IRC log of #maemo for Sunday, 2017-06-04

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freemangordonEnrico_Menotti: quilt needs QUILT_PATCHES=debian/patches to apply patches from there01:15
freemangordonEnrico_Menotti: also, please, when you report a problem, be more descriptive than "It doesn't build (something missing)"01:15
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Enrico_Menottifreemangordon ../gtk/.libs/libgtk-x11-2.0.a(gtkmarshalers.o): In function `_gtk_marshal_OBJECT__VOID':01:44
Enrico_Menottimarshalers.o:/root/gtk-original/gtk+-2.24.25/perf/marshalers.c:60: first defined here01:44
Enrico_Menotticollect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status01:44
Enrico_MenottiMakefile:531: recipe for target 'testperf' failed01:44
Enrico_Menotti(Sorry for having not been specific enough before.)01:45
Enrico_MenottiAlso, I forgot that environment variable for quilt, yes. Thanks for the advice. I will try tomorrow.01:45
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WikiwideFringe theme is an interesting one. Besides being blue, instead of yellow, it has different transitions, and even different size of thumbnails in window-switcher? Will see how it looks after reboot, because currently there may be bits and pieces of previous theme.07:10
WikiwideAlso, is it Modest or something else that decides, when replying to an email, split paragraph into short lines, each of them prefixed with '>' ? I don't mind the '>', but I would prefer to have only one such symbol per paragraph. Given differing screen sizes, it makes no sense to split paragraph into short lines.07:34
WikiwideAlbeit, I have an unusually long email on my hands, courtesy of Turnitin.07:41
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WikiwideI still don't understand why left-right (aka previous-next) scroll gestures don't work in Photos. I think they worked fine ... before Fringe theme was installed.14:22
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DocScrutinizer05((I don't mind the '>', but I would prefer to have only one such symbol per paragraph)) this is a standard that goes like "no line longer 72(?) chars, then a cr/newline. And in a quote ("XY wrote:...") each line starts with one ">" for each level of quote nesting15:08
DocScrutinizer05this "standard" is like 20 or more years old15:09
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DocScrutinizer05 page9 "Quoting" - first hit I ran into15:15
DocScrutinizer05>> All lines of a paragraph MUST be unquoted, or else they MUST all be quoted and have the same quote depth <<15:18
DocScrutinizer05it's arguable if nowadays all clients obey the even older line length (72?) maximum15:19
DocScrutinizer05they *SHOULD* (~2119), by using flowed lines ("<SPACE> CR LF") after each 72(?) chars incl quote (">>> ")15:25
infobotThe key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED",  "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119.15:25
DocScrutinizer05to answer wikiwide's question: yes it's modest that is responsible to implement RFC367615:27
DocScrutinizer05note how modest also is responsible to reformat flowed quoted lines according to screen width15:28
DocScrutinizer05that's the whole purpose of flowed lines, and one of the major objectives of RFC367615:30
DocScrutinizer05in times of HTML emails (what a bullshit idea, they all still end in spam here, unless they are multipart/alternative with plaintext) it seems it's getting less popular to support plaintext properly and taking care about stuff like the above explained15:32
DocScrutinizer05see "3.1.  Paragraph Text" in (dated 1999) for flowed text and paragraphs15:39
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DocScrutinizer05in former days programs (now apps) took pride in supporting RFCs and they listed on sales package all the specific RFCs they obeyed. Now developers don't even know what's a IETF-RFC15:50
DocScrutinizer05on a sidenote: even some wiki markup languages adopted flowed text concept, ending lines with a "<SPACE> cr" instead a plain cr to make a difference16:03
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