IRC log of #maemo for Sunday, 2016-11-13

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PaliKotCzarny: I hardcoded Maemo data into code: https://github.com/community-ssu/wl1251-cal/blob/master/wl1251-cal.c#L52400:09
Paliit is not so big...00:09
Palifirst time I used GNU join program :D00:11
Palihm... I cannot push new version of wl1251-cal to cssu-devel00:15
Pali"The RSA host key for maemo.merlin1991.at has changed"00:15
Palimerlin1991, freemangordon, RSA key was really changed?00:16
freemangordonPali: yes, merlin1991 has changed the server some time ago00:21
Paliok00:21
PaliI see that we have couple of packages non updated in cssu00:22
Palicssu-devel00:22
Palibut new versions are on github00:22
Paligoing to build them now00:22
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Palinew packages pushed to cssu-devel00:54
Palisee tmo thread about changes00:54
Palihttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1518605#post151860500:55
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Paliqt4 is still compiling...01:59
Palimore then hour...01:59
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freemangordonPali: on how many cores?02:04
Palidpkg-buildpackage02:04
Palino idea02:04
Paliscratchbox in qemu-system02:04
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parazydqemu is very slow with compiling02:10
parazydespecially when non-native02:10
freemangordongcc is native in SB afaik02:12
freemangordonit is just that qt is huge02:12
Paliqemu-system-x86_6402:12
Paliin which is running old ubuntu with chrotted scratchbox02:12
Paliin which is running arm cross compiler02:12
freemangordonPali: did you check if mce in cssu-devel matches github?02:13
Paliyes02:13
Palimatches02:13
freemangordonok. as I don;t remember if I pushed it02:13
freemangordonseems like yes02:13
Palifreemangordon: can you build new qt4 with thumb?02:14
Palimy non-thumb version for cssu-devel is still compiling...02:14
freemangordonPali: tomorrow02:22
Paliok02:22
freemangordonbut what to do with it after building?02:22
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Palinew version disable ssl2 which should have been disabled for years!03:16
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freemangordonjonwil: hi!09:31
jonwilhi09:31
freemangordonjonwil: feeling adventurous? https://github.com/community-ssu/iphbd :)09:34
freemangordontested on x86_64, seems working09:34
jonwilYeah I saw that g09:34
jonwilgood job :)09:34
jonwilWhats next? :)09:35
freemangordonbut without the kernel module, so09:35
freemangordonwell, this is all done in the context of porting ildon to gtk309:35
freemangordon*hildon09:35
freemangordonso it depends on what will be needed next09:35
jonwillibtime/clockd seem like useful targets (they are used all over the system by all sorts of things)09:36
freemangordonyeah, I was thinking about it09:37
jonwilsysinfod/libsysinfo/etc may also be worthwhile09:38
freemangordonyep09:38
jonwiloh and libplayback09:41
freemangordonhmm, only maemo kernel has iphb.ko, no such module in the other nokia kernels09:43
bencohis that supposed to wake apps in "sync" in order not to wake up cpu too much?09:55
freemangordonyes10:00
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jonwilStill getting nowhere with my entry for the maemo coding contest :(10:24
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parazydfreemangordon: isn't iphb a netfilter thing?12:02
parazydfreemangordon: i have the source for it if needed btw12:04
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jonwilsource to what? The source for the kernel module is in the standard Maemo kernel source, the source to libiphb was originally released by Nokia in a Git repo and the source for iphbd was reverse engineered by freemangordon (and along with libiphb now lives in https://github.com/community-ssu/iphbd)12:33
jonwilIts always good when another entry in the table on http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages turns to green because someone reverse engineered another package :)12:36
jonwilI just wish there was more I could reverse engineer12:37
jonwiland help turn table entries green via FOSS clones12:37
bencoh:)12:38
jonwilI think there are many entries in that table that will never turn green though12:40
jonwilcsd-* for example12:41
jonwilor pulseaudio-module-nokia-*12:44
jonwilwell pulseaudio-module-nokia-voice12:44
jonwilor rtcom-call-ui12:44
jonwilor tablet-browser-*12:44
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parazydwell in due time :)12:46
parazydthings are moving well12:46
jonwilI dont think there is anyone out there with both the skills AND the time/interest to reverse engineer the really tricky stuff (pulseaudio-module-nokia-voice being right up there)12:47
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jonwilShort of a miracle occurring and the code falling out of the sky or something, I doubt we will ever have a fully reverse engineered clone of pulseaudio-module-nokia-voice12:48
jonwilWhich is a pitty since its one of the key pieces needed to get Maemo working on the Neo900...12:48
bencohpretty sure it can do without12:49
jonwilTrust me, it cant12:49
jonwilI have been deep inside pulseuaudio-module-nokia-voice and the Maemo audio system in general and I can tell you its going to be needed (or at least some of what it does is needed) if we want usable audio on the thing with Maemo12:50
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* jonwil wishes he could make progress on his entry for the Maemo coding contest... :(13:14
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Palifreemangordon: iphb.ko for dkms is ready: https://github.com/community-ssu/iphb-dkms13:37
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freemangordonPali: I ported the driver for newer kernel, unfortunately it crashes both 3.16 and 4.4 :(14:06
freemangordonPali: ali, I think dkms should be included in iphb14:07
freemangordon*also14:07
freemangordonhowever, lets ckech those oopses14:07
freemangordon*check14:07
Palidid you tried that my pushed version?14:08
freemangordonno14:08
Paliso use it14:08
PaliI ported some functions14:08
freemangordonhmm14:08
freemangordonok14:08
Palithere are #ifdefs for 3.13 and 4.1 kernels14:08
freemangordonsame here14:08
freemangordonbut, you use the one from 2.6.3214:09
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Paliyes, from 2.6.3214:09
Palibut there are only minimal changes14:10
Paliplus it containd kernel-power null deref fix14:10
freemangordonyes, I have that fix here as well14:11
freemangordonand yes, the changes are minimal14:11
freemangordonPali: gimme some time to gather the oops backtrace14:11
Paliok14:11
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jonwilI wish my skills allowed me to contribute more to the N900 community.14:30
jon_yport USB type-C drivers to maeomo :)14:30
jonwilBut what I have contributed to date certainly isn't useless14:30
jonwilAnd I dont know the first thing about USB or writing kernel drivers14:30
jon_yeh, its just plain C code14:30
jon_yyou just need to trace the code14:31
jon_yand see how it works underneath14:31
jonwilI know enough about kernel drivers to know that I dont know enough about kernel drivers to even think about trying to write one14:31
jonwilOr port one to a different kernel14:31
jonwilOr even try to understand what one is doing14:31
jonwilIts hard enough to understand when userspace bits are talking to kernel drivers (like all the stuff I had to do for the MCE reverse engineering work)14:32
jon_ychar device node?14:32
jonwilanyhow, anything involving kernel hacking is not on my radar screen14:33
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jon_ywhat other pointless porting work can be done :)14:34
jon_ySATA drivers for maemo :)14:35
jonwilNot interested in anything kernel related or driver related or hardware related14:36
jonwilI keep looking at http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages and wishing there was something left on that list that I could reverse engineer14:37
jonwilbut all the good stuff is too hard :(14:37
jon_yNFC drivers for Maemo!14:38
jon_ynot that the drivers will be useful14:38
jonwilstop talking about hardware or kernel stuff :P14:38
jon_yk, port JACK audio to maemo :)14:39
jonwilstop taking about useless ports as well :P14:39
Palijonwil: alsaped?14:39
jon_yhmm, not sure if Maemo would benefit from zram14:39
jonwillooked into that, its too complex for me to tackle14:39
KotCzarnyisnt zram almost free with mainline?14:40
jon_ydoes it work with powerkernel?14:40
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jon_yI wonder how hard is it to hack the N900 firmware14:42
KotCzarnybecause ugly closed binary code14:43
freemangordonPali: hmm, actually my ko seems to work fine with 3.1614:45
jon_yhmm does Linphone work on the N900?14:45
jon_ysip with SRTP/ZRTP encrypted channels14:46
freemangordonthe oopses wew because I put some msleep() calls14:46
jon_ymight be too heavy for N90014:46
freemangordon*were14:46
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freemangordonPali: BTW, I don;t think iphb from harmattan wil work with maemo's iphbd14:46
Palireally?14:46
Paliipbh.ko from 2.6.32 kernel will not work with maemo iphbd?14:47
freemangordonI think so14:47
freemangordonthat timer, why it is there?14:47
freemangordoniiuc it is iphbd that have to flush keepalives14:47
freemangordon*has14:48
brolin_empeyjoga: auenf: KotCzarny: IE11 on Win10 continues playing audio after Windows turns off the computer’s displays after an inactivity timeout.  So yes, the unwanted behaviour about which I asked was caused by Edge, not by Windows.14:54
KotCzarnywhat sane person uses win10?14:55
freemangordonPali: do you have kernel newer than 3.16 to test iphb.ko with?14:56
brolin_empeyKotCzarny: I use WIA or TWAIN, not SANE. ;-)14:56
PaliI'm using 3.1314:56
freemangordonhmm14:56
PaliLTS ubuntu 12.0414:56
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freemangordonwell, I meant some VM14:57
freemangordonas it has crashed my 4.4 so it is better to not play in native OS14:58
Paliok15:00
jon_ydo you guys play with bleeding edge kernels?15:02
freemangordonPali: https://github.com/community-ssu/iphbd/tree/master/kmod15:04
Palihttps://gitorious.org/meego-middleware/dsme/commit/735a5f058e082ff63e3cf65579def48b157b670515:09
Palimaybe this commit can be interesting...15:09
Palifirst public version of iphb15:09
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Palianyway, also after certman update, I cannot connect to gmail imap server due to unknown certificate with bad signature15:10
Palijonwil: ^^^15:10
freemangordonPali: I used part of the code there, but it is not the same as the one in Fremantle15:10
Paliok15:11
freemangordonthat one uses epoll, maemo uses poll15:11
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freemangordonPali: kernel 4.4 http://pastebin.com/u3dcJZLA15:17
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Palifreemangordon: gdb iphb.ko15:34
Paliand look at flush_keepalives+0x143/0x22015:34
freemangordonPali: no symbols :(15:37
freemangordonhow to build it with debug info?15:37
freemangordonhmm, found it how15:38
Palifreemangordon: KCFLAGS=-g15:39
Pali$ make -C /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-101-generic/ M=$PWD KCFLAGS=-g15:39
Palijust recompile and run:15:40
Pali$ gdb iphb.ko15:40
Palidisassemble /m flush_keepalives+0x143/0x22015:40
freemangordonPali: I modified Makefile to include debug symbols, unfortunately, there is no such address (0x143) in the disassembly15:44
freemangordonwill try with ida15:44
freemangordonPali: https://github.com/community-ssu/iphbd/blob/master/kmod/iphb.c#L17415:47
freemangordonas I expected :)15:47
freemangordonseems I can't store  nf_hook_state, I guess I have to keep the data, lemme try15:49
freemangordonlooks better that way :)15:58
freemangordonPali: what do you think? https://github.com/community-ssu/iphbd/commit/5c02e268587b50a1039e7d9e1dd65543efd3769d15:59
freemangordoncrashes no more my ubuntu 14.04 with kernel 4.416:00
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xesdo we have any kind of draft / project for an emergency mode for our N900, something like a boot option to boot the N900 and start only the phone-ui instead of the whole maemo desktop... It would be interesting since if you need to place an emergency phone call and the N900 is turned off sometimes it may needs more than 5 minutes to be ready16:13
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KotCzarnyxes: neat idea, could be work as a recovery os too16:25
KotCzarny*could work16:25
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KotCzarnycase of dying wlans ta doo doom16:40
KotCzarnyopps. wrong chan16:40
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freemangordon1Pali: what about merging iphb-dkms with iphbd?17:01
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Paliiphb-dkms is not needed in cssu/maemo kernel17:02
freemangordonis there a reason to keep ko split from the daemon?17:02
Paliso I guess it would be better to have them separated17:02
freemangordonwell, I guess we can check during buildtime17:02
Paliwe do not want iphb-dkms in cssu repository17:02
freemangordonand not install dkms/ko part if building on <3.x kernel17:03
Paliyou cannot (easily) change list of deb packages produced by debian source package17:03
Palilist of deb packages is static and not changed by building process (debian/rules)...17:03
freemangordonwell, but then iphbd should depend on iphb-dkms, so isn't that the same?17:04
Paliiphbd should depends on some virtual/meta package17:04
freemangordonhmm, right17:04
Paliwhich is provided by both iphb-dkms and also by stock kernel17:04
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Palibut that is hard in maemo, because stock kernel does not do that17:04
PaliI would rather do not depends on any such package...17:05
freemangordonwhat about kernel-feature?17:05
Palionce we will have something working on debian/devuan/... we can add recomended dependency17:05
freemangordonkernel-feature-something || iphb-dkms17:05
freemangordonok17:06
freemangordongoing to move iphb from the daemon to iphb-dkms17:06
freemangordonPali: shell i include -g in the Makefile?17:07
Palino17:08
freemangordonok17:08
Palithat is big hack17:08
freemangordonok17:08
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freemangordonPali: shall I keep the timed flush?17:14
freemangordonfrom the harm kernel?17:14
Palimaybe keep it for now17:23
freemangordonok17:23
Paliwhen we find out that is cause really problems, we can delete it17:23
freemangordonok17:23
freemangordonbut I'll remove(#if 0) the read, as fremantle iphbd doesn;t read on the kernel fd.17:24
PaliI think no need...17:25
freemangordonthere is, see https://github.com/community-ssu/iphb-dkms/blob/master/iphb.c#L24617:25
Paliand it is problem?17:26
PaliI think not, just it is not called...17:26
freemangordonin fremantle this is done in iphbd_poll17:26
Paliah, right17:27
Paliit is really in iphbd_poll and harmattan kernel removed it17:27
freemangordon:nod:17:27
freemangordonI guess we can keep both17:28
Paliok17:28
freemangordonbut better #if the read code17:28
Paliread code seems ok17:28
Paliif it is not used, then nothing is called17:28
freemangordonok, will keep it17:29
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freemangordonPali: https://github.com/community-ssu/iphb-dkms/commit/37d8be993bf23ebcd4a72f5cd128f587181b327f18:09
Paliwhy UTS_RELEASE?18:09
PaliI removed that crap...18:10
freemangordon:)18:10
freemangordonwell, this is in fremantle18:10
freemangordonPali: feel free to remove it again, I wouldn;t mind18:11
Pali#if LINUX_VERSION_CODE < KERNEL_VERSION(2, 6, 29)18:11
Palithats look wrong...18:11
freemangordonI couldn;t find at which kernel version that header was moved, thus...18:11
Paliso you break it on my kernel too :-)18:12
freemangordonwait, why?18:12
Palibeacuse THIS_MODULE is needed18:12
freemangordonaah, you mean for the hooks18:13
freemangordonyeah, sorry, copy/paste error, going to fix it18:13
Pali-const struct net_device *indev,18:14
Pali+const struct net_device *in,18:14
Palireason?18:14
Paliit is hard to read that diff18:15
Palicouple of noop changes18:15
freemangordonfor name consistency18:15
Pali#include <generated/utsrelease.h>18:16
Pali??18:17
Palithis looks really bad18:17
freemangordonneeded for UTS_RELEASE ;)18:17
freemangordonhmm, seems owner disappears in 4.418:17
Palilinux/vermagic.h if you really need it18:17
Paliideally do not mix 10 different things into one commit18:18
freemangordonPali: well, I don;t need it, it is just that the code was like that, feel free to remove it18:18
freemangordonPali:18:18
PaliI already removed it18:18
Palibut you reverted my remove :-)18:18
freemangordonit is not LKML :p18:19
freemangordonok, will reintroduce it18:19
Paliwell.... I can fix it18:19
freemangordonPali: lemme first push THIS_MODULE fix18:20
Palithat is incomplete too... okfn usage, etc...18:22
freemangordonready18:23
freemangordonwhich line?18:23
freemangordonokfn usage should be correct18:23
freemangordonI tested on 3.16 and 4.418:24
PaliI will fix it...18:24
freemangordonwhich one?18:24
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Paliwill create new branch and fix it here18:24
freemangordonPali: please, explain what are you going to fix. also, why new branch?18:25
Palito prevent push conflicts18:25
Paliin master18:25
Palifix - okfn usage18:26
freemangordonI pushed everything I have18:26
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Palifreemangordon: https://github.com/community-ssu/iphb-dkms/commits/pali19:12
PaliI check that kernel versions against git kernel history19:12
Palithis should be correct19:13
freemangordonPali: why not merge it with master?19:31
Palibecause now there are conflics :D19:32
PaliI started earlier as you pushed changes19:32
PaliI can (only) force push it into master...19:33
freemangordonwhatever is needed, I don;t see why we need branch "pali" :)19:34
Palirecheck if it is working19:34
Paliand I can force push it to master19:34
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DocScrutinizer05xes: FIVE minutes?21:08
DocScrutinizer05never seen that21:08
DocScrutinizer05when you got device lock, you can do 911 calls instead of enetring the unlock code. This is about as early as it gets21:09
DocScrutinizer05xes: an alternative was to send "ATD911;" to modem (via ISI - *UGH* hardly feasible) from uBoot menu21:11
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freemangordonPali: make KERNELRELEASE=4.4.0-47-generic -C /lib/modules/4.4.0-47-generic/build M=/var/lib/dkms/iphb/1.0/build....(bad exit status: 2)22:37
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Paliwhat is in log?22:45
freemangordon /var/lib/dkms/iphb/1.0/build/iphb.c:396:24: error: ‘const struct nf_hook_state’ has no member named ‘net’22:45
freemangordonPali: DKMSKernelVersion: 4.2.0-38-generic22:48
freemangordonhttp://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/include/linux/netfilter.h?v=4.2 - no net there22:50
freemangordonit appears in 4.422:50
freemangordonPali: are you going to fix it or I to fix it?22:50
freemangordonhmm, something is weird here22:52
xesDocScrutinizer05: how much time do your N900 takes to go from power off to have the dialer ready to place a call?22:53
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DocScrutinizer05like maybe 90s, I never even tried since I don't know when the dialer is "ready"22:54
jonwilhi22:54
DocScrutinizer05might be 6022:54
DocScrutinizer05yeah, desktop is up after 45s, probably usable after 60 - though on this particular device all icons (cache) are broken23:00
freemangordonPali: sorry, I gave you wrong log, this one is correct http://pastebin.com/j4Yv3Kwc23:02
freemangordonanyway, I am going to fix that23:02
xesDocScrutinizer05: my device is probably overloaded... but i can open the phone ui after 4 minutes.. then the system becomes reactive after > 5 minutes23:03
DocScrutinizer05that's weird23:03
freemangordonPali: https://github.com/community-ssu/iphb-dkms/commit/3bc377199a3df5be22d39f667f666a3d26ee3a7923:11
freemangordonlets see if it still works23:12
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freemangordonPali: seems to work ok, please push to master23:32
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