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| rapha | hi | 00:00 |
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| chatter | allah is doing | 00:21 |
| chatter | sun is not doing allah is doing | 00:22 |
| chatter | moon is not doing allah is doing | 00:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Sigyn: thanks a lot! :-) | 00:32 |
| Oksana | Huh, these C&D troll lawyers haven't invested into Optical Character Recognition yet? | 00:41 |
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| rapha | hmm | 01:50 |
| rapha | Interesting topics in here ... God, the Universe and Everything :) | 01:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hm? | 02:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Oksana: I hope they didn't :-) | 02:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also it won't help unless they also develop highly sophisticated AI | 02:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/dirsnapshot.png alone doesn't help a lot yet | 02:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | rapha: btw you can get help with bootloop and other N900 stuff here as well | 04:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | interesting finding that a wrong BSI can result in bootloop :-) | 04:41 |
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| rapha | DocScrutinizer05: thank you! | 05:01 |
| rapha | well, without Joerg's help i would have never even been able to guess at something like that | 05:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~joerg | 05:02 |
| infobot | i heard joerg is a natural born EE, ex HW-developer and engineer of Openmoko. Usually known as DocScrutinizer. Initiator of http://neo900.org | 05:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo bootloop | 05:03 |
| infobot | there's no such factoid as bootloop, DocScrutinizer05 | 05:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dang | 05:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo #maemo bootloop | 05:03 |
| infobot | #maemo bootloop -- created by DocScrutinizer05 <~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg> at Thu Oct 3 14:52:17 2013 (1140 days); last modified at Sat Dec 7 00:45:24 2013 by DocScrutinizer05!~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg; it has been requested 31 times, last by Joerg-Neo900, 27m 24s ago. | 05:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | first thing you'll need: | 05:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~repos | 05:04 |
| infobot | from memory, repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories, or see ~jrrepos | 05:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrrepos | 05:04 |
| infobot | well, jrrepos is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ | 05:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then: | 05:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~cssu | 05:06 |
| infobot | rumour has it, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) | 05:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then you're already good | 05:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then fun starts | 05:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/recommended.install | 05:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mandatory | 05:07 |
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| chatter | Allah is doing | 07:48 |
| gry | no | 07:49 |
| chatter | sun is not doing Allah is doing | 07:49 |
| chatter | moon is not doing Allah is doing | 07:49 |
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| L29Ah | o/ | 07:59 |
| KotCzarny | gry: did you manage to unpack it finally? :> | 07:59 |
| L29Ah | chatter: proof? | 07:59 |
| KotCzarny | L29Ah: 1/ its a spam bot, 2/ it was killed already | 08:00 |
| L29Ah | :( | 08:00 |
| L29Ah | what'd be a point for such a bot on freenode anyway? :D | 08:01 |
| KotCzarny | people are stupid, what can i say | 08:01 |
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| gry | KotCzarny, just got home and started eyeballing 'ncdu' output for / | 09:53 |
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| brolin_empey | KotCzarny: (PCI card with controller for IBM PC-style 5.25-inch flexible disc drive for use in post-Core 2-era desktop motherboard that no longer has a header to connect a flexible disc drive) Catweasel (sp?) may be an option if it is still available. It supports non-IBM-PC flexible disc formats but I do not remember if it supports IBM-PC-style flexible disc formats too. | 10:14 |
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| gry | KotCzarny, all extracted now. Is the VirtualBox hard drive space in addition to the extracted file, or it lives "inside" of it? Need to know as I don't want to run out of space again, if it needs extra. :) | 12:33 |
| KotCzarny | i havent tried, so dont really know, i prefer just my tiny chroots on arm7 hosts | 12:34 |
| gry | L29Ah, (you can get Sigyn kicked from here if you fancy talking with that person. But that would likely be a waste of effort.) | 12:35 |
| gry | KotCzarny, ok. :) Will try it out and face the impact. | 12:35 |
| KotCzarny | at least vm 'hard driver' are easy to add | 12:35 |
| KotCzarny | (you can even just have /home on usb stick or nfs ;) | 12:36 |
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| zGrr | moin ;) | 13:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | we won't kick sigyn | 14:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm happy she's around | 14:08 |
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| gry | DocScrutinizer05, that was an IF, not a request :) also good morning | 14:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, I prolly failed to parse that then. Please note I got an /ignore list in effect too | 14:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so context sometimes missing | 14:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but I see L29Ah | 14:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and morning to you as well | 14:52 |
| gry | aha | 14:52 |
| gry | thanks :) | 14:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also I doubt sigyn would kick gerself when somebody talks fabcy to her ;-D | 14:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ohmy my typing sucks | 14:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway when anybody actually wants to try talk to 'chatter' (or whatever nick that moron spammer picks next), I suggest just lingering in sifficient channels with >100 users and preferrably no sigyn in channel, and you will meet them sooner or later | 14:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | good luck with that! ;-D | 14:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you know, >>not you're talking, A@@ah is talking<< | 14:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and it's pretty hard to argue with scripts | 14:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | to prepare for such endeavor: http://paste.opensuse.org/69752500 | 15:03 |
| buZz | is 'gerself' one of those new genderneutral things? | 15:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hehe, yeah, that's why I used it err didn't fix the typo | 15:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ger : possesive pronoun [m/f, trans-g] | 15:18 |
| freemangordon_ | omg | 15:39 |
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| parazyd | any yappari users? | 16:19 |
| parazyd | does it work as intended? | 16:19 |
| bencoh | yappari does not work, as intended | 16:22 |
| Wizzup | not anymore | 16:23 |
| bencoh | it stopped working half a year ago because whatsapp required to use their new (secured) protocol, and they started banning 3rd-party apps so main developer eventually gave up | 16:24 |
| bencoh | iirc he pushed a voluntarily non-working version so that people wouldn't get banned trying | 16:24 |
| bencoh | I mean, a version that won't even try to connect | 16:24 |
| buZz | best whatsapp client is just spitting in the faces of ppl asking to add you on whatsapp ;) | 16:26 |
| buZz | imho ^_^ | 16:26 |
| Wizzup | ^ | 16:27 |
| buZz | or laughing insanely loud while walking away | 16:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, 2 billion farcebrick users can't be wrong, get on whatsap too and share your data with Suckerberg and the NSA | 16:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | FB is waaay worse than google meanwhile | 16:30 |
| bencoh | dunno who | 16:30 |
| bencoh | which* is worse, but ... | 16:30 |
| parazyd | shame | 16:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when whatsap got bought out by FB, they *romised* to never transfer or use the WA data in FB. That was like 6 months ago, now the German office for privacy in IT sues FB for doing exactly that | 16:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | *promised* even | 16:32 |
| buZz | they promised to never do it, and then took them 2-3 months before they actually -did- do it, while denying doing it | 16:34 |
| bencoh | s/6 months/2 years/ ? | 16:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | my ass what whatsap had as their core policies when they started. Like "we respect your privacy" and whatnot else bullshit, it almost sounded honest | 16:34 |
| buZz | popo respects you aswell when they arrest, fine and beat you up | 16:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Suckerberg, no typo in that | 16:37 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: to be fair, the actual data is very secure | 16:48 |
| kerio | cuz they got moxie to handle that | 16:48 |
| kerio | and i trust facebook to protect my data much more than my government | 16:49 |
| Wizzup | lol | 16:49 |
| kerio | because they make money off of it | 16:50 |
| Wizzup | they make money selling your data | 16:50 |
| Wizzup | how is that protecting your data | 16:50 |
| kerio | Wizzup: a friend of mine works in an ad company, he says that working with facebook is a pain | 16:50 |
| kerio | no no | 16:50 |
| kerio | they keep your data incredibly tight | 16:50 |
| Wizzup | haha | 16:50 |
| kerio | they sell aggregates, they sell even targeted ad space | 16:50 |
| kerio | but they don't give it out | 16:50 |
| kerio | they want to keep it | 16:50 |
| kerio | as much as possible | 16:50 |
| KotCzarny | and people buying it | 16:51 |
| kerio | it's a subtle difference | 16:51 |
| kerio | yeah | 16:51 |
| KotCzarny | and the cycle startes | 16:51 |
| KotCzarny | because other start to do the same | 16:51 |
| KotCzarny | then we have whole new economy classes in school | 16:51 |
| KotCzarny | (sponsored by .. etc) | 16:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah they keep it since it's 'theirs' - until the balck man of NSA drops by and leaves a letter they are not allowed to even mention they got one | 16:52 |
| kerio | i wonder if this would backfeed power https://www.amazon.it/dp/B016KNKRYY/ in a way that the n900 would appreciate | 16:52 |
| kerio | there's a switch for "charge/otg" | 16:53 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: doesn't facebook have a warrant canary? | 16:53 |
| KotCzarny | omg, thats the half price of the n900! | 16:53 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 16:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pfff | 16:53 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: idk man, i reckon that if your threat model includes the NSA you already fucking lost | 16:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I heard some companies who had did put it down, and they didn't want to talk about the reasons much | 16:54 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: yes, that's what a warrant canary does | 16:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | they promised however that it was for mere business reasons | 16:54 |
| kerio | rip canary :( | 16:55 |
| kerio | suuuuuuuure | 16:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so either they put it down and are not allowed to talk about it, or the *keep it* and are not allowed to talk about why they feel this would be the wiser decision | 16:55 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: the very fact that they put it down means what you think it means | 16:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aiui the idea is flawed | 16:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the whole canary is at best annoying | 16:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you can't tell anything from it either way | 16:58 |
| kerio | do i trust this 6€ microusb "magsafe" adapter | 16:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't even understand what that adapter does | 16:59 |
| kerio | it's the only one with an adapter instead of a cable | 16:59 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: no the one i linked is just a usb hub | 16:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, it looked like | 16:59 |
| kerio | 3 usb A ports, one microusb B plug and one microusb B port | 16:59 |
| kerio | with a "power" symbol on the port | 16:59 |
| kerio | and it's got a tiny switch between "power" and "otg" | 17:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hah | 17:00 |
| kerio | so i wonder if it would allow power backfeed on the n900 in boost mode | 17:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | should | 17:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | unless they do a D+/- short too | 17:00 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: that's even if there's backfeed protection in data mode | 17:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or wait. maybe "power" only means powered hub | 17:01 |
| kerio | no wait it says "charge"/"otg" | 17:01 |
| kerio | oh man i wish you knew italian | 17:02 |
| kerio | this product description is hilarious | 17:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then it might be a powered hub in OTG mode and feed uplink in charge mode | 17:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you'll have to test it to know for sure | 17:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and when you're lucky, you could modify it so it exactly meets your requirements | 17:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | my guess would be: in CHARGE mode the D lines of micro USB receptacle are connected to micro USB uplink plug. In OTH the receptacle powers the hub and the uplink data lines also feed the hub | 17:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/OTH/OTG/ | 17:07 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: my guess would be: in CHARGE mode the D lines of micro USB receptacle are connected to micro USB uplink plug. In OTG the receptacle powers the hub and the uplink data lines also feed the hub | 17:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | *maybe* in CHARGE the hub is still powered from the then-connected VBUS and also hooked up to the uplink D-lines | 17:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or you can modify it so it's like that | 17:08 |
| kerio | the fact that there's a switch is actually impressive | 17:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 17:09 |
| kerio | although i guess it's just for data | 17:09 |
| kerio | so you can use the hub on your phone while charging it from a computer | 17:09 |
| kerio | oh god can you imagine the mess that will happen when everything is usb c | 17:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but _worst_case_ CHARGE just means the hub turns into a charger with 4 outlets | 17:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P | 17:09 |
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| fishbulb | hey is the yappari dude here? | 18:09 |
| ceene | fishbulb: i only have two minutes | 18:12 |
| fishbulb | I've only ever used yappari | 18:14 |
| ceene | yappari has been dead for months now | 18:15 |
| fishbulb | I don't know how to transfer my number to whatsapp, becuase it asks to take a picture with your mobile device of a QR code | 18:15 |
| ceene | i don't think you have to do that much | 18:15 |
| ceene | just install whatsapp on an android/iphone | 18:15 |
| ceene | and let it do its thing | 18:15 |
| fishbulb | I only have a tablet | 18:15 |
| fishbulb | android tablet | 18:15 |
| ceene | same thing | 18:15 |
| ceene | it'll ask you for your mobile phone number | 18:15 |
| ceene | you give it to it | 18:15 |
| fishbulb | nexus, it asks me to take the photo of a qr code | 18:15 |
| ceene | what qr code? | 18:16 |
| fishbulb | it shows a qr code | 18:16 |
| ceene | i think you're trying to use web whatsapp? | 18:16 |
| fishbulb | and says to take a photo with it using your mobile device, but since yappari was never offficially whatsapp | 18:16 |
| ceene | you have to install whatsapp application | 18:16 |
| ceene | web whatsapp requires whatsapp application | 18:16 |
| ceene | in any case, that's more probably a question for #android or whatever | 18:17 |
| ceene | gotta go, sorry | 18:17 |
| fishbulb | this tablet has no sim | 18:17 |
| ceene | bye! | 18:17 |
| fishbulb | how do I get the chats and stuff that were in whatsapp | 18:17 |
| fishbulb | and numbers and contacts? are they on my n900 somewhere? this is my only "phone" | 18:18 |
| fishbulb | I mean yappari, how do I get that, or is it on whatsapp servers? I don't really get it | 18:18 |
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| bencoh | fishbulb: I think they're synced with whatsapp | 18:34 |
| fishbulb | how the hell do I get onto whatsapp with a wifi tablet | 18:37 |
| bencoh | I'm not sure it's supposed to work | 18:44 |
| bencoh | although it did work 1.5year ago | 18:44 |
| bencoh | (you had to provide a valid phone number, receive a confirmation text message there, and enter it in whatsapp) | 18:44 |
| fishbulb | do you mean with a tablet or with yappari? | 18:47 |
| fishbulb | it asks to scan a qr code | 18:51 |
| fishbulb | and I can't even open yappari with the n900 | 18:51 |
| bencoh | ... | 18:53 |
| bencoh | forget about yappari. | 18:53 |
| fishbulb | I have | 18:53 |
| fishbulb | but I can't put my number into whatsapp | 18:54 |
| fishbulb | I have a nexus wifi tablet and no other android devices | 18:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I think it's pretty obvious: insert SIM into an android phone (of a friend) create the barcode, take a photo with tablet, profit | 19:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | scratch the "profit" | 19:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | suffer | 19:49 |
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| freemangordon | Guys, anybody knows of TZ env var format on maemo that starts with TWO letters and the offset? | 23:43 |
| freemangordon | there is a static function in libtime called fix_tz() that takes tz in the ^^^ format and converts it to GMT+/-offset format | 23:44 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: ^^^ | 23:45 |
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