 |
| freemangordon | sicelo: one more step to having upstream rebased maemo if your question is "why did you RE it" | 18:41 |
| freemangordon | Pali: ok, thanks | 18:41 |
| fladnag900 | Wuuaaat ?? | 18:41 |
| sicelo | fladnag900: yes, a year ago i think :-) | 18:42 |
| fladnag900 | I could install it and restartet as statet ...there is just no icon ... | 18:42 |
| freemangordon | fladnag900: ask your service provider why they started to ban everyone not using their official client | 18:42 |
| sicelo | if you want whatsapp, buy a supported device. | 18:42 |
| fladnag900 | Canyou tellme something .. Imean why and what sense does it make that its inthe repos? | 18:43 |
| fladnag900 | Why isit nmore please ? | 18:43 |
| sicelo | people kept installing it after being told not to .. so that was one way to force them to stop :-) | 18:44 |
| sicelo | s/install/us/ | 18:44 |
| infobot | sicelo meant: people kept using it after being told not to .. so that was one way to force them to stop :-) | 18:44 |
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| sicelo | freemangordon: i meant what is it used for? i guess somewhere in mediaplayer.. | 18:46 |
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| freemangordon | sicelo: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Architecture/Multimedia_Domain#libplayback | 18:47 |
| sicelo | thank you | 18:48 |
| fladnag900 | Ok :( Thanks evryone .. :) So no fukinwhatsapp forme :) ..im veryhappy with the n900 sofar notinterested inandroid orsomeothersh. :P | 18:48 |
| fladnag900 | This irc rocks :) goodnight peaceout | 18:49 |
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