IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2016-11-18

sixwheeledbeastThe two letters thing being ISO 316601:07
DocScrutinizer05never heard01:10
freemangordonI doubt, isn't that iso standard for country codes etc, not timezones?01:10
DocScrutinizer05is this maybe along DE_de, just using half of it?01:11
L29Ahmaybe it needs to make a guess on timezone given the user picked a language?01:11
* DocScrutinizer05 never groked what's the meaning of left and right side of _01:11
L29Ahleft is language, right is country01:12
DocScrutinizer05en_US, en_GB01:12
freemangordondoesn't make sense to me, what vould DE+0200 mean?01:12
DocScrutinizer05"...and converts it to GMT+/-offset format"01:12
L29AhGMT+4? ;)01:12
* L29Ah doesn't have TZ in his env01:13
freemangordonno, that would become GMT-0200 if I read the code correctly01:13
freemangordonso it is a kind of "reverse GMT" zone01:13
DocScrutinizer05offset DST?01:13
freemangordontwo letters, mind you. and those letters are not checked for anything, but isalpha()01:14
DocScrutinizer05see GSM network time maybe? though that's in 15min increments iirc01:15
freemangordonanyway, it seems that will remain a mystery :)01:15
freemangordonhmm, maybe it is some GSM stuff01:15
DocScrutinizer05are you sure the offset is in "hours"01:16
DocScrutinizer05GSM local time message has a pretty weird format01:18
sixwheeledbeastDE+0200  I would read as Germany plus 2 hours from UTC, which would be correct in the summer?01:23
DocScrutinizer05no idea really. It doesn't do any math or table lookup etc at all, afaict01:23
DocScrutinizer05I think so01:23
DocScrutinizer05sorry, totally out of ideas01:33
DocScrutinizer05it obviously sets an env var01:33
DocScrutinizer05it sets it to the unmangled input parameter string01:34
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DocScrutinizer05then it does tzset() (without parameters!) whatever that does01:35
DocScrutinizer05TZSET(3)  ?01:36
DocScrutinizer05extern char *tzname[2]01:36
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: ^^^01:36
DocScrutinizer05" The std string specifies the name of the timezone and must be three or more alphabetic characters.  The offset string immediately follows std and specifies the time value  to  be        added to the local time to get Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) "  No Friggin Clue really01:39
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DocScrutinizer05tzfile(5)  have fun!01:52
DocScrutinizer05>> If the TZ variable does not appear in the environment, the tzname variable is initialized with the best approximation of local wall clock time, as specified by the tzfile(5)-for-        mat file localtime found in the system timezone directory (see below).  (One also often sees /etc/localtime used here, a symlink to the right file in the system  timezone  direc-        tory.)<<01:53
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon:  one thing's for sure: this function expects sth like "DE+95463465" in const char *tz  and it used exactly this string for setenv("TZ"...). Then it calls tzset() which I guess is man 3 tzset02:02
DocScrutinizer05if the format of const char *tz is not a "+" or "-" in 3rd charm then this whole function does zilch02:04
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: if the format of const char *tz is not a "+" or "-" in 3rd char, then this whole function does zilch02:04
DocScrutinizer05so you need to find out what tzset() is supposed to do with "DE+95463465", to start with02:05
DocScrutinizer05odds are Nokia patched tzset() to do sth weird02:09
DocScrutinizer05I mean maemo has no LANG=C, just for an example how fsckdup it is02:10
DocScrutinizer05prolly they messed up elsewhere and then fix it in tzset()02:10
Maxdamantus`char *[2]` is an array of two `char *`s02:32
Maxdamantusnothing to do with two chars.02:32
MaxdamantusWhen I do `tzset`, it stores a timezone in each of `tzdata[0]` and `tzdata[1]`, one for daylight saving, one for standard time.02:37
Maxdamantus"NZST", "NZDT"02:37
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brolin_empeyjonwil: ’lo.14:00
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bencohwow, maintainance14:58
warfareyes, we'll break everything tomorrow.14:59
bencohgood luck :)15:01
KotCzarnydo you have a backup?15:01
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warfareKotCzarny: Yes :)16:02
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raphaDocScrutinizer05: after running around with a phone that had a huge 2.5Ah battery attached to its back with insulating tape, i've decided to wait for the new battery to arrive because i do value my freedom a lot.22:10
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DocScrutinizer05long reboot ....22:22
DocScrutinizer05warfare: good luck!22:22
DocScrutinizer05where the heck is "maintenance" announced?22:23
DocScrutinizer05ooh, new thread:
DocScrutinizer05the problem with new threads: usually nobody signed in for mail notifications on them ;-)22:25
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