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| buZz | ah, ncmpc | 01:14 |
| buZz | \o/ | 01:14 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | flanger? as in flanger effect? | 01:41 |
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| Michael_a380 | Oksana: were you after the 64gh N9 on TMO? | 04:16 |
| Michael_a380 | Oksana: *64gb | 04:20 |
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| Juesto | she's not there btw | 04:34 |
| Juesto | Michael_a380: ^ | 04:35 |
| Michael_a380 | Juesto: Do you know how to contact her? The N9 may be a deal, she would not want to miss. | 04:36 |
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| Juesto | hmm, she has many devices already afaik, she is also not replying on PM, oksanaa is her phone Michael_a380 | 04:38 |
| Juesto | Okdon't know if she's looking but feel free to pm? | 04:39 |
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| Juesto | I'm sure she'll get back to you soon | 04:39 |
| Michael_a380 | Oksana = Wikiwide? Have just sent PM & email. | 04:40 |
| Juesto | s/okdon/i don/ | 04:40 |
| Juesto | Yes. | 04:40 |
| Juesto | sigh sed fail | 04:40 |
| Juesto | nice! | 04:41 |
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| Juesto | and I feel a bit bad for her | 04:42 |
| Juesto | nvm | 04:42 |
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| Michael_a380 | Juesto: Happen to know her real name? I could look her up in "White Pages". Can PM me: http://talk.maemo.org/member.php?u=72269 | 04:48 |
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| Juesto | why | 05:01 |
| Juesto | and yes | 05:01 |
| Juesto | Michael_a380 ^ | 05:02 |
| Juesto | (if that's Wikiwide) | 05:02 |
| Michael_a380 | Just found her name | 05:02 |
| Juesto | oh ok | 05:02 |
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| Juesto | it's on the email address anyway | 05:03 |
| Michael_a380 | Can't find anything, yet. Maybe it's not worth the risk, considering the seller only wants to use Western Union. | 05:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | chill! | 05:06 |
| Juesto | Australia | 05:07 |
| Juesto | Too bad | 05:07 |
| Juesto | hmm? | 05:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wut? | 05:07 |
| Juesto | I miss her.. :/ | 05:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | stop that | 05:08 |
| Michael_a380 | Only been a day | 05:08 |
| Juesto | why it's a problem? | 05:08 |
| Juesto | it's beyond one day | 05:08 |
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| Juesto | nevermind then | 05:08 |
| * Juesto sighs and tries to fall asleep | 05:09 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer05 is now known as lollita | 05:09 | |
| Michael_a380 | If only she was glued to her desk 24/7 | 05:09 |
| Juesto | nah | 05:09 |
| Juesto | :| | 05:10 |
| lollita | could you please stop stalking now? | 05:10 |
| Juesto | i am not a stalker | 05:10 |
| Michael_a380 | I feel guilty for buy an N9 last week, that she was looking at. She was gracious and let me buy it. | 05:11 |
| Juesto | wtf joerg | 05:11 |
| Michael_a380 | *buying | 05:11 |
| Michael_a380 | I'm the stalker | 05:11 |
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| Juesto | Michael_a380: because she doesn't want to increase the collection of unused devices | 05:12 |
| Juesto | too many already | 05:12 |
| Michael_a380 | can never have enough!! | 05:12 |
| Juesto | let's chill please | 05:12 |
| Michael_a380 | I'm all good. | 05:13 |
| Michael_a380 | ** :P | 05:13 |
| Juesto | Cleopatra is here, run! | 05:14 |
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| Juesto | why | 05:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | OT | 05:15 |
| Juesto | what was that | 05:16 |
| * Juesto is confused | 05:16 | |
| Michael_a380 | probably bipolar | 05:16 |
| Juesto | Hmmmmm | 05:16 |
| Juesto | strange | 05:16 |
| Michael_a380 | no offecnce | 05:16 |
| Juesto | bipolar or troll then ( no offense ) | 05:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | stop that! | 05:17 |
| * Juesto waves | 05:17 | |
| Michael_a380 | Has anyone here been scammed with online purchases (Western Union?)? | 05:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not on IRC | 05:18 |
| Michael_a380 | Sorry. This sort of chat not accepptable here? | 05:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Michael_a380: yours is | 05:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | as of lateky# | 05:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lately* | 05:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't tolerate female users getting harrassed | 05:21 |
| Juesto | is everything okay DocScrutinizer05 ? :s | 05:21 |
| Juesto | oh | 05:21 |
| Juesto | I am not harassing anyone for your information | 05:22 |
| Juesto | this is awkward | 05:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then stop it | 05:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | find a topic | 05:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or shut up | 05:23 |
| Juesto | apologies | 05:23 |
| Juesto | is maemo worth having? | 05:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 05:23 |
| Juesto | why | 05:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | because I use it every day | 05:24 |
| Juesto | since it's somewhat extinct given it's EOL | 05:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cmd: 04:24 up 86 days 13:10, 0 users, load average: 0,00, 0,01, 0,05 | 05:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /cmd ssh neo900 uptime | 05:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tell Juesto about cssu | 05:25 |
| Juesto | my win7 netbook I'm using right now has been up for 162 days | 05:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tell Juesto about fptf | 05:25 |
| Juesto | Interesting | 05:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | say hello to freemangordon and parazyd and Pali | 05:26 |
| Juesto | how i can contribute without a device? | 05:26 |
| Michael_a380 | Apologies. The topic was somewhat this post (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1522219&postcount=7 , althought the 1st direct mention of it). And I was trying to contact Oksana, to see if she was interested. | 05:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | good question | 05:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~fptf | 05:27 |
| infobot | hmm... fptf is the Fremantle Porting Task Force, see http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91308 | 05:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~sb | 05:27 |
| infobot | somebody said scratchbox was a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB | 05:27 |
| Juesto | Michael_a380: nothing wrong, he was talking to me i guess | 05:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | behace! n8! | 05:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 'behave' even | 05:28 |
| Juesto | DocScrutinizer05: what about testing stuff? better a device? | 05:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please rephrase | 05:29 |
| Juesto | for testing, should i get a device for better results or its "forced" | 05:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | absolutely! 'dry' practicing is boring :-) | 05:30 |
| Michael_a380 | I was thinking of updating some wiki pages, but it seems impossible for newbies to find them. | 05:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Michael_a380: HUH? | 05:30 |
| Juesto | as in it's impossible without a maemo device and just the sdk, correct? especially since SDK currently uses xephyr | 05:31 |
| Juesto | perhaps i can reconfigure the script to run on X directly | 05:31 |
| Michael_a380 | There has been a lot of wiki pages referenced in posts, that I never would have found via navigating the site. | 05:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you could develop comlplete apps on scratchbox, but the fun is way higher on real device | 05:32 |
| Juesto | true, apparently most stuff is buried in posts than being on a nice wiki | 05:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Michael_a380: pls elaborate | 05:32 |
| Juesto | not a coder sadly neither scripter | 05:32 |
| Juesto | know a little but i don't write | 05:33 |
| Juesto | can help with technical support and development testing | 05:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | get a cheap N900 (50 €) and have nore fun than with aby raspi | 05:33 |
| Juesto | the former goes to the end user | 05:34 |
| Juesto | Argentina here :s | 05:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ouch | 05:34 |
| Juesto | can try through | 05:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | contact wpwrak aka Almesberger for advice | 05:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~wiki werner almesberger | 05:35 |
| infobot | At https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Almesberger (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{Infobox person |name=Werner Almesberger |birth_date={{birth date and age|1967|8|13}} |birth_place = Zurich, Switzerland |occupation=Programmer |known_for=Linux Kernel, GCC |residence = Argentina |nationality = Austria |other_names=wpwrak }} 'Werner Almesberger' (born 13 August 1967) is an Austrian free software computer programmer and an open-source hardware ... | 05:35 |
| Juesto | LOL searching "maemo" gives me some boxers results at "MercadoLibre" | 05:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ? | 05:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | where in .ar do you live? | 05:38 |
| Michael_a380 | I'm probably just lazy with searching. I remember just recently seeing a link to joerg's wiki about ' ~post n900 flashing tips'. I wish I had that at the start. It's sad about all the complaints TMO gets, when there are so many positives. | 05:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools | 05:38 |
| infobot | i heard jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools | 05:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~lf | 05:39 |
| infobot | from memory, #maemo lazyflashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach | 05:39 |
| Juesto | http://i.imgur.com/nSWXID7.jpg | 05:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | failed to decode the last part, about tmo | 05:39 |
| Juesto | DocScrutinizer05: Buenos Aires, capital | 05:40 |
| Michael_a380 | Yes, jrtools, thanks. To summarise, the problem is that I'm a noob. | 05:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you can meet Werner for a beer, every day | 05:40 |
| Juesto | http://Mercadolibre.com.ar | 05:40 |
| Juesto | Interesting | 05:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | he *loves* beer ;-) | 05:40 |
| Juesto | are the others you mentioned in arg too? hmm | 05:41 |
| Juesto | idk actually | 05:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | whom else I mentioned? | 05:41 |
| Juesto | Above... nvm | 05:41 |
| Juesto | *sigh* | 05:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /whois wpwrak | 05:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /join neo900 | 05:43 |
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| Juesto | even more above actually but ty anyway | 05:43 |
| Juesto | I'll check out tomorrow | 05:43 |
| Juesto | I can't sleep :/ | 05:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oooh pali and fmg ? | 05:43 |
| enyc_ | Juesto: =) i woke up early ;p | 05:43 |
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| Juesto | yes | 05:43 |
| Juesto | haha nice | 05:43 |
| Juesto | it's midnight here | 05:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | they are our principal fremantle developers | 05:44 |
| Juesto | community, right? | 05:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 4:44:44 here | 05:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | AM | 05:45 |
| Juesto | or are any ex-nokia-maemo developers still working? | 05:45 |
| Juesto | ..and contributing | 05:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | CET if I wasn't in JRTZV | 05:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, some are still around | 05:46 |
| Juesto | nice | 05:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though not exactly 'working' | 05:46 |
| Juesto | nobody from the sdk stuff? because I'm looking for improving the sdk vm... | 05:47 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 would count timeless as 'ex Nokia' | 05:47 | |
| Juesto | especially xephyr maemo hildon | 05:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ((looking for improving the sdk)) go ahead, ask if any questions | 05:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~sb | 05:48 |
| infobot | hmm... scratchbox is a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB | 05:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~lf | 05:49 |
| infobot | i heard #maemo lazyflashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach | 05:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools | 05:49 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools | 05:49 |
| Juesto | Yes, why xephyr wouldn't run properly if i try something else besides the designated shortcut on the desktop | 05:49 |
| * timeless is definitely ex-nokia | 05:49 | |
| timeless | why am i being counted? | 05:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | definitely EX ? :-D | 05:49 |
| Juesto | ex-maemo dev? | 05:49 |
| Juesto | :D | 05:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | timeless: sorry for highlight | 05:50 |
| timeless | it's ok, it isn't even midnight yet | 05:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 4:50 here | 05:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and almost drunk | 05:50 |
| * timeless is currently fighting macOS sierra, "SIP", brew, Qt5, keepassxc, and a number of other circles of hell | 05:50 | |
| * timeless is mostly winning in battles w/ zabbix and certbot | 05:50 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ouch | 05:51 |
| * timeless is definitely loosing battles w/ powerdns | 05:51 | |
| Juesto | looks overwhelming | 05:51 |
| timeless | well... i'm the IT guy | 05:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hope you also know about fun in lofe | 05:51 |
| timeless | so i inherited a lot of systems w/ odd configurations | 05:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | life, even | 05:51 |
| timeless | 1 -- lots of certificates from random CAs w/ random price tags and random levels of validity/security | 05:52 |
| timeless | solution: replace w/ letsencrypt | 05:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tell Juesto about fptf | 05:52 |
| timeless | most certs are used for https which is easy | 05:52 |
| timeless | some are used for mail on accessible systems which isn't painful | 05:52 |
| timeless | some are used on internal systems that aren't really friendly (hello apc appliance) | 05:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91142 | 05:52 |
| timeless | cute | 05:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /hoin neo900 | 05:53 |
| timeless | oh, amusingly the shirt i'm wearing today... | 05:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /join neo900 | 05:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry | 05:53 |
| timeless | "If you're Qt, | 05:53 |
| timeless | I'm open." | 05:53 |
| timeless | (yesterday's shirt was a mercurial shirt) | 05:53 |
| timeless | oh... today's adventure... | 05:53 |
| timeless | i fought w/ osx, dnsmasq, powerdns over ipv6 | 05:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.crowdsupply.com/raptor-computing-systems/talos-secure-workstation/updates/the-state-of-owner-controlled-computing-as-talos-winds-down?utm_source=Talos+Supporters&utm_campaign=19545976d2-talos_update_winds_down_2017_01_09&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_451951d5fa-19545976d2-112395773 | 05:54 |
| timeless | a mac here did a dns lookup (ipv4) and a dns lookup (ipv6) for a name | 05:54 |
| timeless | dnsmasq found the name in /etc/hosts and offered the ipv4 local-network address | 05:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/ | 05:54 |
| timeless | but it didn't have an ipv6 address, so it deferred to the public internet | 05:54 |
| timeless | which then found a cname to an ipv4 public address which dnsmasq returned | 05:55 |
| timeless | unfortunately, the public address wasn't expecting that traffic | 05:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | www.neo900.org | 05:55 |
| Michael_a380 | Has anyone played splix.io ? can be a bit of a stress reliever, if there is no lag. | 05:55 |
| timeless | so ~50% of the time http requests worked (going to the local computer) | 05:55 |
| timeless | and ~50% of the time they failed (going to the public computer based on the AAAA lookup which found a CNAME to an A record...) | 05:55 |
| timeless | technically i've still lost on this front,... since i can't figure out how to get dnsmasq not to pass the query along | 05:56 |
| timeless | but i removed the CNAME, so now the only record returned is the local A ... | 05:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Michael_a380: read the links I provided and you need more than that for 'stress relieve' | 05:56 |
| Michael_a380 | In other words, "Grow up, Michael_a380". | 05:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pr you're in wrong chan | 05:57 |
| timeless | Michael_a380: hrm, i killed myself? | 05:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not 'grow up', but 'WAKE UP' | 05:58 |
| Michael_a380 | timeless: I get hysterical when I kill a massive guy | 05:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | either you're the paying customer, or you're the monetized product | 05:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hystorical raisins? | 06:00 |
| Michael_a380 | Going to remove a sim from an android, and put it in a newly acquired N9. Any use for the Android? | 06:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm good question | 06:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | better question: how to keep N9 (aka HARM) alive | 06:02 |
| timeless | grr, no crossing self sucks | 06:02 |
| Michael_a380 | ..... so just never connect it to wifi? Should probably just sell it (android). Mother wasted 220aud on it. | 06:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I got a cat S60, just for eval | 06:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | android sucks donkey balls | 06:05 |
| enyc | hrrm talk.maemo.org still missing ipv6 | 06:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | today I bought a VR goggle, just to learn the cat S80 is 1mm too thick | 06:06 |
| Michael_a380 | timeless: another one is http://slither.io/ . Don't bother collecting the little dots, go to the center & kill the big fellas. | 06:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | enyc: whole maemo.org prolly missing ipv6 | 06:06 |
| enyc | DocScrutinizer05: can i help with this? I'm good at that sort of thing... | 06:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and tmo will be the very last to support it | 06:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | enyc: ask warfare | 06:07 |
| Michael_a380 | timeless: both games are susceptible to a zoom hack, that many people seem to use. | 06:07 |
| Michael_a380 | * which is annoying, I won't lie, I tried it once or twice. | 06:08 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 waves and heads out. Juesto don't miss to have a beer with Werner! | 06:09 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | he's a particularly nice guy | 06:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and how often you got a chance to meet one of linux' early architects | 06:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (even when it's 'only' lilo and dos) | 06:13 |
| * enyc recalls LOADLIN'ing | 06:14 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hehehe | 06:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | don't know if he created that too | 06:14 |
| enyc | there was a time i was using the sound-card dos-driver to turn on the PATA interface on a soundcard, then loading linux that used that for a filesystem, or something | 06:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | n8 folks | 06:15 |
| Michael_a380 | What VR type? Obviously not facebook. | 06:15 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 stares at /msg chanserv acces #maemo list in disbelief | 06:17 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen stskeeps | 06:18 |
| infobot | stskeeps <~cvm@unaffiliated/stskeeps> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 771d 7h 23m 4s ago, saying: '.. i presume that was it, chem|st?'. | 06:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen andre__ | 06:19 |
| infobot | andre__ <~andre__@wikimedia/aklapper> was last seen on IRC in channel #gsoc, 13d 16h 18m 30s ago, saying: 'I don't think that question is related to GSoC or GCI? Maybe ask in a Chrome forum or channel? :)'. | 06:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen dneary | 06:19 |
| infobot | i haven't seen 'dneary', DocScrutinizer05 | 06:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen CrashandDie | 06:19 |
| infobot | i haven't seen 'crashanddie', DocScrutinizer05 | 06:19 |
| Michael_a380 | ~seen Waldo | 06:20 |
| infobot | waldo <~Waldo@unaffiliated/wallabyjenkins-/x-8450033> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 269d 3h 29m 56s ago, saying: 'No'. | 06:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen X-Fade | 06:20 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i haven't seen 'x-fade' | 06:20 |
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| Michael_a380 | ~seen MH17 | 06:21 |
| infobot | i haven't seen 'mh17', Michael_a380 | 06:21 |
| Michael_a380 | Thanks for links, Doc | 06:34 |
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| Juesto | nah DocScrutinizer05 I dont drink smoke or takie drugs | 06:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so? | 06:41 |
| Michael_a380 | Going to pick-up the N9 in an hour or 2. Hope the gamble was worth it and it aint stuffed. | 06:41 |
| Juesto | just saying | 06:42 |
| Michael_a380 | Juesto: me too :) .... or maybe in Doc's eyes: :( | 06:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | stop using me as an excuse for lacks in your life! | 06:43 |
| Juesto | lel | 06:44 |
| Michael_a380 | I'm not. And I'm not going to bring up Hitler, either. | 06:44 |
| Juesto | *sigh* i hope i scrollback doesn't go over (hoping not much talking here) | 06:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm telling you about solcialicing opportunities. If you feel like an eremite... not my problem | 06:45 |
| Michael_a380 | hope that was not too far, (joke) | 06:45 |
| Juesto | maybe i should enable conference mode in chatzilla, max 600 of temporal lines | 06:45 |
| Michael_a380 | My Uncle was pretty irate when I would not drink with him :( | 06:46 |
| Juesto | gah I'll just pull this from irclog | 06:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe U should stop worrying about other peoples' problems | 06:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | *I* | 06:47 |
| Michael_a380 | I don't see any problems. | 06:47 |
| Michael_a380 | oh | 06:47 |
| Michael_a380 | Yeah, you care too much, Doc. | 06:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I see people telling me about their DOs and DONTs, and that's of course a problems making this 'convo' happen | 06:48 |
| Michael_a380 | :p | 06:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hell, I'm like a few 1000 miles away from buenos aires, and when I twll two people they live mayve a 10km max apart from each other, ... why the heck I'm doing that?! | 06:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | prolly my stocks will skyrocket | 06:52 |
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| * timeless sighs | 09:50 | |
| timeless | so, the galaxy nexus i'm using spontaneously reboots -- i think the cellular stack is crashing -- when it comes back, i don't seem to have cellular data -- rebooting again fixes that | 09:50 |
| timeless | my blackberry passport doesn't like the idea of charging when it's plugged in, and likes the idea of showing a charging icon when it isn't plugged in | 09:51 |
| timeless | the passport behavior reminds me of the "good old days" @nokia :-( | 09:51 |
| KotCzarny | reflash? ;) | 09:54 |
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| timeless | the passport problem is the classic "usb port is dying" | 10:16 |
| KotCzarny | kinda happy to hear n900 isnt the only one with the problem | 10:17 |
| warfare | enyc: IPv6 is something I want to tackle this year, at least for the webservers. Need to talk to our provider, but this shouldn't be an issue. | 10:17 |
| timeless | having lost at least one usb port on an n900... | 10:17 |
| timeless | the nexus ... well... fixing the cellular side of things wasn't easy for non corporate users iirc | 10:18 |
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| bencoh | ncmpc <3 | 10:25 |
| bencoh | (woops, nevermind, lost in backlog) | 10:25 |
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| * Maxdamantus usually uses qmpc on N900, but sometimes uses ncmpc for better playlist manipulation. | 10:30 | |
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| enyc | warfare: yes, start asking the question now at least, gauge quality of response | 11:40 |
| enyc | warfare: be wary of being the ''first'' ipv6 customer sort of scenario | 11:40 |
| warfare | enyc: IPHH has v6 all over the place. :) | 11:40 |
| warfare | enyc: host iphh.net | 11:40 |
| enyc | warfare: =) | 11:40 |
| warfare | enyc: Actually it's just a matter of "Get 2 /64's, get it routed and configure firewalling. | 11:41 |
| enyc | warfare: but what about reverse dns? critical if sending outgoing emails in particular | 11:42 |
| warfare | enyc: I send them the zonefile for the reverse lookups. IPHH is pretty hands-on about this. | 11:42 |
| enyc | okies | 11:43 |
| enyc | in which case matching ipv4 static addressing with similar ipv6 static addressing may be best approach//plan | 11:43 |
| enyc | with ipv6 static gatewaying | 11:43 |
| warfare | SLAAC is always a bad idea for server networks :) | 11:43 |
| enyc | (unless the ipv4 scenario is a 'messy crunch' and there is good reason to spread out in ipv6, treating ipv4 as legacy access only) | 11:44 |
| enyc | warfare: even without SLAAC, stateless / RA to pickup gateway can be used... | 11:44 |
| warfare | enyc: :) I've been doing IPv6 deployments for 10 years now, maemo.org just wasn't priority. | 11:45 |
| enyc | i am wondering what will happen with hosting-providers and ipv4-allocations in general tho | 11:45 |
| enyc | if there will be more of a crunch there sort of thing | 11:45 |
| enyc | sooner-or-later TLS SNI will be 'assumed' and all those ipv4-addresses for separate SSL hosts won't be needed anywhere near as much | 11:46 |
| warfare | enyc: Expect to pay premium for IPv4 adresses, but there is still a lot of unused space. "Lots of SSL" isn't an argument for getting IPv4 space from RIPE. Also, most access providers are already doing CGNAT for IPv4 or something like DSLite. | 11:47 |
| enyc | warfare: 'access providers' meaning 3g/4g/mobile sorts? | 11:47 |
| warfare | enyc: cable, DSL. Mobile is doing CGNAT since the beginning of mobile data service. | 11:48 |
| enyc | warfare: oh hrrm im not used to that but ok | 11:48 |
| warfare | Basically, if you have cable internet in Germany at the moment you're not getting a public IPv4 address. | 11:49 |
| enyc | and how widespread is ipv6 on german cable? | 11:49 |
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| warfare | Pretty much. | 11:49 |
| warfare | According to Google, Germany has nearly 30% IPv6 adoption. Which also owns to Deutsche Telekom forcing everyone onto their new Triple-Play network which comes with IPv6 enabled as standard. | 11:51 |
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| buZz | man, i dont know what dosbox build i have installed atm | 11:54 |
| buZz | but its slow beyond believe | 11:54 |
| buZz | apt-get install build-essentials and build my own? :D | 11:55 |
| bencoh | I have a build around | 11:56 |
| bencoh | not sure it'd be much faster though | 11:56 |
| bencoh | I played with optim iirc | 11:56 |
| bencoh | http://muarf.org/~bencoh/maemo/dosbox_0.74+svn3858-0maemo4_armel.deb | 11:56 |
| buZz | https://github.com/torch/optim ? | 11:56 |
| buZz | ah, ty, i'll try it out | 11:56 |
| bencoh | not sure which one this is | 11:56 |
| bencoh | you might want to have a look at http://muarf.org/~bencoh/maemo/dosbox-bitu-memcpy and http://muarf.org/~bencoh/maemo/dosbox | 11:57 |
| buZz | what are those,. binaries? | 11:57 |
| bencoh | the latter is probably not relevant considering mtime | 11:57 |
| bencoh | I guess | 11:57 |
| buZz | :P | 11:57 |
| bencoh | that was 2 years ago :) | 11:57 |
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| KotCzarny | dos was 30 years ago :P | 11:59 |
| bencoh | oh well, looks like I'm using another one from 2015/01/11 | 12:03 |
| freemangordon_ | buZz: BTW, there should be some -thumb dosbox on TMO, iirc I compiled it out of curiosity | 12:04 |
| bencoh | no idea what's the difference though | 12:04 |
| bencoh | maybe just -O3 instead of -O2 | 12:05 |
| bencoh | freemangordon_: I doubt it runs faster though :) | 12:06 |
| KotCzarny | i usually add compile options to file name when doing optimization builds ;) | 12:06 |
| bencoh | I wonder why --disable-opengl | 12:06 |
| bencoh | maybe they used an API that maemo isn't compatible with(?) | 12:06 |
| buZz | it uses opengl for scaling | 12:06 |
| buZz | no need for that on our screen | 12:07 |
| bencoh | hmmkay | 12:07 |
| bencoh | that's assuming dosbox renders at native screen | 12:07 |
| bencoh | which I doubt, but anyway | 12:07 |
| bencoh | native res* | 12:07 |
| buZz | it does kinda look very good | 12:07 |
| buZz | i mean, sharp | 12:07 |
| freemangordon_ | bencoh: iirc it WAS faster, maybe because of the newer gcc | 12:08 |
| KotCzarny | pixel doubling then | 12:08 |
| bencoh | freemangordon_: haha | 12:08 |
| bencoh | freemangordon_: intrinsics? | 12:08 |
| freemangordon_ | no idea it was a while ago :) | 12:10 |
| freemangordon_ | bencoh: re --disable-opengl - n900 doesn't have opengl ;) | 12:10 |
| bencoh | which one do we have then? | 12:11 |
| KotCzarny | opengles | 12:11 |
| bencoh | dont we have one of the *gl api? | 12:12 |
| KotCzarny | GLES | 12:12 |
| freemangordon_ | what KotCzarny said | 12:12 |
| bencoh | ah | 12:12 |
| freemangordon_ | or rather GLES2 | 12:12 |
| KotCzarny | you can try glshim and enable opengl in dosbox | 12:12 |
| KotCzarny | and compare the framerates | 12:12 |
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| bencoh | indeed | 12:13 |
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| Wizzup | bencoh: yes, one of the big downsides of blob drivers for arm is that they never seem to do opengl, only opengles | 13:24 |
| Wizzup | bencoh: the open source ones usually do opengl (freedreno, etc) | 13:24 |
| Wizzup | re: dosbox, you want the dosbox with arm jit patches | 13:24 |
| NeKit | I think NVIDIA Tegra drivers do OpenGL on Android | 13:26 |
| Wizzup | Yes, true. NVIDIA as well | 13:26 |
| Wizzup | But not: mali, vivante, adreno, what have you | 13:26 |
| Wizzup | There is glshim, for basic opengl using opengles | 13:27 |
| NeKit | hm, parts of glshim could be probably used to provide glx on top of Android drivers if that's ever needed | 13:28 |
| Wizzup | if android used X... | 13:31 |
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| bencoh | Wizzup: re dosbox, I think that's the one I used but ... that was 2yo, so, I don't really remember | 13:52 |
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| NeKit | not in Android, in Linux | 14:26 |
| bencoh | NeKit: true | 14:30 |
| bencoh | well, maybe | 14:31 |
| Juesto | Android has a certain linux userland | 14:31 |
| Juesto | mostly cli tools | 14:31 |
| Juesto | uses surfaceflinger instead of x, a system server, zygote and GLES | 14:32 |
| Juesto | booting is similar to Linux | 14:32 |
| buZz | 12:24:59 < Wizzup> re: dosbox, you want the dosbox with arm jit patches | 14:34 |
| buZz | -yes- | 14:34 |
| buZz | i was trying to run some 1996 dos demo program, it ran slower than a 8088 would do | 14:35 |
| buZz | :P | 14:35 |
| bencoh | huhu | 14:35 |
| enyc | buZz: even if you turn up cpucycles etc.? | 15:02 |
| buZz | i didnt edit the doxbox.conf a lot yet, but it looked to be configured for 'auto' | 15:04 |
| enyc | buZz: theres some stantard ctrl+f?something? key you press to increase/decrease cpucycles | 15:06 |
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| ynzinier | Hi, I have a problem with my update to an app in python. When I start it from terminal everything works fine, when from system menu - there is no text in some table cells | 18:30 |
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| ynzinier | Does anyone know how to solve problem I've described ? | 19:38 |
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| Vajb | just noticed that we have libwebp which rdepends on pidgin telegram. Does this mean that pidgin should be able to show .webp images? | 20:11 |
| Vajb | and if yes, why it doesn't for me? | 20:12 |
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| Juesto | maybe it's for something else Vajb? | 22:30 |
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| Vajb | Juesto: don't ask me. Im just guessing here | 22:46 |
| Vajb | trying to figure out how to view those telegram stickers under maemo | 22:47 |
| Vajb | so far none of the image viewers r cabable of showing them | 22:47 |
| Vajb | how ever | 22:47 |
| Vajb | apt-cache search libwebp | 22:48 |
| Vajb | libwebp - Lossy compression of digital photographic images. | 22:48 |
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| KotCzarny | now find packages depending on that lib | 22:51 |
| Vajb | Depends: libc6 Depends: libgcc1 | 22:55 |
| KotCzarny | no, reverse depends | 22:56 |
| Vajb | Reverse Depends: purple-protocol-telegram libwebp-dev | 22:57 |
| KotCzarny | so you have answer now | 22:59 |
| Vajb | so in my common sense it should use it? | 22:59 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 22:59 |
| Vajb | hmm still .webp images r shown as red x | 23:00 |
| KotCzarny | maybe its an old library? | 23:00 |
| Vajb | i was guessing that maybe it is because as default purple-protocol-telegram is installed to / and i moved it to /home/user/.purple/plugin as suggested? | 23:01 |
| Vajb | so i made symlink in / pointing to it | 23:03 |
| Vajb | didn't get chance to try if it worked, yet | 23:03 |
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| Vajb | well we have 0.5.0-1 and there seems to be at least 0.5.2 out | 23:26 |
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