IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2017-03-02

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jonwilYES, it works :)17:09
jonwilMy hacked up copy of Farhplan actually finds journeys (and the correct ones too)17:09
KotCzarny:)17:10
KotCzarnynow you should submit patches to farhplan and make them rebuild17:10
jonwilNo point submitting patches upstream, the upstream version (at http://fahrplan.smurfy.de/) is totally different codebase now and doesn't even support the N90017:16
jonwilthat homepage says "For old no longer maintained code of fahrplan (used on the N900 only) visit: https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/?root=fahrplan"17:16
KotCzarnyhuh17:16
KotCzarnyconvince them that n900 is alive and worthy?17:17
jonwilThe new version uses all sorts of QT stuff N900 doesn't have (QT components for one thing)17:19
jonwili.e. making it work on the N900 would be impossible17:19
KotCzarnyho-hum.17:19
inzKotCzarny, that convincing somehow reminds me of Dungeonmaster quote: "I reject your reality and substitute my own"17:20
KotCzarny;)17:20
KotCzarnymy n900 is definitely alive17:20
bencohjonwil: <317:20
jonwilI do intend to share with other N900 users though when I have something that doesn't suck so much17:21
jonwilI got more work to do first17:21
bencohjonwil: I actually wanted to do exactly that (patch farhplan with support other direction providers) and never actually got into the work17:21
bencohso many thanks :)17:21
jonwilWhat providers did you want to support exactly?17:21
bencohgoogle directions17:22
bencohand bus.co.il since this is where I live17:22
bencoh(but they don't have any open API so I had to reverse their app, somehow)17:22
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bencohI actually wanted to add support for google directions to marble, but ... meh :)17:23
jonwilI had to reverse engineer the website for Translink since the open API I wanted to use got discontinued before I even wrote code17:23
bencohnever had time to do that either17:23
bencohuhuh17:23
bencohso you're not using qjson in the end?17:24
jonwilyes I am17:24
jonwilI am using QJSON17:24
bencohah, you reverse their site javascript then17:24
jonwilThe web site uses QJSON internally17:24
bencohreversed*17:24
jonwilI mean JSON17:24
bencohyeah17:24
bencohwell, nice :)17:24
jonwilThere are 3 relavent URLs that return JSON when you send them HTTP POST data17:25
jonwilone takes a string and returns candidate locations (so if I type in "Beenleigh" it will return "Beenleigh Station" and "Beenleigh State School" and things like that17:25
jonwilone takes GPS coordinates and returns a location string17:25
jonwiland the third takes a bunch of info like location, date/time, settings for what sort of services to use (bus, train, tram, ferry, school bus, whatever) and some other stuff and returns a big JSON blob with the journeys it has found17:27
jonwilOne thing I need to do is to keep looking at the big JSON blob and see if there are any fields it returns that I dont currently do anything with that I should somehow use17:27
jonwilmost of its is no use though (e.g. fahrplan has no concept of "stops", just the different legs of the journey so all the stuff that gives details of individual stops is no use)17:29
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jonwilRight now the results page displays the from and to locations entered into the search box, the date of the search and for each possible journey it displays the type(s) of vehicles (train, bus, tram, ferry, walk) the journey uses, the number of transfers and the duration.17:32
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jonwilclicking an individual journey gives me the start and end points of the journey, the duration then for each leg of the journey, the route name (or for walking legs, the distance walked), the start stop, the start time, the end stop, the end time and the duration of that leg.17:33
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jonwilthe big problem I have is dealing with the fact that Translink has both a human readable name and an ID for a location so I need to find a non-hacky way (one that doesn't require all kinds of hacks and changes to the fahrplan codebasse) to handle this.17:41
jonwilI have a few things to try though that might work better than the hacks I have now17:41
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DocScrutinizer05http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=3875818:01
DocScrutinizer05dang, too late18:01
DocScrutinizer05http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=148087818:04
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DocScrutinizer05sigh! http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/fahrplan/0.0.33/ 4 of 618:10
KotCzarnymaybe just make requirement for initial vote/release18:18
KotCzarnyand updates should be free18:18
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timelessSo, someone pocket dialed my US Google Voice number and their butt left a message https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ofLTzFaD/18:52
timelessSimon Hesselberg Løvald -- anyone here recognize the name?18:52
timelessi don't think I know that many people in Norway...18:53
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KotCzarnysome uni teacher?18:56
* timeless wonders how someone could accidentally dial a 10 digit number (well 11 if you count the `+`)18:56
KotCzarnywrong copypaste?18:59
KotCzarnysomeone in the club giving him fake number?18:59
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KotCzarnyinteresting: https://sourceforge.net/p/crengine/feature-requests/169/19:27
KotCzarnydidnt know sf went evil way19:27
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totalizatorall these evil ads are enough for me20:17
totalizatorlike fake download banners20:18
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KotCzarnymy banana is playing music amd compiling oscp package, and eats whopping 2.5W at the moment20:28
KotCzarny(thats with integrated microamp already)20:28
KotCzarnys/amd/and/20:29
xesKotCzarny: banana? is it stable after all?20:30
KotCzarnyit was stable all the time20:30
totalizatorstop tempting me20:31
xesi still point at some of that orange pi pc pip p ples 2e something..20:31
KotCzarnyxes, what would you use it for?20:31
xesKotCzarny: usual connectivy mini server20:32
KotCzarnytotalizator: those little allwinner boxes are pretty nicely supported by community (mainline uboot and kernel, though new chips are a bit lagging as usual)20:32
KotCzarnyxes: how many drives you would want to connect to it?20:33
xesnone20:33
KotCzarnyo.o20:33
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xes..but i hate wait 2 months..20:34
KotCzarnyyou might start with some minimal board, opi0 or something (depends greatly if you need wifi or ethernet more)20:34
KotCzarnyxes, order from some local store then?20:35
KotCzarnyyou would pay more but should get faster20:35
KotCzarnyand there are usually clueless people buying them then not knowing it's a hacker board ;)20:35
KotCzarnyso you might browse local classifieds sites20:36
xes..eh..nope. no one cares to distribute them in eu20:37
KotCzarnysee 'local classifieds' part20:37
KotCzarnywhich country you live in ?20:37
KotCzarnyand if you want .eu based boards see olimex20:38
xesi will give another look..20:38
KotCzarnyit's european company that designs and produces own boards based on those socs20:38
KotCzarnyfun fact, one of the more popular 3d printers is using olimex boards as a cpu20:39
KotCzarnyoh wow, i though mouse gets eaten by default in osso-term, but apparently oscp is nicely working in it20:43
KotCzarnyoh, it's because of opened hwkb20:49
KotCzarnycan i convince osso-xterm not to open vkb when my ncurses app is running?20:49
KotCzarnyanyway, 0.9.68 upped.20:52
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DocScrutinizer05timeless: on a numeric keypad it seems surprisingly simple22:11
* timeless nods22:11
timelesshttps://aws.amazon.com/message/41926/ is interesting22:11
DocScrutinizer05[2017-03-01 Wed 08:41:15] <DocScrutinizer05> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/28/aws_is_awol_as_s3_goes_haywire/  haha22:14
enycbut but but but but but what will happen to get maemo.org services all ipv6-enabled???22:15
xessincerely?22:41
KotCzarnyhow many ipv6 ranges are in rbl/sspam lists?22:42
xesnoidea22:43
enycKotCzarny: similar scenariou to ipv4....  emali wise, fcrdns requirement is key, e.g. gmail insists on this now22:45
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