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| sixwheeledbeast | Sicelo: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nokia_N900 ? | 11:34 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I use tracklogs from modrana normally | 11:35 |
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| freemangordon | Sicelo: did you try if ovi maps works for you? As it looks like it works, though I would like somebody to confirm. | 19:32 |
| freemangordon | for the others as well ^^^ | 19:33 |
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| sicelo | freemangordon: yes Ovi Maps always worked for me :) | 20:26 |
| sicelo | you're mentioning in connection with? | 20:26 |
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| freemangordon | Sicelo: in connection with that renewed certificate | 21:28 |
| freemangordon | the point is that there was a time, at least here, when it was not downloading maps data | 21:29 |
| freemangordon | IOW it was working offline only | 21:29 |
| sicelo | yes A-GPS is working just fine | 21:30 |
| freemangordon | no, I mean map tiles download | 21:31 |
| freemangordon | and location search and all the other functionality | 21:31 |
| sicelo | i don't think map tiles works .. but location search has always worked | 21:32 |
| freemangordon | this is the point, it works :) | 21:32 |
| freemangordon | map tiles download that is | 21:32 |
| freemangordon | including sattelite and 3d view | 21:32 |
| sicelo | in Ovi Maps, or location widget? | 21:32 |
| freemangordon | both | 21:32 |
| sicelo | satelite has also always worked for me, as has location widget | 21:32 |
| sicelo | will try test in ovi maps tiles | 21:33 |
| freemangordon | but with offline maps in MyDocs, or downloaded online? | 21:33 |
| freemangordon | on as-needed basis? | 21:33 |
| sicelo | i have offline maps | 21:34 |
| sicelo | but they are just for 3 countries .. so i'll navigate to a country a bit farther and see | 21:34 |
| freemangordon | I am going to clean all ovi maps cache and retry | 21:35 |
| sicelo | okay .. that's even better test | 21:35 |
| freemangordon | just to be sure it is not some 5 years old data | 21:36 |
| sicelo | i don't want to mess with mine for now as they are really the only dependable maps i have (incredibly enough, in my area these old maps are more useful than google's online maps) | 21:36 |
| freemangordon | yeah, makes sense | 21:37 |
| sicelo | doesn't seem to be downloading for me .. i'll wait for your tests | 21:38 |
| sicelo | the last time i tested this, i noticed that ovi maps looks for the maps on different server whose name doesn't exist anymore. then i noticed that Ovi Suite 'knew' the updated dns name and could still get maps for N900. that was a while ago, and i don't even think Ovi Suite would still work | 21:40 |
| sicelo | about 2 years ago, if not 3 | 21:40 |
| freemangordon | hmm, seems I have copied all the offline maps data and forgotten about it | 21:40 |
| freemangordon | it is strange that location widget is able to get maps data | 21:41 |
| sicelo | yep | 21:41 |
| freemangordon | but not ovi maps | 21:41 |
| sicelo | and ovi can still get 3d data :D | 21:41 |
| sicelo | i think i ran strings on the binary back then, with obviously no success :p | 21:42 |
| freemangordon | I guess it is in the html | 21:42 |
| freemangordon | or some gconf setting | 21:42 |
| sicelo | not gconf | 21:42 |
| sicelo | i think i checked the html too .. but can't remember now | 21:43 |
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| freemangordon | and how it gets sattelite tiles then? | 21:43 |
| sicelo | s/3d/satellite/ | 21:43 |
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| sicelo | prolly different server? | 21:43 |
| freemangordon | doesn't make sense | 21:44 |
| * freemangordon checks | 21:44 | |
| sicelo | in the html is only the search URL (as Ovi Maps can't search locally) | 21:45 |
| freemangordon | do you remember the address ov map tiles server? | 21:46 |
| freemangordon | *of | 21:46 |
| sicelo | no. let me see if wireshark can help (some gate5 thing) | 21:46 |
| freemangordon | ok | 21:47 |
| sicelo | seems same as the satellite one | 21:48 |
| sicelo | download.linux.s2g.gate5.de | 21:48 |
| sicelo | here's my earlier tests: https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2015-09-13.log.html | 21:49 |
| sicelo | so Ovi Maps tries to get maps from the server already mentioned above, while location widget uses loc.desktop.maps.svc.ovi.com | 21:50 |
| freemangordon | did you try to replace that server in index.html? | 21:51 |
| sicelo | no. index.html only has the search server, which is different, | 21:52 |
| sicelo | where.s2g.gate5.de | 21:52 |
| freemangordon | mhm | 21:52 |
| sicelo | but yes that's a valid point about satellite imagery ... it's on the same server as the other tiles | 21:53 |
| * freemangordon is going to fire IDA against ovimaps | 21:53 | |
| sicelo | and i can't say the problem is tile versions .. because when i tested, Ovi Suite got the right tiles for N900 | 21:54 |
| freemangordon | which binary do you think it is? | 21:54 |
| sicelo | nokia-maps | 21:54 |
| freemangordon | hmm, it is 24k only | 21:55 |
| sicelo | /usr/bin/noki-maps i | 21:55 |
| freemangordon | yes, but I doubt it has any functionality in it | 21:55 |
| sicelo | liblocation probably :-/ | 21:55 |
| freemangordon | mhm | 21:57 |
| sicelo | by the way yesterday i found something that i thought would possibly be useful to RE ... it's not a standard maemo package, but at least according to the bug report, it can speak to the modem directly and clear its cache ... maybe it could be helpful for FPTF stuff, *shrugs* | 21:59 |
| sicelo | https://bugs.maemo.org/attachment.cgi?id=1839 .. the first attachment from bug 7026 | 22:00 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/7026 Can't get a GPS lock with several satellites at view | 22:00 |
| sicelo | The actual position engine as well as the GPS cache are inside cellmo, and | 22:00 |
| sicelo | hence it's not directly possible to clear cache from xterm. However here you | 22:00 |
| sicelo | have a little binary that does precisely this. Run it as root in xterm. | 22:00 |
| sicelo | anyway, one thing at a time - nokia-maps | 22:00 |
| freemangordon | hmm, it seems that nokia-maps is a dbus service which just launches index.html | 22:02 |
| dave_9911 | hey, I just booted Devuan at the n900, and looked around for a bit to find | (pipe). Do anybody know where its at? :) or how to remap keys? Thanks! | 22:02 |
| sicelo | dave_9911: https://wiki.maemo.org/Remapping_keyboard | 22:03 |
| sicelo | freemangordon: syslog shows location-daemon and location-proxy are the ones doing the work | 22:04 |
| sicelo | i think proxy is the one actually doing the communication | 22:05 |
| freemangordon | well, we have it REed iirc | 22:06 |
| * freemangordon checks | 22:06 | |
| freemangordon | https://github.com/community-ssu/nokiamaps-navigation-provider | 22:06 |
| sicelo | nice. but that's something else too | 22:08 |
| freemangordon | Sicelo: no, check this https://github.com/community-ssu/nokiamaps-navigation-provider/blob/master/nm-nav-provider.c#L1244 | 22:10 |
| freemangordon | or rather https://github.com/community-ssu/nokiamaps-navigation-provider/blob/master/nm-nav-provider.c#L1498 | 22:11 |
| sicelo | mmm | 22:12 |
| sicelo | but Ovi Maps does not seem to do a dns request for that | 22:13 |
| sicelo | let me check if location widget does | 22:13 |
| freemangordon | for sure I used location widget to test the REed code | 22:14 |
| sicelo | yes, widged does | 22:14 |
| sicelo | just confirmed | 22:14 |
| sicelo | Ovi Maps uses other means | 22:14 |
| freemangordon | doesn't make any sense, going to check though | 22:15 |
| sicelo | i'm interested to know what you'll find | 22:15 |
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| freemangordon | sure | 22:18 |
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| sicelo | bencoh: forgot to mention that we can also reverse geocode on N900 on nokia servers via dbus using the same framework as telepathy - where you can set it to show your location | 23:01 |
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| freemangordon | Sicelo: so far traces point to libatlas.so | 23:08 |
| sicelo | oh .. never heard of or seen that before. | 23:12 |
| sicelo | supplied by nokia-maps-core .. makes sense | 23:14 |
| bencoh | sicelo: wait, what? | 23:15 |
| bencoh | where does it show location? | 23:15 |
| bencoh | (I've never used nokia maps btw ... I'm not even sure it's still installed here) | 23:16 |
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| bencoh | (actually I might have launched it once or twice) | 23:16 |
| sicelo | it's been on tmo for a long time, and i tested (unsuccesfully) years ago. tested it again today and works. | 23:16 |
| sicelo | https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=66221 | 23:17 |
| sicelo | dumb me had not been looking at the right place first time for the dbus reply .. but it does work just fine. the one i had been using is (forward) geocoding via dbus, as it's not possible to put in coordinates in Nokia Maps (and many others, even on Android) | 23:18 |
| sicelo | for what i want to do, i think i'll still use OSM as registering a dbus service is beyond my abilities for now, and my needs are simple | 23:20 |
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| bencoh | it would be really cool though | 23:23 |
| bencoh | I wonder if marble already registers dbus services | 23:24 |
| bencoh | I don't think so ... | 23:24 |
| freemangordon | Sicelo: unfortunately this .so has all and the kitchen sunk statically linked int it :( | 23:29 |
| freemangordon | and it seems the address is hard-coded | 23:29 |
| freemangordon | I guess /etc/hosts will do the job | 23:29 |
| sicelo | i suspected so (the hard coding) | 23:29 |
| sicelo | i tried /etc/hosts that time .. didn't work | 23:30 |
| freemangordon | weird | 23:30 |
| freemangordon | anyway, going to have some sleep, night | 23:30 |
| sicelo | maybe can try with the location widget's address .. my tests earlier were using the address ovi suite was trying to reach | 23:30 |
| freemangordon | mhm | 23:31 |
| freemangordon | should work | 23:31 |
| sicelo | didn't because there were other parts in the URL that don't fit in /etc/hots | 23:31 |
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| sicelo | e.g. example.com/maps/files.htm moves to example3.com/files.htm .. or vice versa .. can't remove that /files/ :-( | 23:32 |
| sicelo | err .. you get the idea anyway | 23:33 |
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